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  • #5,441
  • Oct 21, 2009 10:48pm Oct 21, 2009 10:48pm
No worries conservative is best, saves your money
  • #5,442
  • Oct 21, 2009 11:19pm Oct 21, 2009 11:19pm
Warriors

Please share your chart ideas....weekly/daily/4hr.

We all have our favorites.

Watch the crude oil vs Usd/cad.



golferfx
  • #5,443
  • Oct 21, 2009 11:42pm Oct 21, 2009 11:42pm
Ichimoku 5 seprate indicators should not used in issolation. Rest it works for me ! gr8
  • #5,444
  • Oct 22, 2009 1:13am Oct 22, 2009 1:13am
Just want to say another thanks guys....this thread and ichimoku are awesome
  • #5,445
  • Oct 22, 2009 5:51am Oct 22, 2009 5:51am
Any feelings on EU at the moment?
If the 1hr closes above the Ts and the Cs trenline breaks, I may go long.
Note also, if you draw an uptrendline on the CS here, you see a price bounce.
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  • #5,446
  • Edited 7:36am Oct 22, 2009 6:38am | Edited 7:36am
Quoting ichidakiller
Just want to say another thanks guys....this thread and ichimoku are awesome
But you are not trading ichi anymore. It's all just s/r now and pn bars and you will fail. Go back and read page 1 all of you - Including Vic. Kevins trades are great in the current environment (particularly E/U & nz/U but i have had plenty of failure using his techniques.
A question to vic and sinner
Last night at 5.00pm approx Eastern Australia Time the E/G posted the strong sell signal on the 1 h chart as articulated on page 1 of this thread. Vic lost pips (cause he was already long) and dollars we are to presume .Sinner did not. Sinner trades and all his trades as far as I can see result in strong results . The signal last night resulted in a large sell down. I cannot believe how many times I have seen this signal and then seen how powerful it is. Kevin you keep using the word "bet" in your posts. Up to recent times it has always been trading round here but I fear you are all turning to the online casino - Good Luck with it but I will stick to strong buy/sell signal as i see them only. Vic my question is mainly to you - why did you not take the strong sell signal last night on the E/G - it was bloody plain to see and only stubbornness could have prevented you from entering or else you were absent from the charts.
PS I can see a million pin bar divergent bars which fail - I see very few strong sell or buy signals as articulated on page 1 of this thread which fail.
I'd rather wait a month for 1 strong signal than trade 20 failed divergent candles
  • #5,447
  • Edited 7:49am Oct 22, 2009 6:54am | Edited 7:49am
Quoting Joe GX
But you are not trading ichi anymore. It's all just s/r now and pn bars and you will fail. Go back and read page 1 all of you - Including Vic. Kevins trades are great in the current environment (particularly E/U & nz/U but i have had plenty of failure using his techniques.
A question to vic and sinner
Last night at 5.00pm approx Eastern Australia Time the E/G posted the strong sell signal on the 1 h chart as articulated on page 1 of this thread. Vic lost pips and dollars we are to presume .Sinner did not. Sinner trades and all his trades as far...
And now I'm on my pillar box I will say this
If someone in the thread identifies a strong sell or buy signal (with the trend) then could they please put it up as a possibility. I have done this on sever9al occasions and I admit that not all of mine have been good and some completely hopeless but at least I had a go. this business of putting up "hey dickheads you should of all been on this one" and posting a chart to prove it (well after the fact) it is ridiculous and it really gives me the sh**ts. If this thread is to be of any use it should be with prospective trade not just a mentoring site. And then if there is a problem with the trade idea it can be immediately made apparent to the author.

Stop hiding behind shyness people if you see a trade take it and alert others to it or else post it and see what critiscism becomes of your trade - it won't kill you for god's sake and we will all learn. I thought 1070 was too high for gold and when I saw a pin bar reversal with RSI divergence I posted it - but I am no genius I've only been trading six months. As it turns out gold hasn't approached that price since. (yeh so this is against trend)

Sinner posted live trades - Kevin posts possible "well if price descends or ascends to here then it will probably go to here bull shit - it is bull shit and you will all find it is so in due course. You can pay for that sort of advice and it is crap.
With this thread I thought I had found genuine real traders and I hope this thread gets back to that status
By the way if Gold gets to $2000 I think it might fall - yeh I put that up now cause I am a DICK SWINGER - just kidding kiddies - you must all think I'm crazy
  • #5,448
  • Oct 22, 2009 7:05am Oct 22, 2009 7:05am
Quoting SanMiguel
Any feelings on EU at the moment?
If the 1hr closes above the Ts and the Cs trenline breaks, I may go long.
Note also, if you draw an uptrendline on the CS here, you see a price bounce.
And Sanmiguel

Chik trend line break are actually current trent line line breaks - it is not predictive any more han a trend line break is - sorry to dissappoint
  • #5,449
  • Oct 22, 2009 8:19am Oct 22, 2009 8:19am
Quoting Joe GX
And now I'm on my pillar box I will say this
If someone in the thread identifies a strong sell or buy signal (with the trend) then could they please put it up as a possibility. I have done this on sever9al occasions and I admit that not all of mine have been good and some completely hopeless but at least I had a go. this business of putting up "hey dickheads you should of all been on this one" and posting a chart to prove it (well after the fact) it is ridiculous and it really gives me the sh**ts. If this thread is to be of any use it should be...


lol

I don't think you're crazy. I get frustrated too, I just try to stick to my plan as does Sinner and Kevin etc. Just stick to the proper strong ichi signals and keep sharpening your skills. I am still looking at only strong signals and using ichi to forecast as best as I can. I hope to make it my own in a sense and eventually be a steady dick swinger too. lol
  • #5,450
  • Oct 22, 2009 8:30am Oct 22, 2009 8:30am
Any thoughts on Ucad long? Its a fresh 1h cross with 4h support breaking kumo and bouncing slowly off ts after flat ks held. The only thing I don't like is the 1h ks now turning down.

Our of respect for GI's rough but straight talking request let's see if we can figure out some trades beforehand.

Steve
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  • #5,451
  • Edited 8:47am Oct 22, 2009 8:35am | Edited 8:47am
Quoting calderone


lol

I don't think you're crazy. I get frustrated too, I just try to stick to my plan as does Sinner and Kevin etc. Just stick to the proper strong ichi signals and keep sharpening your skills. I am still looking at only strong signals and using ichi to forecast as best as I can. I hope to make it my own in a sense and eventually be a steady dick swinger too. lol
Cool man I'd like to buy a waterfront property too but I don't think it will happen if we gamble on price .
I keep checking charts and yeh sure you can say well if price get here it might go up and down to here (it's a gamble). If you see the strong sell or buy signal as articulated by vic on page 1 of ths thread then price moves accordingly. It is scary and it often looks ridiculously unlikely but it always occurs.
I for one want to restrict the number of tading techniques employed by this thread. Kevin I haven't been in close dialogue with you but I perceive your trading technique to be based on no more than trend line stuff and I can do this without ichi so I think you are relying on luck
PS I am going to try and put all posts in future into the most consise and gramatically correct format I can so as not to confuse people. My English is going down hill as a result of reading this thread so I will try to keep some standards. No critiscism intended for any non English speaking members - but please try and learn.
  • #5,452
  • Oct 22, 2009 8:36am Oct 22, 2009 8:36am
Quoting stevewide
Any thoughts on Ucad long? Its a fresh 1h cross with 4h support breaking kumo and bouncing slowly off ts after flat ks held. The only thing I don't like is the 1h ks now turning down.

Our of respect for GI's rough but straight talking request let's see if we can figure out some trades beforehand.

Steve
Steve,
Good to hear from you and thank you for the kind words.

I'm looking at this as well. The only concern I have is that there are major Canadian news releases soon. I'm on the fence but was considering a reduced lot amount.

Mike
  • #5,453
  • Oct 22, 2009 8:43am Oct 22, 2009 8:43am
Quoting stevewide
Any thoughts on Ucad long? Its a fresh 1h cross with 4h support breaking kumo and bouncing slowly off ts after flat ks held. The only thing I don't like is the 1h ks now turning down.

Our of respect for GI's rough but straight talking request let's see if we can figure out some trades beforehand.

Steve

See page 363...#5434

Thats where I would be looking.

golf
  • #5,454
  • Oct 22, 2009 8:45am Oct 22, 2009 8:45am
Quoting Joe GX
Cool man I'd like to buy a waterfront property too but I don't think it will happen if we gamble on price .
I keep checking charts and yeh sure you can say well if price get here it might go up and down to here (it's a gamble). If you see the strong sell or buy signal as articulated by vic on page 1 of ths thread then price moves accordingly. It is scary and it often looks ridiculously unlikely but it always occurs.
I for one want to restrict the number of tading techniques employed by this thread. Kevin I haven't been in close dialogue with you...
I'd rather wait for a stong signal with the time frames in alignment. If we stick to that, we will be trading our plan. I don't expect to be as sharp as some traders but eventually I will be.

It could be that some ichi traders process the signals faster and don't really have to stop and measure if you know what I mean? Measure twice, cut once-they can glance and see the whole picture very quickly.

I don't know for sure but I appreciate everyone's opinion, I may not believe everything I hear or read but it has value if they feel strongly enough to post it. Sinner is just a dynamite trader and he could probablly trade using fish sticks. lol

I will try to contribute more to the thread when I am able. You also might want to google Chris Caprie (sp), he is a pro ichi trader.
  • #5,455
  • Oct 22, 2009 8:51am Oct 22, 2009 8:51am
Guys,

I don't trade the way was stated initially in the thread. But I also don't put it down, call all you guys lucky, or call it bullshit. I accept you trade this way, and stick to my own guns. I am not claiming to be the next Messiah trying to teach anyone or that I have the chosen way. Just trying to help. The constant need to prove myself is redundant; I don't care whether you believe in me or not. I can stand with out Forex Factory, but I am here for the company.

Regards,

Kevin
  • #5,456
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:04am Oct 22, 2009 9:04am
Quoting kharvell
Guys,

I don't trade the way was stated initially in the thread. But I also don't put it down, call all you guys lucky, or call it bullshit. I accept you trade this way, and stick to my own guns. I am not claiming to be the next Messiah trying to teach anyone or that I have the chosen way. Just trying to help. The constant need to prove myself is redundant; I don't care whether you believe in me or not. I can stand with out Forex Factory, but I am here for the company.

Regards,

Kevin
OK if you are here for company then you can respect Sinner's trading knowledge. Acknowldege that, and then we can all move on. I guess you can now pretty well see from his forsight that he has a bloody good forensic knowledge for the moves that many varied pairs will take and I for one really value his opinions and would love to see them posted here again - wouldn't you?
  • #5,457
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:05am Oct 22, 2009 9:05am
Quoting kharvell
Guys,

I don't trade the way was stated initially in the thread. But I also don't put it down, call all you guys lucky, or call it bullshit. I accept you trade this way, and stick to my own guns. I am not claiming to be the next Messiah trying to teach anyone or that I have the chosen way. Just trying to help. The constant need to prove myself is redundant; I don't care whether you believe in me or not. I can stand with out Forex Factory, but I am here for the company.

Regards,

Kevin
Kevin,
I am glad you came back. You were gone for a while or didn't post. I used to follow your posts and I consider you a solid trader. Don't even consider skipping out on us dude. Say whatever you want and share your analysis because it is valuable. Your style may be different than mine or others but thats what makes life colorful.

Mike
  • #5,458
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:08am Oct 22, 2009 9:08am
Quoting Joe GX
OK if you are here for company then you can respect Sinner's trading knowledge. Acknowldege that, and then we can all move on. I guess you can now pretty well see from his forsight that he has a bloody good forensic knowledge for the moves that many varied pairs will take and I for one really value his opinions and would love to see them posted here again - wouldn't you?
Nobody has to say anything. Sinner is welcome here and he knows it.

Let's just respect each other's opinion and leave the banter to the interactive trading. lol

Cheers!
  • #5,459
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:14am Oct 22, 2009 9:14am
hi my friend
i would like to say sometihng about the cross on MTF and the retrace to KS . witch in my opinion get u in the same place and shouldnt make u feel it is new and different from the way vic explained at the begining of the thread .
please look at the chart attached and open an EU CHART on 4 h . look where the cross happen on h4
options u have :
1- would u go long at this cross , if yes u would go for a huge DD OF 90 PIP if not slightly more.
2- go to look for m15 let s say or m5 to look for a cross to confirm your entry long , fine draw a line on the cross of h4( green line on my chart ) and switch the chart to m15 or m5 and look is there a cross , no there is no cross so no entry . if u keep waiting , u will get the cross to go long on m15 where i have drawn my bleu line .
3- if u wait for a retrace to KS you would have entered at at the ks an u would have had 30 pip draw down before it goes in your way and retrace again on u , and u end up finally with the blue line where u got the signal on m15 .
finally it s almost the same , using the bounce on ks is bit more aggressive and would sometimes put u in a trade a bit earlier .
i hope i was clear and i know this is not new for u and i am not pretending teaching u anything here because i believe i am the one who has to take teachings from u and other guys we don't see anymore here . just i wanted to bring it this up in case it can be useful for anyone .
friendly regards
samer
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  • #5,460
  • Oct 22, 2009 9:17am Oct 22, 2009 9:17am
Quoting kharvell
Guys,

I don't trade the way was stated initially in the thread. But I also don't put it down, call all you guys lucky, or call it bullshit. I accept you trade this way, and stick to my own guns. I am not claiming to be the next Messiah trying to teach anyone or that I have the chosen way. Just trying to help. The constant need to prove myself is redundant; I don't care whether you believe in me or not. I can stand with out Forex Factory, but I am here for the company.

Regards,

Kevin
And I also appreciate the trade ideas you put up but I personally do consider them more a gamble than a trade. Trendline stuff is always such.
Again I reiterate: I cannot believe how powerful the strong signal is and every time I see it posted - particularly on the 1/2h or or 1 hour time charts I am completely flabergasted cause I have not trade it yet but I simply watch it in awe. It is not a maybe it is a dead certainty that price will move in the direction indicated and you might as well ""Load UP".
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