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  • #5,421
  • Oct 21, 2009 4:01pm Oct 21, 2009 4:01pm
I am a great believer in trading 1 main pair that you know well and also trading with the trend.
The question I have is based around changes of sentiment - there comes a time when the pair you trade will move from bullish to bearish and vice versa. However, the most important trend, the Daily chart is the last to indicate this change in trend so what do we do in the meantime?
GBPUSD is a perfect example of this recently and if we didn't take any counter trend trades we would have missed out on almost 1000 pips in the last week or so.
What would we do in these cases? Some would say find another pair with a strong trend but IMO the pairs I trade when I have not followed them closely are the ones I lose money on.
Knowing 1 pair would allow counter trend trading but this has it's own risks.
  • #5,422
  • Edited 5:18pm Oct 21, 2009 5:13pm | Edited 5:18pm
Quoting calderone
Hey Samer!

I'm still around buddy. I am just concentrating on trading. I still read the thread and pay attention to your posts. I just have a lot going on these days.
I still am a purist with ichi and still only trust the strong signal as Vic described in the first 10 pages. The thread has evolved and it seems that many of the original followers have learned all they can from me anyway-I am learning from you guys- "avid student."

I told Vic that I didn't think I could contribute regularly and if I couldn't give 100% I thought that it...
Calderone,

Thanks my friend for the comment on my behalf. As always you have been a great comrade in the fight. As you have stated I am working very hard to get my business off the ground to diversify my financial situation. Forex, I hope in the future will change all of this but to date it has not but very promising. The guys in the thread are doing an excellent job and certainly adding quite a bit of flavor to the original Ichi strategy. As you stated also, I remain a purist to the original first 10 pages and use it as the "system" it was meant to be. I believe some of us are trying to perfect as system that is great the way it is already. Don't get me wrong, as the markets change we should adapt accordingly, but never lose the original focus of the Ichi system as a whole. After all, you cant build perfection on imperfection. And we all know the large institutions we trade with and against are definitely not perfect but influence the market one way or the other all the time.

As I told Vic privately, I will be on line as much as I can give my situation and help out wherever I can. I think we all have something to offer here, as long as we remain objective.

Just my two cents.

thanks everyone for keep the thread constructive and open....Keep it going!

Lionsden
thanks for the honorable mention Samer!
Oh and Shout out to the new guys contributing in the old guys absence
  • #5,423
  • Oct 21, 2009 6:18pm Oct 21, 2009 6:18pm
Hey guys,

There have some been some great posts here recently, nice work team!

Want to talk about where I shall enter next with EUR/USD. Order set for 1.4938 (flat TS and future kumo).

Put in a small position into AUD/USD @.9273, just in case trend continues up tonight, may move against me, but eventually should move up.

Only other order set is in NZD/USD set rather conservatively at very flat KS (.747)
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  • #5,424
  • Oct 21, 2009 7:41pm Oct 21, 2009 7:41pm
AUD/USD should jump a few pips at 0200z IF China's real GDP data is above 9%, current consensus is 9.1%
If above 9% all commodities will jump a bit.
Hope this helps, If any of you guys are awake then.

Regards
Price is what you pay. Value is what you get
  • #5,425
  • Oct 21, 2009 8:28pm Oct 21, 2009 8:28pm
sameone trade here on the asien session?
how much do u spend tradig a day?

iam free on the asin session so i ask it hope u dont maind about it

cheer
  • #5,426
  • Oct 21, 2009 8:29pm Oct 21, 2009 8:29pm
nice to hear from u warrior .
be a warrior in your business too .and pls pass by and drop a post when u have time . it is always a pleasure to hear from u .
wish u success
friendly
samer

Quoting lionsden
Calderone,

Thanks my friend for the comment on my behalf. As always you have been a great comrade in the fight. As you have stated I am working very hard to get my business off the ground to diversify my financial situation. Forex, I hope in the future will change all of this but to date it has not but very promising. The guys in the thread are doing an excellent job and certainly adding quite a bit of flavor to the original Ichi strategy. As you stated also, I remain a purist to the original first 10 pages and use it as the "system" it was meant...
  • #5,427
  • Oct 21, 2009 8:32pm Oct 21, 2009 8:32pm
hi kevin
i join you with your trades for today for EU and nzdusd .
good luck
  • #5,428
  • Oct 21, 2009 8:35pm Oct 21, 2009 8:35pm
Quoting kharvell
Hey guys,

There have some been some great posts here recently, nice work team!

Want to talk about where I shall enter next with EUR/USD. Order set for 1.4938 (flat TS and future kumo).

Put in a small position into AUD/USD @.9273, just in case trend continues up tonight, may move against me, but eventually should move up.

Only other order set is in NZD/USD set rather conservatively at very flat KS (.747)

Thanks Kevin for your Euro analysis and Ichi wisdom!!!

What are your opinions of euro/$ and where you see we are headed among this doom/gloom $usd enviroment.

I have attached a weekly chart...sorry I know you do not follow the weeklys...but if you could comment I would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks bro and all you contribute, great to have a real money trader on the thread and we look forward to all your comments.

humble golfer
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  • #5,429
  • Oct 21, 2009 8:39pm Oct 21, 2009 8:39pm
hi
Quoting Superscalper
sameone trade here on the asien session? yes i do, ichi can be very good in asian session
how much do u spend tradig a day? this i cant answer u , it depends anyway u can set your target and leave your computer , but better if u follow your positons once in a while .

iam free on the asin session so i ask it hope u dont maind about it
we dont mind at all , u are welcome
cheer
  • #5,430
  • Oct 21, 2009 9:03pm Oct 21, 2009 9:03pm
Quoting samer960
hi
hi samer960 thanke u for u r replay

i will give it a try..on what pair do u trade on the asian session?what time fraim?(can i use the 1 M?)
  • #5,431
  • Oct 21, 2009 9:11pm Oct 21, 2009 9:11pm
Hi Superscalper

I'm new here too, I trade AUD/USD

Read pages 1 to 10 of this thread, this will answer most of your questions.

Regards
Price is what you pay. Value is what you get
  • #5,432
  • Edited 9:38pm Oct 21, 2009 9:18pm | Edited 9:38pm
hi
i believe the way to succeed with ichi is as posted originally by vic u have to get familiar with all these lines and the meaning of these lines , so please go ahead and read a first 15 pages of this thread , he is using MTF , u got to find for yourself witch MTF u feel more comfortable with , i like daily , 4 h , and fine tuning the entry with m15 .
forget 1 min , i don't find it useful with this method even if few trades were taken at the beginning of this thread by vic and myself .
more than the original concept described by vic , there is kevin way , and in order not to make it long , just be sure of the trend on daily TF and u enter in the direction of the trend using a bounce on KS on 3 h chart or 4 h if u are using MT4. witch is a sound way of trading because u are buying on pullback to Support line and this strategy stand correct .
i dont know if u have gone through the few first pages in this thread but if you didnt do it for your own good .
hope this help

Quoting Superscalper
hi samer960 thanke u for u r replay

i will give it a try..on what pair do u trade on the asian session?what time fraim?(can i use the 1 M?)
  • #5,433
  • Oct 21, 2009 9:25pm Oct 21, 2009 9:25pm
thanke u samer960 and scalpin

i will take the time to read on

cheer
  • #5,434
  • Oct 21, 2009 9:39pm Oct 21, 2009 9:39pm
My thoughts have not changed since spring...if oil is climbing and the charts show it, the best trade has been shorting Usd/Cad.

Every counter move to the upside is a sell opportunity...vise/versa with oil futures...buying the dips.

Resistance is the 1.0600 area...a break of 1.0200 is a sweet spot and most likely to find support around.9700 then onto .9100

just my 2 cents

golfer
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  • #5,435
  • Oct 21, 2009 10:15pm Oct 21, 2009 10:15pm
golfer
thanks for ur chart although it s not a pair i like to trade but i think shorting this pair at 1.06 witch is th ks level on a daily chart could be a good trade . i will go for it , with small lot because im not so comfortable with usdcad
thanks

Quoting golferfx
My thoughts have not changed since spring...if oil is climbing and the charts show it, the best trade has been shorting Usd/Cad.

Every counter move to the upside is a sell opportunity...vise/versa with oil futures...buying the dips.

Resistance is the 1.0600 area...a break of 1.0200 is a sweet spot and most likely to find support around.9700 then onto .9100

just my 2 cents

golfer
  • #5,436
  • Oct 21, 2009 10:21pm Oct 21, 2009 10:21pm
Now let's apply the ichi on the same charts and we will see the same thing...chikou span showing where S & R is and our breakouts...clouds showing the big trend...KS showing the overall S & R.

Don't over complicate your trading...keep it very simple, keep it very tight and don't listen to others trading idea's...you will lose...why...because you did not adhere to your charts.
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  • #5,437
  • Oct 21, 2009 10:27pm Oct 21, 2009 10:27pm
Quoting samer960
golfer
thanks for ur chart although it s not a pair i like to trade but i think shorting this pair at 1.06 witch is th ks level on a daily chart could be a good trade . i will go for it , with small lot because im not so comfortable with usdcad
thanks

Hey Samer,

It has always been one of my favorites...I use to trade the futures on the Cad. Very good relationship to crude vs the us $. Trends veeery well.

good luck warrior.
  • #5,438
  • Oct 21, 2009 10:29pm Oct 21, 2009 10:29pm
Hey samer, good luck on your trades. To let you know, I moved my NZD/USD order to .7495 because there is a lot of flat kumo at this level and a bounce of the ts around this level (chart below).

Quoting golferfx
Thanks Kevin for your Euro analysis and Ichi wisdom!!!

What are your opinions of euro/$ and where you see we are headed among this doom/gloom $usd enviroment.

I have attached a weekly chart...sorry I know you do not follow the weeklys...but if you could comment I would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks bro and all you contribute, great to have a real money trader on the thread and we look forward to all your comments.

humble golfer
Hi golfer,

Thanks for the nice words, I appreciate your input just as much. In terms of EUR/USD, all I can say is the trend is bull now dude. That's pretty much all you need to know.

Good luck,

Kevin
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  • #5,439
  • Oct 21, 2009 10:40pm Oct 21, 2009 10:40pm
Quoting kharvell
Hey samer, good luck on your trades. To let you know, I moved my NZD/USD order to .7495 because there is a lot of flat kumo at this level and a bounce of the ts around this level (chart below).



Hi golfer,

Thanks for the nice words, I appreciate your input just as much. In terms of EUR/USD, all I can say is the trend is bull now dude. That's pretty much all you need to know.

Good luck,

Kevin



Thanks Kevin,

I honor your wisdom and experience. Keep giving your daily trade ideas and I shall share mine.

golfer
  • #5,440
  • Oct 21, 2009 10:41pm Oct 21, 2009 10:41pm
kevin
i will long it on it is way up . i want to see it passing through this level and go back up ,the candle formations on 4 h is a bit worrying me . i hope i wil not miss the north train doing it this way .
thanks
Quoting kharvell
Hey samer, good luck on your trades. To let you know, I moved my NZD/USD order to .7495 because there is a lot of flat kumo at this level and a bounce of the ts around this level (chart below).



Hi golfer,

Thanks for the nice words, I appreciate your input just as much. In terms of EUR/USD, all I can say is the trend is bull now dude. That's pretty much all you need to know.

Good luck,

Kevin
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