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  • #2,841
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:02am Sep 16, 2009 8:02am
Quoting SanMiguel
The price went 15pips above the kumo. I think most would be pretty brave to hold onto a trade like that . Most put the stop 10pips above the kumo don't they? This was also above the 4hr Ks. I may re-enter UJ but I think the stop out was correct.
you mean which stop, the 30 pip one ??? why it was correct ( according to S/R rules not MM rules )??!!
  • #2,842
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:02am Sep 16, 2009 8:02am
Quoting DrPorto
No, I jump with broken max. in H1.
Fisrt go red and finaly move up, but I take profit only with 10 pips because sp500 go down again.
(finaly go up more)
I see. The trend is bullish so I suggest don't fight the trend. Weekly, daily are bullish.

Good luck on your next trade.
  • #2,843
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:03am Sep 16, 2009 8:03am
Quoting vic_elc
you mean which stop, the 30 pip one ??? why it was correct ( according to S/R rules not MM rules )??!!
No, the stop above the 1hr UJ kumo - stopped out at -70.
You mentioned wait for the close but traders would have to be very brave to see price go 15 pips above the kumo and still hold onto the trade.
  • #2,844
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:08am Sep 16, 2009 8:08am
Quoting vic_elc
am holding it till the price close above the 1Hr kumo

this the way to play S/R Game

cheers
Hold it tight, Vic.. H1 SSB and Flat Forward SSB is with you. Probably UJ will not break it. EU is rejecting H1 KS too. Ichimoku is a deadly weapon, really.
Better a realistic small pip than a fantasy big pip
  • #2,845
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:12am Sep 16, 2009 8:12am
Quoting SanMiguel
No, the stop above the 1hr UJ kumo - stopped out at -70.
You mentioned wait for the close but traders would have to be very brave to see price go 15 pips above the kumo and still hold onto the trade.
aaa yes i know how it feels to see the price running against your trade like crazy ,but following 1 pair and know the behavior of the market might add some courage to you and wait till the S/R level is completely broken .
while we are speaking now the price is back below the 1hr Kumo and i am -20 pip only , i'll be following the same rules and await for a close above the Kumo to exit

also i promise you all

I"LL NEVER POST S/R DEALS TILL THE DAY WE ALL CAN BE ABLE TO FEEL THE MARKET AND MANAGE OUR DEALS . from now on only CROSS DEALS

Cheeers

p.s wish me luck in this UJ deal
  • #2,846
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:13am Sep 16, 2009 8:13am
Quoting fruitaly
Hold it tight, Vic.. H1 SSB and Flat Forward SSB is with you. Probably UJ will not break it. EU is rejecting H1 KS too. Ichimoku is a deadly weapon, really.
Interesting trendline on the UJ

http://www.sidekicker.net/Ichi/USDJPY_20090916_1.jpg
  • #2,847
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:13am Sep 16, 2009 8:13am
Quoting SanMiguel
No, the stop above the 1hr UJ kumo - stopped out at -70.
You mentioned wait for the close but traders would have to be very brave to see price go 15 pips above the kumo and still hold onto the trade.
Seems like the trade is going in the brave man vic's favour
  • #2,848
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:14am Sep 16, 2009 8:14am
Quoting fruitaly
Hold it tight, Vic.. H1 SSB and Flat Forward SSB is with you. Probably UJ will not break it. EU is rejecting H1 KS too. Ichimoku is a deadly weapon, really.
no worries mate , am holding it , this was the first test for the daily Support and such kind of move was expected also the Ks 4hrs is to hold for now i think

thanks for the advise

cheeeers
  • #2,849
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:15am Sep 16, 2009 8:15am
Quoting vic_elc
aaa yes i know how it feels to see the price running against your trade like crazy ,but following 1 pair and know the behavior of the market might add some courage to you and wait till the S/R level is completely broken .
while we are speaking now the price is back below the 1hr Kumo and i am -20 pip only , i'll be following the same rules and await for a close above the Kumo to exit

also i promise you all

I"LL NEVER POST S/R DEALS TILL THE DAY WE ALL CAN BE ABLE TO FEEL THE MARKET AND MANAGE OUR DEALS . from now on only CROSS DEALS

Cheeers...
That's fine, I was just making the point that the stop had to be somewhere.
When do you decide it's time to close the trade, is it 10 pips past the kumo, 20 pips past the kumo. What if it went 60 pips past the kumo but you had 30mins left before the candle closed, it might close back in the cloud. DO you see what I mean? There has to come a point where we call the trade dead and so far I think people have been using 10 pips past the kumo...I could be wrong but that seems sensible.
I wish I had seen that trendline earlier though as I would also have held onto the trade.
  • #2,850
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:16am Sep 16, 2009 8:16am
Quoting SanMiguel
Interesting trendline on the UJ
no need to draw it manual , check the Ks 4hrs , this is the real trend the pair is following
  • #2,851
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:19am Sep 16, 2009 8:19am
Quoting SanMiguel
That's fine, I was just making the point that the stop had to be somewhere.
When do you decide it's time to close the trade, is it 10 pips past the kumo, 20 pips past the kumo. What if it went 60 pips past the kumo but you had 30mins left before the candle closed, it might close back in the cloud. DO you see what I mean? There has to come a point where we call the trade dead and so far I think people have been using 10 pips past the kumo...I could be wrong but that seems sensible.
well this deal was S/R and the stop was supposed to be the next resistance level which is 91.6x . the S/R game is very risky and needs very tide money management, this why i was saying we shall be going now for cross signals till we all be able to MM and RM like pros , also by time we will understand the behavior of the market , then we can play it S/R again .

sorry guys if my words seems like am the enemy , i swear to god all what i mean is helping you all and show you how the picture is clear

cheeeers

again wish me luck in the UJ deal
  • #2,852
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:20am Sep 16, 2009 8:20am
Since the Uj short was an advanced trade most of us have no business chasing it. I'm sure Vic will teach us when the time comes.

I like the idea of scaling down the pairs we watch so as to learn price action on ichi better and better. Presently I'm quilty of watching 13 pairs. There's no way I'll really closely see the ichi action on this many. Its hard to turn loose of the rest of them but Eu, Gu, Au, Uj are the ones I'm thinking I will memorize every move they make, and I can always pull up another one temporarily when someone throws out a trade to chase. Seems like a good plan for me.

Heck, one day we might see the S/R trade coming before Vic throws it out there for us...

Excited to be learning...

Steve
  • #2,853
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:23am Sep 16, 2009 8:23am
Quoting stevewide
Since the Uj short was an advanced trade most of us have no business chasing it. I'm sure Vic will teach us when the time comes.

I like the idea of scaling down the pairs we watch so as to learn price action on ichi better and better. Presently I'm quilty of watching 13 pairs. There's no way I'll really closely see the ichi action on this many. Its hard to turn loose of the rest of them but Eu, Gu, Au, Uj are the ones I'm thinking I will memorize every move they make, and I can always pull up another one temporarily when someone throws out...
yes nothing is better than following one pair , i have been following USD JPY and EUR JPY for more than 1 year now it helped me a lot , this is why i was asking everyone here to pick up a pair and make us reports about it , o am sure this will be very helpful for him and for everyone in here.

think again guys about pickin a pair and report it
  • #2,854
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:26am Sep 16, 2009 8:26am
enough of UJ.. lets start hunting for the next opportunities and not discuss our recent failure!
  • #2,855
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:27am Sep 16, 2009 8:27am
Quoting vic_elc
no worries mate , am holding it , this was the first test for the daily Support and such kind of move was expected also the Ks 4hrs is to hold for now i think

thanks for the advise

cheeeers
Flat TS M5 with you too, now.. I believe you have the green pip before night fall. Will to sleep..

Enjoy..
Better a realistic small pip than a fantasy big pip
  • #2,856
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:29am Sep 16, 2009 8:29am
I am going to re-enter USD/JPY (short) as soon as TK and SK cross and the price is below the Kumo on the 15m TF. I got over 50 pips on it already earlier this morning and that cross could be good for another 50 pips if 30m and 1hr follow.

So Vic is still in a good trade in my opinion.
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  • #2,857
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:29am Sep 16, 2009 8:29am
Quoting vic_elc
well this deal was S/R and the stop was supposed to be the next resistance level which is 91.6x . the S/R game is very risky and needs very tide money management, this why i was saying we shall be going now for cross signals till we all be able to MM and RM like pros , also by time we will understand the behavior of the market , then we can play it S/R again .

sorry guys if my words seems like am the enemy , i swear to god all what i mean is helping you all and show you how the picture is clear

cheeeers

again wish me luck in the UJ deal
Would you be able to show the chart of what you were looking at when you jumped into the S/R trade at 90.65? I'm just curious to see the S/R levels on there

Thanks

FkFx
p.s. GL on the trade Vic.
  • #2,858
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:29am Sep 16, 2009 8:29am
Quoting $maker
enough of UJ.. lets start hunting for the next opportunities and not discuss our recent failure!
GJ will retrace for a 30min short?
EG possible 30min LONG
EU possible 30min LONG

?
  • #2,859
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:32am Sep 16, 2009 8:32am
Quoting fkforex
Would you be able to show the chart of what you were looking at when you jumped into the S/R trade at 90.65? I'm just curious to see the S/R levels on there

Thanks

FkFx
p.s. GL on the trade Vic.
this was the Ts 1Hr when i jumped was the first test for this level
  • #2,860
  • Sep 16, 2009 8:37am Sep 16, 2009 8:37am
guys

i'll disappear for 2 Hrs , will go to eat and then towards my bloody work , i have a night shift so i'll be on all the Asian session .
wishing you all the luck

cheers
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