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  • #681
  • Edited Nov 2, 2009 2:07am Nov 1, 2009 7:27pm | Edited Nov 2, 2009 2:07am
Thanks Ozzie Taz, it works now as you told.
Also thanks to tradingviper in particular and all others who contributed towards development of this EA.
Lets see how it goes. Happy pipping.
  • #682
  • Nov 1, 2009 10:43pm Nov 1, 2009 10:43pm
Thanks guys it is working now
  • #683
  • Nov 1, 2009 10:56pm Nov 1, 2009 10:56pm
small Q

If i have a balance of 200.000 USD

Is it going to start with (0.01) ? if yes then how can i change this ?
  • #684
  • Nov 2, 2009 12:48am Nov 2, 2009 12:48am
Quoting at the best
small Q

If i have a balance of 200.000 USD

Is it going to start with (0.01) ? if yes then how can i change this ?
There are two ways to start with position sizes greater than the min allowed by your broker. You can set MinLotSize or PercentToRisk. Just be careful. You want to under trade this strategy to avoid the Death Trade as long as possible.

Viper
  • #685
  • Edited 6:32am Nov 2, 2009 4:52am | Edited 6:32am
Hi Viper.

I ran v2.3 as a multi grid. The first grid i used 0.02 as min lot size. For the other grid i used the default settings (0.01). The first grid closed but did not delete the associated pending orders and so there was no restart.

Also ran v2.3 alone on another pair using min lot size as 0.02. Closed sequence, deleted pending orders and started new sequence as expected.

Seems to be some conflict when using it as multi grid which prevented it from deleting the pendings?
bull in a china shop
  • #686
  • Edited 9:20am Nov 2, 2009 8:48am | Edited 9:20am
Quoting tradingviper
This is MUCH better because it opens positions slower (due to the bug fix). mgrid (almost) always opened three positions (b1,b2,b3) everytime because of an error in the way it calculated the resulting new profit. The correctly behaving code will often only open new positions at the b3/s3 level.This actually reduces whipsaws considerably and reduces the Death Trade frequency. It is a little like ForexSaints suggestion to mitigate the Death Trade.
Hello TViper. Thanks for the hard work once again.
But sorry for queries...
1) i would like you to kindly explain how have you applied that mitigation idea/or similar idea......? To be frank, when so many whipswas have happened its really not easy to understand whats goin on till one knows whats its supposed to do(or if markets are really slow). Giving an example will be a saver, about how it involves it.
2) You talked abt b3/s3 levels. what about if levels=2 settings is used?
3) I am interested to know , what pair,increment and level you mainly tried with this new mitigation strategy for 2 weeks. You said it significantly reduces whipsaws..did u reach any death trade during this testing?
4) whats the status of the 2 water level strategies...are they still valid and will work?

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Again, I set the input parameters to work like mgrid (new features off), but it will still work a little differently now - due to the mgrid bug fixes.
By "new features off" do you mean all features added in v2.2 like not work? though i can they work. tried some bit here and there.

Best Regards



EDIT : just saw what b3/s3 means..may be.. you seem to have applied it from first whipsaw level itself..is it? (which itself seems to be a unique idea but may cause hyper congestion of orders at extremeties)! Still would like to know in your words.
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  • #687
  • Edited 9:56am Nov 2, 2009 9:35am | Edited 9:56am
Quoting plasmapants
Hi Viper.

I ran v2.3 as a multi grid. The first grid i used 0.02 as min lot size. For the other grid i used the default settings (0.01). The first grid closed but did not delete the associated pending orders and so there was no restart.

Also ran v2.3 alone on another pair using min lot size as 0.02. Closed sequence, deleted pending orders and started new sequence as expected.

Seems to be some conflict when using it as multi grid which prevented it from deleting the pendings?

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Just completed testing with several closes todays.

The math is great. I'll leave to Viper to explain in detail but in layman terms every closed set closed in profit.

The only bug i've found is that when you set the min lot size to other than default and a sequence closes, it does not delete the coresponding pending orders. Its placing the orders fine.
bull in a china shop
  • #688
  • Nov 2, 2009 9:55am Nov 2, 2009 9:55am
Quoting plasmapants
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Just completed testing with several closes todays.

The math is great. I'll leave to Viper to explain in detail but in layman terms every closed set closed in profit.

The only bug i've found is that when you set the min lot size to other than default and a sequence closes, it does not delete the coresponding pending orders.
I tested many many sets with all different lot sizes and never had a problem in back testing or forward testing. I did only test with GU, but I can't imagine how the pair would make a difference. Which pair were you using ? I have noticed that sometimes it takes a while to close, but I think that is a broker/platform issue.

I will continue to test...
Viper
  • #689
  • Nov 2, 2009 10:06am Nov 2, 2009 10:06am
Quoting forexsaint
Hello TViper. Thanks for the hard work once again.
But sorry for...
Hi Saint,
I mostly tested using 3 levels and increment = 15. I used a small increment on purpose to get thru multiple sets more quickly. No I never hit the Death Trade. The point of the "new math" (mgrid bug fixes) is that it starts at the outer level (whether that be 4, 3, or 2 or whatever) and only places orders at the levels needed to keep the target profit. So if I don't need to place a new order at level 1, I don't. Without the unneeded orders at level 1, there is less chance of the market hitting that and triggering a new wave of orders. By new features I mean vgrid features that weren't there in mgrid. Yes they are still there and slightly enhanced but that part has NOT been tested extensively so I did not want to advertise it. The low water mark now simply lowers the desired profit in steps instead of jumping to breakeven immediately, so it will lessen orders but still profit - again NOT tested fully.

Hope that helps :-)
Viper
  • #690
  • Nov 2, 2009 10:47am Nov 2, 2009 10:47am
Quoting tradingviper
I tested many many sets with all different lot sizes and never had a problem in back testing or forward testing. I did only test with GU, but I can't imagine how the pair would make a difference. Which pair were you using ? I have noticed that sometimes it takes a while to close, but I think that is a broker/platform issue.

I will continue to test...
Viper

I ran it on gu and ey with 22 pip increment. min lot size 0.02. on the last close it had hung for atleast 15 minutes before i started closing the pending manually.

doesn't look like broker issue because it does allow me to close them manually. usually with broker sometimes it can take a long time to delete if you have too many pendings. but here the process does not seem to get started.
bull in a china shop
  • #691
  • Nov 2, 2009 2:05pm Nov 2, 2009 2:05pm
Got a close on e/y (live), using default lot size. Same problem with not deleting pending orders. I waited about an hour just to see if it would make a start. Earlier this morning i got a close using default lot settings and it seemed to work fine. Wierd.

Anyone else having the same trouble or is it just me?

I'm running on alpari servers.
bull in a china shop
  • #692
  • Nov 2, 2009 3:04pm Nov 2, 2009 3:04pm
Quoting plasmapants
Got a close on e/y (live), using default lot size. Same problem with not deleting pending orders. I waited about an hour just to see if it would make a start. Earlier this morning i got a close using default lot settings and it seemed to work fine. Wierd.

Anyone else having the same trouble or is it just me?

I'm running on alpari servers.
Same problem here with manual input lot size 0.01 on FXDD demo.
  • #693
  • Edited 5:43am Nov 3, 2009 3:33am | Edited 5:43am
Hey Viper,

If you run a just single instance of v2.3 it works fine and completes the sequence, deletes pendings, restarts.

If you run more than 1 instance either on the the same pair or on different pairs at the same time, then it fails to delete pendings on set completion.


Desi: were you running more than one grid when you had the problem?
bull in a china shop
  • #694
  • Nov 3, 2009 8:58am Nov 3, 2009 8:58am
Hey guys, I can't get the EA to attach to my charts. I've restarted twice and I've installed the OrderReady file, and other EA's load up no problem. Any ideas?...
" Average traders look to the left, great traders look to the right."
  • #695
  • Nov 3, 2009 10:57am Nov 3, 2009 10:57am
Quoting plasmapants
Hey Viper,
Desi: were you running more than one grid when you had the problem?
By grid if you mean levels, then I am using 3 levels. Thanks.
  • #696
  • Nov 3, 2009 10:59am Nov 3, 2009 10:59am
Quoting magicchance
Hey guys, I can't get the EA to attach to my charts. I've restarted twice and I've installed the OrderReady file, and other EA's load up no problem. Any ideas?...
Compile the EA, ignore any warnings and you should be able to attach it. Good luck.
  • #697
  • Nov 3, 2009 11:33am Nov 3, 2009 11:33am
That did the trick! Thanks a lot!
" Average traders look to the left, great traders look to the right."
  • #698
  • Nov 3, 2009 11:37am Nov 3, 2009 11:37am
Tradingviper, many thanks for all your time on this. I'm currently on contract with a programmer who's building a custom indic for me, so I know first hand how time consuming these things can be.

Sorry if this has been asked/answered before, but does this EA operate in stealth mode, and if not can it be made that way?
" Average traders look to the left, great traders look to the right."
  • #699
  • Nov 3, 2009 11:47am Nov 3, 2009 11:47am
Quoting plasmapants
Got a close on e/y (live), using default lot size. Same problem with not deleting pending orders. I waited about an hour just to see if it would make a start. Earlier this morning i got a close using default lot settings and it seemed to work fine. Wierd.

Anyone else having the same trouble or is it just me?

I'm running on alpari servers.
Hey Guys,

I made a beginner type error... I found it this morning. It looks like it will not close pending orders on JPY pairs. If it doesn't close them it will not start a new set. I did all my testing with GBPUSD.

The code uses the grids initial price in the comment to decide if any orders from the set have been closed and if so, close/delete everything remaining. Unfortunately, like a moron, I only considered one price format n.nnnn. Of course, JPY pairs do not conform to this.

Try it with non JPY pairs and it should work fine, even with multi grids (as long as the magic number is different for each.

I started making changes to vGrid which I will need for vMultiGrid. One of those changes is to NOT use initial price as the set's unique key. I am changing it to use the start date-time. That way it will always be unique, even if it starts at the same price. I wasn't going to release this intermediate product, but in light of the bug, I will.

Sorry about the inferior product delivery... vgrid2.4 on the way soon :-)
Viper
  • #700
  • Nov 3, 2009 11:57am Nov 3, 2009 11:57am
Quoting magicchance
Tradingviper, many thanks for all your time on this. I'm currently on contract with a programmer who's building a custom indic for me, so I know first hand how time consuming these things can be.

Sorry if this has been asked/answered before, but does this EA operate in stealth mode, and if not can it be made that way?
You're welcome. No it does not currently work in stealth mode. Yes it could be made to. I had not really considered it and don't think it is needed because our stops in one direction is the takeprofit in the other. So movement is all we need. If the broker artificially forces the price to hit your stops, he probably did you a favor. You should close everything for a profit. Is there a way to lure your broker into doing that for you everytime ? You'll be VERY rich ;-)

The only pitfall is if he rapes you on the spread. You will still close everything but your profit may be diminished. Then you start another set and live to trade another day. :-)
Viper
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