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  • #621
  • Oct 16, 2009 4:03am Oct 16, 2009 4:03am
huh? someone said it was a bug.

any ways, the bot has recovered and back up in profit on the demo account again, this bot only works in huge trending markets, but consolidation areas, be careful it will blow the account out of the water.

Quoting plasmapants
Bob, its not the bot, its what you do with it that counts

wp, what is the bug fixing? is it the math problem by any chance. heres to hoping.
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  • #622
  • Oct 16, 2009 5:44am Oct 16, 2009 5:44am
Its the low volatility that will end up taking too many orders. You need something that has strong swings, or if you persist with eu you might have a really small increment size which comes with its own dangers.
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  • #623
  • Oct 16, 2009 6:18am Oct 16, 2009 6:18am
Quoting plasmapants
Its the low volatility that will end up taking too many orders. You need something that has strong swings, or if you persist with eu you might have a really small increment size which comes with its own dangers.

So very true. Completely agree with what you have said. So having said that how do you cope when;

Volatility is too low,

Increment size is incorrect when compared to the current market;

TP/SL are too close (to many trades are opening);

TP/SL is too far away (price keeps reversing and is taking out more orders
than it should;

Lot size is too big or even too small for the current market

etc etc.

These factors will affect the DD.......... so how do you deal with it.

To some here i am stating the obvious but to others please take note. You cant just pick up this EA, use it a couple of times and say it doesn't work.

Soooo can you tailor the EA to account for all the different scenarios the market has to offer using a standard set. I say probably not, but what if you had a plan for each scenario and tailored multiple copies of the EA to each.... Hmmmmm

I will leave it at that but i can tell you that it does help IF you are aware of what the market is telling you and your in a situation that requires slight 'alterations' to the EA.

Plasma, this is why i like the 'high water level' so much. It can tell me without needing to monitor the charts when a situation is likely to occur. I then intervene with my own market analysis and apply the appropriate EA settings that would probably best suit the current market.

Something to consider.... Same same but different
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.......
  • #624
  • Oct 16, 2009 3:55pm Oct 16, 2009 3:55pm
Quoting plasmapants
Let's say I'm using a grid with 3 levels and 25 pip increment. Tp is 100 pips from the pivot. Price moves up 30 pips so I start second grid. Price goes up another 30 so I stArt 3rd grid. If the price reverses I am never more than 100 pips from tp.

I don't recomend using eu though. Not volatile enough. Gu and ey tend to be best with reasonable spread.

Try it on demo and you'll quickly realise the potential.

What mods are you having made to the grid?
have you seen a multiple grid ea like mgrid before? that may help manage this monster...maybe w/ 3+starting prices for all grids created
  • #625
  • Oct 16, 2009 6:06pm Oct 16, 2009 6:06pm
i'm dreaming about a multi grid ea every day. its going to take some serious programming hours to develop.

til then viper has put a setting in v2.2 so you can change the colour of the pivot line. that helps you know which grid is doing what on which chart.
bull in a china shop
  • #626
  • Oct 17, 2009 1:47am Oct 17, 2009 1:47am
im now investigating new system RBS4 SURE that picks hh ll and overall trend to the pip,

so i think further work will help with entry of grid system of yours ,

as this new RBS4 SURE system generated 27500 pips , with 100 % win rate from the developer, who has asked for help with an ea,

i think this could be incorperated in your system

imagine the trend direction and the entry level defined to the pip so bias trend direction and pips position averaging could be realy hedged WITH 100% ASSURANCE WITH VERY MIN DRAW DOWN

we have already the indicator developed FOR RBS4 SURE, its a question of time for the final ea but once this is done i will make it available to you for help in your EA IMPROVEMENT

FOREX SAINT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN document evidence and spread sheets with video email me direct
like you im intersted in further developement of your work

as im using a simular manual method with 3 live accounts on hedging and 2 live accounts hh ll trading

overall im still making 100% profit hit rates but this new developement seems very exciting, i think your grid system has great potential for further development enhancement

as you say an ea would be better than manual

thank you for your great thread

from Brian
  • #627
  • Oct 17, 2009 8:21am Oct 17, 2009 8:21am
plasmapants buddy have you made a quick summary in bullet points regarding what you know will work? just so i can propose to a couple of friends in case they are interested in coding it
  • #628
  • Oct 17, 2009 11:47am Oct 17, 2009 11:47am
Hey Sim. Long time. I thought the course work must have taken over your life. Any way, good to see your still around.

See my post no 612. Start with that as it is the core building block for this model. Once that is complete we can start incorporating it in to a multi grid.

Vipers probably best to deal with it though as he's done most the ground work already.

Let me know how you get on. You've got my email.

L8er.
bull in a china shop
  • #629
  • Oct 17, 2009 12:36pm Oct 17, 2009 12:36pm
Yep it's been a while mate but don't even go there about the coursework haha, so annoying! Pointless work but it is my final year now so might as well sacrifice the majority of my m1 joy...

Well yeah I did read that post and thought it was quite key but still, I got confused about the progress of the grid ages back when you started enhancing the concept ^^ Nonetheless I'm glad viper is still here for ya, and let's see how it goes!

What would your profit targets be roughly, like in daily %... I know the last one we discussed seemed quite good, you still using that too?

Will let my friends read this thread and see if they can make more sense of this than me

Take care
  • #630
  • Oct 17, 2009 4:55pm Oct 17, 2009 4:55pm
at present, a good friend developed this system based on my HH LL STRATEGY

using a great inovation,he asked me for help in producing an ea
1 /An
indicator

2/
an auo fill spread sheet based on his rbc4 sure system
manual METHOD.

which we have produced now an indicator , a spread sheet auto update ,

we are now working on an ea as a team effort, which will be finished in
about 2 weeks,

so then depending on the team, we will leave this for the
originator of math grid system ,

for handing out the

EA team he chooses for incorperating his method as he SHOULD HAVE THIS CONTROL. OF THE DEVELOPEMENT OR OTHERWISE

the RBC4 SURE SYSTEM doesnt need any developement as the spread sheet auto
fill can be easily converted to with a current ea SUCH AS artemis sitter

for eg, but manual trade IT only require 5 minutes a day max trading.

at this stage RIC doesnt wish to release to the general public,
untill our
current close team finalize the developement and iron out small isues,it

will then be availaible for free, and released on my web site as a complete
package. IF AGREED BY OUR TEAM MEMBERS

so then im sure any person will be able to modify and write there own ea. INCORPERATING THE GRID

for me it realy doesnt need an ea, but for some it will prove interesting

as it is at this stage fantastic manual system that is so easy

thank you for your kind offer

god bless you from BRIAN
  • #631
  • Oct 17, 2009 5:08pm Oct 17, 2009 5:08pm
The originator of this math grid is FOREX FLASH. Wasn't his original idea but he did recode it and make adjustments throughout.

When he moved onto other projects, TradingViper took over with more modifications.
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.......
  • #632
  • Oct 17, 2009 6:23pm Oct 17, 2009 6:23pm
It'd be good to keep this thread dedicated to 100% Win Math Ea.
bull in a china shop
  • #633
  • Oct 18, 2009 12:17am Oct 18, 2009 12:17am
guys if havent done so yet, lookup williama on fpa website for more info on this grid idea
  • #634
  • Oct 18, 2009 1:48am Oct 18, 2009 1:48am
Correct.

This is where the math grid originated from before FOREX FLASH recoded it. Here is the link if anyone is interested:

http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-...-system-2.html

Thanks rbrtsha, it's not a bad idea to sometimes go back to the roots of a system and see the variations between them all.
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.......
  • #635
  • Oct 18, 2009 6:52am Oct 18, 2009 6:52am
Quoting brijon
...............
we have already the indicator developed FOR RBS4 SURE, its a question of time for the final ea but once this is done i will make it available to you for help in your EA IMPROVEMENT

FOREX SAINT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN document evidence and spread sheets with video email me direct like you im intersted in further developement of your work
.............
thank you for your great thread
...............
Hello brijon..
I thing u r getting it wrong. You should go through the thread from post 1. again.
This thread has not been started me. I have been posting lately only.
I have not developed a iota of stuff of any Grid Ea posted here as yet.
This type of Math Grid EA was basically based on WilliamsA of forexpeacearmy
as known to those really interested in this from long.
Forexflash is the Owner of this thread who left this strategy after testing it and finding that, ultimately it will not work.
Just after few time TradingViper got interested in this and has been helping with ViperGrid EA which are successor of Mgrid EA's with features suggested by some "still interested" members here.
I have nothing more in this thread than a few feature request posts for the EA.

As regarding your new RBS system, i would better advise you to start a new thread for that...bcoz this stuff already involves lot of variables to be evaluated for making this system better. So there is no point adding more indi and other systems to it, till results of those are evaluated completely.

Yes, would look forward to your new system results... after you finish up testing...do let me know..i will mail you for sure then. Thanks
Regards
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  • #636
  • Oct 19, 2009 1:27am Oct 19, 2009 1:27am
Quoting forexsaint
Hello brijon..
I thing u r getting it wrong. You should go through the thread from post 1. again.
This thread has not been started me. I have been posting lately only.
I have not developed a iota of stuff of any Grid Ea posted here as yet.
This type of Math Grid EA was basically based on WilliamsA of forexpeacearmy
as known to those really interested in this from long.
Forexflash is the Owner of this thread who left this strategy after testing it...
we have already back tested developed a excell live update spread sheet and a inDicator , currently working on an ea will be completed in 2 weeks BUT SIMPLE MANUAL WORKS FANTASTIC

depending on group team we may or may not publish on ff
GOD BLEsS FROM BRIAN
  • #637
  • Oct 20, 2009 5:00pm Oct 20, 2009 5:00pm
Hey Viper.

Any inside info for releasing version 2.3?
bull in a china shop
  • #638
  • Oct 21, 2009 11:25pm Oct 21, 2009 11:25pm
Quoting plasmapants
Finished testing vGrid ver2.2

Math works fine on default lot size.

Math does not place pending orders correctly when you use 'min lot size'. It seems to place 1 set of pending orders on the opposite side when b2 is hit.

Used alpari demo for testing. increment 25 pips.


Viper, it would be great if this could be fixed for the next version.
Plasma,

This issue must be intermittent. I have used 'min lot size' parameter without seeing the issue you see. I have been testing and it seems to be working OK during the testing periods I have been looking at.

Anyway, this is what's holding up the next build. I want to see if I can find this elusive bug or declare that you're crazy :-)

Viper
  • #639
  • Oct 21, 2009 11:42pm Oct 21, 2009 11:42pm
Quoting wp00000008
if(SellGoalProfit<ProfitTarget)...

I had noticed this bug - odd programming - originally but then had so much to do, did not address it. This rarely manifests as a problem because when we need to add sell orders, it is because a buy just executed, so the if check around the order send passes, ticket is updated and no problem.

Even in the worst case, where it did manifest, the code would simply run again on the next tick, realize that it still needed to sell more and try again.

Everyone, this code snippet is from the original mGrid, not vGrid, so this is not a difference - vGrid carried the same 'bug' forward. I'll fix it for the next version.

Good catch though WP ! :-)

Viper
  • #640
  • Oct 21, 2009 11:51pm Oct 21, 2009 11:51pm
Quoting plasmapants
Hi Viper,


Comment (use this text in the 'comments' field instead of the starting price)
Plasma, Why do you want to change the comment ?

I have been thinking about changing the comment to the grid (set) start time (date+time) so no two will ever be the same. In my testing, I had a couple grids start up only to immediately shut down because they were at the same price as a previous grid... This is not a trivial change...

I would not want it to be a user input because it HAS to be unique for every grid set.

Viper
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