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  • #321
  • Jul 9, 2009 4:55pm Jul 9, 2009 4:55pm
Quoting pgtips
I dipped in this thread a while ago after some (several) problems with Alpari which really exasperated me to the point I couldn't stay with them anymore, it was stressing me out big time and I've always maintained, forex is a hard game, you don't need added problems thrown in by a broker (freezing, slips, poor customer service etc)
Alpari have their place and are good for most but not for me, trading is my job, I need to know where i am - imagine getting up for work in the morning and your keys have moved, or your car has been moved and you end...
can u tell more about the Collective? How much for average trade( 1 standard lot on Eur/Usd) Do they charge commision ? Do they have monthy fee? Any "mystery Spikes"? Thnks
FF = Forex Faggots
  • #322
  • Jul 9, 2009 5:32pm Jul 9, 2009 5:32pm
Quoting 8fingers
can u tell more about the Collective? How much for average trade( 1 standard lot on Eur/Usd) Do they charge commision ? Do they have monthy fee? Any "mystery Spikes"? Thnks
http://www.thecollectivefx.com/html/open_account.html
  • #323
  • Jul 9, 2009 5:54pm Jul 9, 2009 5:54pm
Hi Everyone,

Recently, due to the NFA FIFO rule, MT4 traders in the USA may need to shift their account to broker in other countries.

I have a question about TAX:

If one (USA citizens or NON-UK citizen) transfers his account to an UK broker,
would he facing the heavy UK tax rate or foreign investors are immune to the
UK tax ?

Thanks in advance

David
  • #324
  • Jul 9, 2009 7:15pm Jul 9, 2009 7:15pm
Thank u Fulltime247. seems about 150. to 500 monthley- no spread and no commision? interesting. This means no lazy traders please. If you are serious trader this could be the way to go. Sorry for off topic post.
FF = Forex Faggots
  • #325
  • Aug 20, 2009 9:38am Aug 20, 2009 9:38am
Hi Alpari UK has recently changed their spread to "variable". So last night I checked my Metatrader Journal and found 100+ entries like this: I am reviewing my Journal log on Mt4 and I am shocked to see LOADs of messages for FAPT and Megadroid in ALL the pairs! 2009.08.20 00:03:03 Fapturbo47 GBPCHF,M15: Current spread = 0.00172, MaxSpread = 0.00100 2009.08.20 04:30:18 Fapturbo47 EURGBP,M15: Current spread = 0.00077, MaxSpread = 0.00050 2009.08.19 23:38:08 Fapturbo47 GBPCHF,M15: Fapturbo will try again later when spreads come to normal. 2009.08.20 00:34:50 Fapturbo47 GBPCHF,M15: Trade signal is missed due to invalid high spread. 2009.08.20 08:30:24 MegaDroid EURUSD,H1: Strategy1: Safe spread limit exceeded: spread = 72 Not impressed, the USDCAD was at 12.2 at some point, no way to scalp. And the EURUSD stood at 7.3 for a long time. And lovely GBPCHF at 17.2!! So if you intend to scalp the Asian session get ready for this.
  • #326
  • Aug 20, 2009 6:40pm Aug 20, 2009 6:40pm
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting Fulltime247
http://www.thecollectivefx.com/html/open_account.html

Hi,
are u trading with them?
  • #327
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:39pm Aug 20, 2009 7:39pm
I'm not trading with Collective FX yet - They're moving accounts to Deutsche Bank - YaY!!! but as soon as they finish they will reopen new account signup. The spreads are incredible. I've been demoing them and talking to their engineers the last couple months - Seems to be a great service where you can finally stop worrying about nasty broker tricks. Finallly!! My EA's work better with them too - Since they dont smooth the data indicators are more accurate.
  • #328
  • Aug 20, 2009 8:39pm Aug 20, 2009 8:39pm
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting Fulltime247
I'm not trading with Collective FX yet - They're moving accounts to Deutsche Bank - YaY!!! but as soon as they finish they will reopen new account signup. The spreads are incredible. I've been demoing them and talking to their engineers the last couple months - Seems to be a great service where you can finally stop worrying about nasty broker tricks. Finallly!! My EA's work better with them too - Since they dont smooth the data indicators are more accurate.
thx. good news. plz keep us updated, when going live.
  • #329
  • Edited 10:26pm Aug 24, 2009 9:30pm | Edited 10:26pm
Quoting airplus
Hi...
I found their spreads very high the first day they introduced this but they seem to have improved since. I've seen from 2.5 to 5 pips today on cable during Asian session, so much better than the 10-15 I was seeing on the first day they started it.

(Sorry, not sure why it cut the quote back to just "Hi"(!!) - I was answering post 326 above)

EDIT: I've now had three trades where it says I have to wait for an answer from a dealer which "might take a while". One on Friday and two just now. I'm not sure whether they think I am George Soros trading incognito but I'm only dealing in micro lots! I did ask them what was going on when it first happened on Friday and they said they had no idea why it had happened and they only normally did that for large orders like 50 standard lots. They are still doing it today though...
  • #330
  • Aug 25, 2009 9:00am Aug 25, 2009 9:00am
Too bad that Alpari.co.uk does not accepting customers
from USA.
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  • #331
  • Aug 25, 2009 4:28pm Aug 25, 2009 4:28pm
I wouldn't feel too sorry about that. I am still expericencing this stupid "Please wait for dealer's answer. This may take a while", message on every single trade I place now. Sometimes it will only be there for a split second but other time it just hangs and does in fact take quite a while. I have only been using this account live for the last week and I cannot believe that they actually need to put micro lots through to a dealer for confirmation, before filling my orders.

I have sent numerous emails and made several phone calls but they deny they are doing anything strange with my account so I am at a bit of a loss now. I guess I will have to find another broker, which is annoying as I am in Thailand and my registered address and bank is in the UK so I have to get recent statements sent out here etcetera.

If that Alpari poster is still floating about then please note that I am one very unhappy customer. I have another data feed and that has been working abosouletely fine the whole time I have been having problems with Alpari.
  • #332
  • Aug 25, 2009 5:09pm Aug 25, 2009 5:09pm
Just my own experience:

I have been running a few EA's that are not particularly execution intensive on a UK SWVPS using Alpari UK and everything has been fine...checking performance against other people using different brokers our trades pretty much match up...this is on live accounts...

I also use an account for manual trading (hourly / daily) and have been happy...

I would recommend them as a starter account...
Hope is not a trading strategy
  • #333
  • Aug 26, 2009 4:58am Aug 26, 2009 4:58am
Quoting ukmanthailan
I wouldn't feel too sorry about that. I am still expericencing this stupid "Please wait for dealer's answer. This may take a while", message on every single trade I place now. Sometimes it will only be there for a split second but other time it just hangs and does in fact take quite a while. I have only been using this account live for the last week and I cannot believe that they actually need to put micro lots through to a dealer for confirmation, before filling my orders.

I have sent numerous emails and made several phone calls but they deny...
Hello,

We are sorry that you are not happy with our services.

"Please wait for dealer's answer. This may take a while" does not look like something generated by our system.

If the exact message says “Trade context is busy” then it is generated by your client terminal not our server and may be caused by your Expert Advisors. This error message can occur when two (or more) Expert Advisors try to trade simultaneously. If this is the case then you would need to synchronise them to get to the root of the problem . To get rid of the error right after it appears you need to restart MetaTrader.

To investigate this further please send email to [email protected] attention to Anna. Please quote your account number and exact error message you are getting. I am sure this issue can be resolved as all orders on micro server are executed automatically and you should not be experiencing delays in execution. 99.6% of all orders on micro and classic servers are executed in milliseconds therefore if there is a problem with execution it is usually related to EA or internet connection.


Regards,
Alpari UK
  • #334
  • Aug 26, 2009 5:55am Aug 26, 2009 5:55am
Alpari why is your US counterpart sooo crappy!! Why are their stop level 2x the UK version. Why do they requote to death? (they're newer so I would figure they have newer servers) - What is the relation of US and UK Alpari's (its GOTTA be the black sheep brother/cousin/nephew or else why would Alpari UK loan their good name to this weak bucket shop) - Who are these US turds!? Thnx!!
  • #335
  • Edited 5:04pm Aug 27, 2009 4:52pm | Edited 5:04pm
@ Alpari

The exact message is exactly what I quoted above.
Quote
Please wait for dealer's answer. This may take a while
I don't use EAs, I don't place pending orders, I don't fiddle about with stop loss or take profit so the trades couldn't be more simple.

Thanks for taking the time to reply though.

One thing you said that I don't understand - If the message is not generated by your system then where is it coming from?

Thanks

Mark

EDIT: To be completely fair, I should point out that this is the only problem I have encountered with Alpari's service and I concede that it is possible that it could be something to do with the internet connection. The fact that my other feed does not have any issues led me to conclude that it wasn't a problem at my end but that feed comes from another country so it is still a possibility that there is a delay somewhere along the line from here to the UK.

I have deposited money and withdrawn money with no hassles and the customer service people have answered all my emails within an hour of me sending them, and are generally polite and helpful over the telephone.

(Just to give a balanced account of my experiences)
  • #336
  • Aug 28, 2009 12:48pm Aug 28, 2009 12:48pm
Hi,

I use a live account at Alpari UK., using 3 different EAs and some manual tradng. There are no problems with requotes, spread widening trange messages and such things. I'm very happy with tehm. (and withdrawals also very fas and no problems)
  • #337
  • Sep 1, 2009 3:32am Sep 1, 2009 3:32am
Quoting ukmanthailan
@ Alpari

One thing you said that I don't understand - If the message is not generated by your system then where is it coming from?
Hello,

Error messages can be generated by our server, your client terminal (usually it just gives an error number) or Expert Advisor.
  • #338
  • Sep 1, 2009 3:40am Sep 1, 2009 3:40am
Quoting Fulltime247
Alpari why is your US counterpart sooo crappy!! Why are their stop level 2x the UK version. Why do they requote to death? (they're newer so I would figure they have newer servers) - What is the relation of US and UK Alpari's (its GOTTA be the black sheep brother/cousin/nephew or else why would Alpari UK loan their good name to this weak bucket shop) - Who are these US turds!? Thnx!!
Hello

Alpari US and Alpari UK are two different companies which share Alpari name because they have the same shareholders. Alpari US is regulated by the NFA and Alpari UK is regulated by the Financial Services Authorities in the UK therefore Alpari US's terms and conditions of trading may be different from Alpari UK's.
  • #339
  • Sep 1, 2009 4:05am Sep 1, 2009 4:05am
Quoting Alpari
Hello

Alpari US and Alpari UK are two different companies which share Alpari name because they have the same shareholders. Alpari US is regulated by the NFA and Alpari UK is regulated by the Financial Services Authorities in the UK therefore Alpari US's terms and conditions of trading may be different from Alpari UK's.
Thnx!! for the answer. UK is pretty much the Gold Standard as far as Non-ECN brokers go. I read the UK forum and know that UK has spread and occasional requote issues also but the operation seems to be more customer driven. I don't like Market Makers as a rule since my wins have the possibility of becoming your losses and that places us at odds with each other but I think the UK operation is one of the better MM's. (What I dont understand is why UK doesnt go ECN and eliminate the conflict but thats another discussion for another time...) - Thanks again for the response.
  • #340
  • Sep 2, 2009 4:32am Sep 2, 2009 4:32am
A quick update on my wait for dealer to answer message. It still happens but now the trade is going through beforehand anyway - i.e. I close a trade, the dialog box says waiting for dealer to answer but I can see in the terminal window that it has already been closed so while it's a bit annoying it isn't affecting my trades.
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