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  • #3,001
  • Edited 5:42am Sep 17, 2009 5:03am | Edited 5:42am
Quoting fruitaly
Hi lbtrader. I recognize the HA power. I'd like to use it with Ichimoku . I had writen it on my blog. Unfortunately, my platform doesn't provide HA . Not patience to open a MT account. By the way. Do you have any suggestions for my found of this deceitful bar?

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fruitaly, the HA candle color can be a downbar but the true candle can be an upbar, it has something to do with the way the HA is calculated in order to reduce the noise from regular candles, the real significance of the HA is to point out the direction of the momentum and its strength. the shape and tail have great significance. read the articles provided and see how this translate in reality.
I hope this clarifies the issue.
  • #3,002
  • Sep 17, 2009 5:09am Sep 17, 2009 5:09am
Quoting lbtrader
Hello kumo warriors and traders
I'm glad to see that sinner and many others added HA candles to their charts, HA by itself is a powerful trading tool and here're the articles that triggered my interest and illustrate it. although the title of the first one is "Ichimoku with modified candle", it is only a part of the article I'll try to get the complete article or if anyone has access to the Chartpoint magazine that published it that would be great.



Hello Dear, how do i get the HA candles to my chart, I would really want to look into it, i use meta traders platform but do not have it here. Kindly advise. Thanks.
  • #3,003
  • Sep 17, 2009 5:23am Sep 17, 2009 5:23am
HA-candle from THV-thread.
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  • #3,004
  • Sep 17, 2009 5:23am Sep 17, 2009 5:23am
Quoting lbtrader
fruitaly, the HA candle color can be red (as in down) but the true candle can be white (as in up), the real significance of the HA is to point out the direction of the momentum and its strength. the shape and tail have great significance. read the articles provided and see how this translate in reality.
I hope this clarifies the issue.
Ok. I understand n have read the articles. Thanks to share lbtrader.
Better a realistic small pip than a fantasy big pip
  • #3,005
  • Sep 17, 2009 5:29am Sep 17, 2009 5:29am
Quoting fendi
Hello Dear, how do i get the HA candles to my chart, I would really want to look into it, i use meta traders platform but do not have it here. Kindly advise. Thanks.
it is included in the custom indicators of MT4.
  • #3,006
  • Sep 17, 2009 5:39am Sep 17, 2009 5:39am
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  • #3,007
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:13am Sep 17, 2009 6:13am
I tried HA on my MT4 plaform and found that it repaints terribly. Usually the price on the current candle would not be anywhere near the correct position. The price might be in the middle, near the tip or near the bottom which drove me nuts. I tried the HA indicator that comes with MT4 and then I downloaded one from somewhere on this forum and tried it with the same results. Perhaps I just didn't set it up correctly but unless the price displays correctly on the candle I couldn't see the value in it.
  • #3,008
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:25am Sep 17, 2009 6:25am
Quoting Chodi
I tried HA on my MT4 plaform and found that it repaints terribly. Usually the price on the current candle would not be anywhere near the correct position. The price might be in the middle, near the tip or near the bottom which drove me nuts. I tried the HA indicator that comes with MT4 and then I downloaded one from somewhere on this forum and tried it with the same results. Perhaps I just didn't set it up correctly but unless the price displays correctly on the candle I couldn't see the value in it.
Try turning off candles, bars, lines. Change candles to bars for quick step.
  • #3,009
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:50am Sep 17, 2009 6:50am
Hi all,

Here you're the Daily Report for the EURJPY; as you can on the Report a new Bullish Trend was formed on 4hr. & 1Hr. chart.
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  • #3,010
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:51am Sep 17, 2009 6:51am
Quoting Chodi
I tried HA on my MT4 plaform and found that it repaints terribly. .
and so does the regular candle, it changes from bullish to bearish bar many times passing thru doji before it settles on the close.

Quoting Chodi
Usually the price on the current candle would not be anywhere near the correct position. The price might be in the middle, near the tip or near the bottom which drove me nuts. .
you should not be entering into a position till after the close of the current bar or the opening of the new bar.

Quoting Chodi
I tried the HA indicator that comes with MT4 and then I downloaded one from somewhere on this forum and tried it with the same results. Perhaps I just didn't set it up correctly but unless the price displays correctly on the candle I couldn't see the value in it.
The candle does not have to start at the same position of the standard candlestick, nor does it end identically, because of the way it is calculated and this is described clearly in the articles. if you must see the standard price then click the bar icon instead of the candle.
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  • #3,011
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:52am Sep 17, 2009 6:52am
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  • #3,012
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:56am Sep 17, 2009 6:56am
Quoting ChartChecker
Try turning off candles, bars, lines. Change candles to bars for quick step.
Thanks for the suggestion. In MT4 there is no option to turn off candles, bars and line. You must select one of the three. I did try using bars and got the same results the price as it is fluctuating is all over the current candle with no relation to the price. Perhaps some people just ignore this problem and view the price elsewhere? I also see that the size of the candle frequently has no relationship to the true OHLC. In my case I found it very misleading but your mileage may vary. Obviously this works for some people as with most things it is personal preference.
  • #3,013
  • Sep 17, 2009 7:06am Sep 17, 2009 7:06am
Quoting Chodi
Thanks for the suggestion. In MT4 there is no option to turn off candles, bars and line. You must select one of the three. I did try using bars and got the same results the price as it is fluctuating is all over the current candle with no relation to the price. Perhaps some people just ignore this problem and view the price elsewhere? I also see that the size of the candle frequently has no relationship to the true OHLC. In my case I found it very misleading but your mileage may vary. Obviously this works for some people as with most things it is...
Right your are - the HA is not precise, its a form/shape reading candle. It has its own rules per the PDF. It produces late signals, but early warnings. If you are into precise readings with OHLC, and those type signals (like inside bars), candles and their shadow and body size to gauge market strength etc, then HA is not popular. HA sort of turns off the noise. Go iichi anyway.
  • #3,014
  • Sep 17, 2009 7:10am Sep 17, 2009 7:10am
Quoting Chodi
Thanks for the suggestion. In MT4 there is no option to turn off candles, bars and line. You must select one of the three. I did try using bars and got the same results the price as it is fluctuating is all over the current candle with no relation to the price. Perhaps some people just ignore this problem and view the price elsewhere? I also see that the size of the candle frequently has no relationship to the true OHLC. In my case I found it very misleading but your mileage may vary. Obviously this works for some people as with most things it is...
Chodi,

On the MT4 platform just choose a live graph instead of bar or candle and then go into chart properties and change the colour of the line graph same as your background colour. Yor problem has now gone

hth

Nick
  • #3,015
  • Sep 17, 2009 7:13am Sep 17, 2009 7:13am
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  • #3,016
  • Sep 17, 2009 7:17am Sep 17, 2009 7:17am
i read this forum.....and your post is very good ! my english is poor, sorry !
i think that put heiken ashi isn't a good idea.
ishimoku is the system which go alone .
all the signals for the trend !
all the Tf for the trend.....
chikou for S/R....
kumo for volatility....
heiken ashi what for more ?
i'm not warrior but i see ishimoku since 6 month.
  • #3,017
  • Sep 17, 2009 7:58am Sep 17, 2009 7:58am
WOW...Vic you are the man I can't believe that the UJ came back all that way. I have learned my lesson and won't question a master ever again Thank you.

Did anyone jump into a long E/U trade last night? I had too many open positions to get in, but I had noticed around 9pm or so a 15min cross and all other tf's were supporting it. Just curious.

Happy trading all.
  • #3,018
  • Sep 17, 2009 8:01am Sep 17, 2009 8:01am
Quoting fkforex

Did anyone jump into a long E/U trade last night? I had too many open positions to get in, but I had noticed around 9pm or so a 15min cross and all other tf's were supporting it. Just curious.

Happy trading all.
Yes, stopped out breakeven.
  • #3,019
  • Sep 17, 2009 8:06am Sep 17, 2009 8:06am
Quoting SanMiguel
Yes, stopped out breakeven.

Was watching spike tv and scratching myself. lol

Lot of chop in markets.
  • #3,020
  • Sep 17, 2009 8:06am Sep 17, 2009 8:06am
Quoting SanMiguel
Yes, stopped out breakeven.
What was your trailer? I was looking at 25-30 TP if able to get in.
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