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  • #5,461
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:18am Oct 22, 2009 9:18am
Quoting Joe GX
And Sanmiguel

Chik trend line break are actually current trent line line breaks - it is not predictive any more han a trend line break is - sorry to dissappoint
Of course they are. I could draw the same trendline on the actual candles. It doesn't make it any less valid.
...in the same way that some parts of the kumo represent the same line I could draw by hand using plain old vanilla SR.
  • #5,462
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:34am Oct 22, 2009 9:34am
Quoting Joe GX
And I also appreciate the trade ideas you put up but I personally do consider them more a gamble than a trade. Trendline stuff is always such.
Again I reiterate: I cannot believe how powerful the strong signal is and every time I see it posted - particularly on the 1/2h or or 1 hour time charts I am completely flabergasted cause I have not trade it yet but I simply watch it in awe. It is not a maybe it is a dead certainty that price will move in the direction indicated and you might as well ""Load UP".
Hi Kevin
I know one of your criticism of the original trading techniques is you need to stay glued to the screen but with a couple of good trained eyes we could have the best post trade idea setup ever - and with guys sinner and abw on board you would have a subscribable thread. send a text and all on board - it's a really cool idea but could any one of us handle the pressure?
  • #5,463
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:36am Oct 22, 2009 9:36am
Quoting SanMiguel
Of course they are. I could draw the same trendline on the actual candles. It doesn't make it any less valid.
...in the same way that some parts of the kumo represent the same line I could draw by hand using plain old vanilla SR.
So why do you post it like it's frickin gospil
  • #5,464
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:38am Oct 22, 2009 9:38am
hi steve
daily is bearish , and we have resitence at ks on daily not so far . i wouldnt go long for this pair now , and mostly after golfer opened our eyes on the possibility of shorting it soon .
regards

Quoting stevewide
Any thoughts on Ucad long? Its a fresh 1h cross with 4h support breaking kumo and bouncing slowly off ts after flat ks held. The only thing I don't like is the 1h ks now turning down.

Our of respect for GI's rough but straight talking request let's see if we can figure out some trades beforehand.

Steve
  • #5,465
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:39am Oct 22, 2009 9:39am
Could we just please move on? This a good thread and let's not waste it.

If you don't want to see the opinion of others, please there is an "ignore" function. I personally use it so I wouldn't see post of some people.

I still use Ichi but it is not my main trading system anymore. I trade based on my charts and don't care about the charts of others. Don't get me wrong I respect their opinion but in the end I am the one who decides if I will take the trade and I don't get angry if people take bad trades, it's the best way to learn.

Kevin, you're the one who started the first Ichi thread here at FF and the fact that you are still here in the business says a lot.
  • #5,466
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:48am Oct 22, 2009 9:48am
Quoting red01
Could we just please move on? This a good thread and let's not waste it.

If you don't want to see the opinion of others, please there is an "ignore" function. I personally use it so I wouldn't see post of some people.

I still use Ichi but it is not my main trading system anymore. I trade based on my charts and don't care about the charts of others. Don't get me wrong I respect their opinion but in the end I am the one who decides if I will take the trade and I don't get angry if people take bad trades, it's the best way to learn.

Kevin,...
Move On?
No such frickin thing buddy - I respect Kevins S/R ideas but I think ichy is a rule above. If you want to post S/R ideas go to another site. Ichy has a particular set of curly worms that say buy or sell and if you don't understand them then frickk off. Read paGE 1 READ PAGE 1 READ PAGE1 IT ROCKS. aND IF YOU DON'T ICHI AS YOUR MAIN TRADING SYSTEM ANYMORE THEN FUCK OFF
  • #5,467
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:49am Oct 22, 2009 9:49am
Quoting Joe GX
So why do you post it like it's frickin gospil
Dude, when did I say it was gospel? I posted a trade idea based on the 1hr EURUSD and position of the kumo with some extra factors. All the other rules are still in place as per page 1 and as many of the warriors have talked about, retests of the Ks, close above the Ts, etc.
Did you get out of bed on the wrong side today or something?
  • #5,468
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:50am Oct 22, 2009 9:50am
Quoting samer960
hi my friend
i would like to say sometihng about the cross on MTF and the retrace to KS . witch in my opinion get u in the same place and shouldnt make u feel it is new and different from the way vic explained at the begining of the thread .
please look at the chart attached and open an EU CHART on 4 h . look where the cross happen on h4
options u have :
1- would u go long at this cross , if yes u would go for a huge DD OF 90 PIP if not slightly more.
2- go to look for m15 let s say or m5 to look for a cross to confirm your entry long , fine...
Samer,
Thanks my friend! I learn from you all the time. Never be shy about telling me stuff, I don't take offense and it often keeps me in check!

Besides, you are very correct!

Mike
  • #5,469
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:51am Oct 22, 2009 9:51am
Quoting Joe GX
But you are not trading ichi anymore. It's all just s/r now and pn bars and you will fail. Go back and read page 1 all of you - Including Vic. Kevins trades are great in the current environment (particularly E/U & nz/U but i have had plenty of failure using his techniques.
A question to vic and sinner
Last night at 5.00pm approx Eastern Australia Time the E/G posted the strong sell signal on the 1 h chart as articulated on page 1 of this thread. Vic lost pips (cause he was already long) and dollars we are to presume .Sinner did not. Sinner trades...

I quite agree with you. Ichi is simple and straight forward and completely stress free. In my own case I have traded almost all pairs using all the strategies on 4hrs and daily chart except kumo cross. The result have been impressive above 90% success. I strongly believe with proper money management there is no way you will not double your account. Just allow Ichi to tell you when to get in and out. Look at the trade i entered and still running As at this post 858 pips on gbp/jpy waiting for ts/ks cross to exit. Then eur/aud just exited not quite long at ts/ks cross with 315 pips.
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  • #5,470
  • Oct 22, 2009 10:09am Oct 22, 2009 10:09am
Quoting samer960
hi steve
daily is bearish , and we have resitence at ks on daily not so far . i wouldnt go long for this pair now , and mostly after golfer opened our eyes on the possibility of shorting it soon .
regards
Thanks Samer.
S
  • #5,471
  • Oct 22, 2009 10:12am Oct 22, 2009 10:12am
Quoting stevewide
Any thoughts on Ucad long? Its a fresh 1h cross with 4h support breaking kumo and bouncing slowly off ts after flat ks held. The only thing I don't like is the 1h ks now turning down.

Our of respect for GI's rough but straight talking request let's see if we can figure out some trades beforehand.

Steve
Sorry I didn't see this tread on time though I saw the trade but did't get in because of the ks turning down. Its unusual. Right now the price dropped below straight into the cloud. for those whose stops is just some pips below ks that's a lost trade. For those whose stops are below the kumo well ???
  • #5,472
  • Oct 22, 2009 10:16am Oct 22, 2009 10:16am
Quoting philipo
Sorry I didn't see this tread on time though I saw the trade but did't get in because of the ks turning down. Its unusual. Right now the price dropped below straight into the cloud. for those whose stops is just some pips below ks that's a lost trade. For those whose stops are below the kumo well ???
They had bad news anyway. I won't trade around the news unless I have a long term position open, I just manage it at that point.

Your previous post was very nice. First class trading.
  • #5,473
  • Oct 22, 2009 11:05am Oct 22, 2009 11:05am
Quoting SanMiguel
Any feelings on EU at the moment?
If the 1hr closes above the Ts and the Cs trenline breaks, I may go long.
Note also, if you draw an uptrendline on the CS here, you see a price bounce.
So, anyway, thoughts on this one?
It also happens to be a 4hr Ks bounce.
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...3&d=1256208659
  • #5,474
  • Oct 22, 2009 11:21am Oct 22, 2009 11:21am
hi sanmiguel
obviously we are in up trend so getting in means u are in the good train heading north .
but in order not to suffer any drawdown , it is better to wait for a confirmations from a lower time frame and go for it .
we might revisit the suport at 14950 before going up again and even a lower support thats why i would wait for a confirmation from a lower time frame witch i don't see it at the moment .
all this said , maybe it will fly from here, nobody knows , it just a matter to put the probability of being right on our side , thats why waiting is better and getting a cheaper price would certainly be my choice
ah and by the way the bounce on h4 was 50 pip away from current price
hope this help
regards

Quoting SanMiguel
So, anyway, thoughts on this one?
It also happens to be a 4hr Ks bounce.
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...3&d=1256208659
  • #5,475
  • Oct 22, 2009 11:26am Oct 22, 2009 11:26am
Quoting philipo
I quite agree with you. Ichi is simple and straight forward and completely stress free. In my own case I have traded almost all pairs using all the strategies on 4hrs and daily chart except kumo cross. The result have been impressive above 90% success. I strongly believe with proper money management there is no way you will not double your account. Just allow Ichi to tell you when to get in and out. Look at the trade i entered and still running As at this post 858 pips on gbp/jpy waiting for ts/ks cross to exit. Then eur/aud just exited not quite...
Nice Trades philipo,

Thanks for the post.
fxScavenger Arrogance is just Ignorance misspelled. abso-PIPn-lutely
  • #5,476
  • Oct 22, 2009 12:05pm Oct 22, 2009 12:05pm
Quoting samer960
hi sanmiguel
obviously we are in up trend so getting in means u are in the good train heading north .
but in order not to suffer any drawdown , it is better to wait for a confirmations from a lower time frame and go for it .
we might revisit the suport at 14950 before going up again and even...
I believe M5 might have a valid signal now?
I struggle with this because I have so far been successful on the 1hr and above and found it very hard to get trades started in the right places in the 5 and 15min charts.
I agree an entry lower down near the H4 Ks would be better.
  • #5,477
  • Oct 22, 2009 2:23pm Oct 22, 2009 2:23pm
Hey guys just wanted to share a couple trades on the NZDUSD using the Divergence candles--with TREND..(1 hour charts) not being greedy, taking 30-60 pips with multiple lots and re-entering on retracements and taking good signals.

Using CH SP for Resistance and TP


Already hit TP1 40 pips or so...
Just one way I trade ICHI....there are soooooo many ways to trade aren't there?


Hope this helps someone--
Keep up the great posts..really enjoy them

The Eegle
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  • #5,478
  • Oct 22, 2009 3:40pm Oct 22, 2009 3:40pm
Kevin
Did you mention the other day most of your TPs were in the 50-100pips region?
Do you ever hold longer term trades or are you simply entering, closing, re-entering on other signals?

Obviously the pros for closing and re-entering is guaranteed profit and making more pips out of the same move than holding 1 trade.
Cons against it are risk of a re-entry going against you.
  • #5,479
  • Oct 22, 2009 3:44pm Oct 22, 2009 3:44pm
Just one way I trade ICHI....there are soooooo many ways to trade aren't there?


Hope this helps someone--
Keep up the great posts..really enjoy them

The Eegle

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REALLY USEFUL.

THANKS, EEGLE

BEST TO ALL KUMO WARRIORS, DAVE
  • #5,480
  • Edited 8:00pm Oct 22, 2009 6:28pm | Edited 8:00pm
Not much has changed in the markets today. Seeing some long wicks on the daily usd/cad candle but would love to see a thrust up to that 1.0600/700 area and rejection of that area before I would look to sell.

Crude oil continues to show bullish momentum targeting $90.

I just paid .17 cents more for frickin gas today from last thurday....hhhmmmm.

golfer
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