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  • #3,741
  • Sep 23, 2009 9:34am Sep 23, 2009 9:34am
Quoting vic_elc
Vincy

for sure i do remember you man , i never forget any one talked with me
wishing you all the luck
cheers Vic
Vic....

yes thank You.. very much...

Cheer... I was praying vic didn't Forgotten me
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  • #3,742
  • Sep 23, 2009 9:40am Sep 23, 2009 9:40am
Quoting 4xAddict
Hi VB,

Glad you have joined us, are you able to elaborate more on your bat formation.

As You know Addict ..... The Chikou span Is a Moving like That Market Goes...


Means it is a Sole of Market Movement..

So My Point was The Bat formation Can also on Chikou span.. Because It is a Market Behaviors Line...

You can Get More Information Go to My Blog...here http://all-in-one300.blogspot.com/
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  • #3,743
  • Sep 23, 2009 9:40am Sep 23, 2009 9:40am
Quoting 4xAddict
Hi FK,

For what it's worth, if you are in the black on this trade at the moment it's probably worth considering banking what you've made and waiting till after FOMC.

The kumo has narrowed a lot and whilst the current projection shows it widening again in the projection (future), there is little to stop the price crashing down through the kumo in the immediate term if there is bullish USD information coming from the FOMC decision.

Cheers.
Unfortunately i'm in the red at this point I think I'm just going to let it play out and see if it pans out at I saw it last night. The advice is very much appreciated though. I believe if I was in the black, i would cut out, but for now, I will use this as a lesson learned and apply it to future trades.
  • #3,744
  • Sep 23, 2009 9:42am Sep 23, 2009 9:42am
Quoting vic_elc
i'll remove this rock mate

this is the patterns techniques , it is very famous i have used it before but it was not meant for me
you can google them for more info , mean while am searching for my old resources about them and will update it soon

cheers

Hey vic Please have a Look to your Mail..

thanks
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  • #3,745
  • Sep 23, 2009 9:47am Sep 23, 2009 9:47am
Quoting Giny
Guys, I have entered based on 4hourly ks a short trade on usdjpy and usdcad and a long trade on eurgbp. These positions are on top of trades I am currently running with my SL about 20 pips behind 4hourly KS.

Warning: not Vic's method

Just curious as to why? JPY is in the cloud and the span is above price, and the cad is above the cloud and the span is above price as well. As for the long e/g, the K is flat and the T is curling down. Again i'm just wondering why you're looking at taking these positions and if I'm not seeing something I should be please let me know. I'd love to get this mastered and do more helping then harm
  • #3,746
  • Sep 23, 2009 9:55am Sep 23, 2009 9:55am
Quoting fkforex
Just curious as to why? JPY is in the cloud and the span is above price, and the cad is above the cloud and the span is above price as well. As for the long e/g, the K is flat and the T is curling down. Again i'm just wondering why you're looking at taking these positions and if I'm not seeing something I should be please let me know. I'd love to get this mastered and do more helping then harm
I believe giny short the usd/jpy according to S/R rules on the 4hr kijun sen. As the daily, weekly and monthly is showing a bearish sign, taking the 4hr kijun sen as a resistance level might be reasonable. However due to FOMC coming up, i think it might be betta to stay on the sidelines?? Correct me if i am wrong thanks!
  • #3,747
  • Sep 23, 2009 9:58am Sep 23, 2009 9:58am
Quoting SanMiguel
This trade didn't work out quite as intended. It was 1 hr sell on the GBPJPY with a stop at the 4hr Ks. In hindsight, the MPC news report today is what moved the price up so much but I guess it had started a little before that.
Exactly what Happened to me. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I hate the news!!! lol
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  • #3,748
  • Sep 23, 2009 10:11am Sep 23, 2009 10:11am
well Guys

i see that Giny style is some how weird for you, let me explain it very simple

Giny is working on S/R , this means that he set an order at S/R levels and then wait for the trend to begin. Ks Ts Kumo and Span can be used as S/R levels so he is using them as entries

our normal entry in here is after the trend starts to move , we wait till we get our signal as a confirmation that the trend is strong and then we jump with the signal and pick up our share from the Trend

why we use the signal ??? cause the game of S/R is very risky , i have tried it myself and lost a lot of money , so i prefer that we wait till the ,mrket moves and Ichi confirms the move to jump in

feel free to ask about anything
cheers
  • #3,749
  • Sep 23, 2009 10:39am Sep 23, 2009 10:39am
Quoting vic_elc
i'll remove this rock mate

this is the patterns techniques , it is very famous i have used it before but it was not meant for me
you can google them for more info , mean while am searching for my old resources about them and will update it soon

cheers
Hi mate,

Don't spend time on this on my account. I've looked into it and I had just never used the Bat formation using harmonics. I have used Gartley, butterfly and ABCD patterns before however never this Bat pattern.

I stopped using this due to the complexity. Obviously it works for some people but I start seeing things that are not there from staring at the charts trying to make patterns.

This is why ichi is better for me!
  • #3,750
  • Sep 23, 2009 11:03am Sep 23, 2009 11:03am
alot of "action jackson" today I see!!!!

Good luck ichi warriors...I'm gone till friday....if I learn anything good I will post it....hehehehe
  • #3,751
  • Sep 23, 2009 11:10am Sep 23, 2009 11:10am
Quoting 4xAddict
Hi mate,

Don't spend time on this on my account. I've looked into it and I had just never used the Bat formation using harmonics. I have used Gartley, butterfly and ABCD patterns before however never this Bat pattern.

I stopped using this due to the complexity. Obviously it works for some people but I start seeing things that are not there from staring at the charts trying to make patterns.

This is why ichi is better for me!
yeah mate , this is exactly what happened to me , i saw something which was not there at all hehe , Ichi made it clear
cheers
  • #3,752
  • Sep 23, 2009 11:36am Sep 23, 2009 11:36am
Quoting SanMiguel
This trade didn't work out quite as intended. It was 1 hr sell on the GBPJPY with a stop at the 4hr Ks. In hindsight, the MPC news report today is what moved the price up so much but I guess it had started a little before that.

http://www.sidekicker.net/Ichi/GBPJPY_20090923_1.jpg
Anyone else take this one yesterday?
It's virtually impossible to stay out of news reports on the longer trades so I'm wondering what else I could have looked out for...
I feel it's important to concentrate more on the bad trades than the good ones so we can stop them from happening. After all, people naturally tend to forget bad trades and only concentrate on the good ones
  • #3,753
  • Sep 23, 2009 11:58am Sep 23, 2009 11:58am
hi guys...first of all just want to say thanx to vic for opening this thread...i traded using MA before but after reading this thread and using ichi for a while, i can say that i will give this indicator a double thumbs up...

my only gripe is about kumo, bcoz i'm confused between flat top and flat bottom...

'In a bullish trend, this flat senkou span B will result in a flat bottom kumo and in a bearish trend it will manifest as a flat top kumo. The Ichimoku practitioner can use this knowledge of the physics of the flat senkou span B in order to be more cautious about both their exits out of the kumo. For instance, when exiting a flat bottom (bullish) kumo from the bottom, rather than merely placing an entry order 10 pips below the senkou span B, savvy Ichimoku practitioners will look for another point around which to build their entry order to ensure they don't get caught in the flat bottom's "gravitational pull". This method minimizes the number of false breakouts experienced by the trader.'

http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/t..._sentiment.gif

here it says that flat bottom is in uptrend but the price relative to the kumo in the picture that comes with it is downtrend...or does it mean the forwarded kumo?
  • #3,754
  • Sep 23, 2009 12:38pm Sep 23, 2009 12:38pm
This is my first trade with Ichimoku.
I enter late actually on opposite tenkan and kijun sen crossing
I should wait longer actually.
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  • #3,755
  • Sep 23, 2009 12:44pm Sep 23, 2009 12:44pm
Quoting fosgate_r
This is my first trade with Ichimoku.
I enter late actually on opposite tenkan and kijun sen crossing
I should wait longer actually.
So I'm guessing that was a short position taken?
  • #3,756
  • Sep 23, 2009 12:48pm Sep 23, 2009 12:48pm
Wow. almost back to break even on the A/U trade from last night. Hope it his par by the time news breaks. I want out
  • #3,757
  • Sep 23, 2009 12:52pm Sep 23, 2009 12:52pm
Quoting gilos
hi guys...first of all just want to say thanx to vic for opening this thread...i traded using MA before but after reading this thread and using ichi for a while, i can say that i will give this indicator a double thumbs up...

my only gripe is about kumo, bcoz i'm confused between flat top and flat bottom...

'[i]In a bullish trend, this flat senkou span B will result in a flat bottom kumo and in a bearish trend it will manifest as a flat top kumo. The Ichimoku practitioner can use this knowledge of the physics of the flat senkou span B in...

Hi Gilos,

Great that you have joined us here.

The flat top or bottom of a kumo is relevant in predicting future price action. In the example that you show in the picture I would be concerned about the flat top of the kumo if considering making a sell entry as they have a gravitational pull on price.

We use this purely as a consideration when planning future trades.

If you look left in your picture where the price action is above the kumo and the kumo base is flat. It is no longer of any relevance for future trades however if we turned back time and the price action had not yet passed down through the kumo, we would be concerned about entering any long trades here due to the flat bottom of the kumo.

Does that clear things up?

Cheers
  • #3,758
  • Sep 23, 2009 12:55pm Sep 23, 2009 12:55pm
Quoting fkforex
So I'm guessing that was a short position taken?
No, it was long.
Actually I would like to take position before that (as seen in the chart).
Now, mine still doing fine, +10 pips
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  • #3,759
  • Sep 23, 2009 1:00pm Sep 23, 2009 1:00pm
Quoting samer960
hi vincy
i am a newbie , could you please elaborate and give comments to your charts .
thanks

Yes I will Like to ...

But The Guru is Vic...


you can Ask any Question about Ichimku when You Stuck.. Vic can Pull you out..

Vic
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  • #3,760
  • Sep 23, 2009 1:06pm Sep 23, 2009 1:06pm
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