3,987% in 8 months

Hiyo,

It appears that Dial is willing to let this whole mess slide, so I guess that's the least I can do as well. I apologize for blasting you with my technicolor post (looks like Walt Disney threw up on both of us, huh? : ). I was really pissed at you, not as much for your "fonty" posts, but mostly because I felt you were being very disrespectful toward Dial, even though you kept mentioning in your post that there were no bad feelings between you and Dial, your LOUD posts made a mockery of those statements. You wouldn't even mention him by name. You kept referring to him as your "colleague" and that pissed me off even more. Why? Because of all the fine people on this forum, I like Dial the absolute best because he has helped me a great deal and not only me but many others on the factory. His desire to help newbies, and to protect them from harm while they are learning is really sweet and I admire the Hell out of Dial for that.

Okay, Hiyo, lets put all this crap behind us and move on. As long as you can behave yourself, I do kinda think you might have something very valuable to contribute to forex factory.

Dial! You are the best, and I love you for it. Don't ever change buddy!!!

Michele UU (with a handshake for Hiyo, and a big hug and kiss for Dial)

I am new to the forum and this is my first post. I have been learning how to trade Forex since February. What a great opportunity to make some money and what a risk! It seems to be an exciting opportunity and I am looking forward to the journey.

I have been trading a demo account and have now graduated to a live account as of September. It is a whole lota difference when you start trading the real thing. But we are percevering and just trading one lot to get the technique down.

I have really enjoyed this forum and especially this thread to help me understand the benefits and pitfalls of trading high leverage accounts. I want to thank both hiyo and diallist for their insight and experience. And especially your concern for us beginners to help protect us from self-destructing.

I look forward to continuing to learn how to become an effective Forex trader and having great discussions on this forum as well.

To all of our success in FOREX!

gdkwest

Thanks, Michele. I keep learning. The funny thing is that I thought I was complimenting Dial. I thought he raised a serious issue that deserved greater attention by the membership than it would get just as a reply to a reply in another thread. And I didn't mention him by name specifically not to create the "me versus him" notion and I acknowledged several times that he could be right and I wrong (although, of course, admittedly, I didn't think so, but the possibility is nonetheless present.) Alas, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Motives are misconstrued. And it wasn't him I was getting worked up at. It was the fact that a thread I opened to instigate a discussion of the serious issue of whether newbies should be forbidden to read about high or super-high leverage on this website for their own good had deteriorated somehow into a seminar on the seemingly endless question of whether Hiyo is a no good wretch out to sell us something. NOBODY WAS ADDRESSING THE ISSUE THAT DIAL HAD RAISED AND I HAD CREATED THE THREAD TO GET A DISCUSSION GOING ABOUT!

I agreed with him that it was a serious issue and a problem. I agreed with him that ignorant newbies playing around with super-high leverage is very dangerous to them. I was glad he raised the issue and sought to give it a much wider currency. I simply disagreed diametrically on every level with his approach to a solution to the problem. I draw a clear distinction between a person and their ideas. I may disagree with your ideas -- even very strongly and passionately -- on this or that but that doesn't prevent me from 1) Liking you as a person; 2) Respecting you as a person: and 3) Realizing that there is always a possibility that you might be right and I wrong.

And as for your post, I thought it was a beautiful, strong, colorful, exciting and forthright post. It was anything but dull! It was neither ambiguous, obscure, nor shy and retiring. I was certainly left in no doubt whatsoever what your position was about me (which had become the dominant theme of the thread anyway by that time)! It lacked not for clarity! The time you took to alternate colors on each word was awesome! It was like a carnival, replete with balloons, clowns and dancing bears! Bland writing bores me to tears! Great writing is electric! And your post was certainly electric!

Anyway, as you say, time to put it to bed. I don't think either Merlin or Fiji has any immediate plans to create a "Red-Light District" on the website where adult 4X traders in raincoats can sign in to talk about super-high leverage without offending the virgin eyes and brains of our newbie colleagues. So, in the last analysis, the point is finally moot.

Peace.

hiyo

Exactly. And believe it or not, I understood that. Like FXCM or some of these others run courses they charge serious bucks for you to attend and these things start at the beginning and progress to more complex levels. And that is a good idea. A menu selection that said "Forex School" here would be very nice where training could be offered in a structured way. But even in such a structured environment, the syllabus of the higher courses is available at all times and you can find out that it discusses this or that topic. But as you say, in the forum proper, we should be free to discuss all topics. Suppose I posted here and said something like: "I think everybody should trade at 400-1 leverage all the time, and the less you know about it, the better, because the less you'll have to worry about, and don't worry about it anyway because there's absolutely no danger, you'll be as safe as a baby in a crib and you'll make mountains of money overnight!" do you have any doubt whatsoever that a dozen posters would descend on that thread en masse to present strongly counter-vailing views?

Error can be tolerated so long as truth is left free to combat it because truth has a force of its own forever denied to falsehood. Although the technicalities were different, essentially they threw Gallileo into prison for agreeing with Copernicus that the earth traveled around the sun, not vice-versa. But the truth is the truth notwithstanding. And if you were an astronaut prepared to risk your life in a spaceship, I'm sure you would much prefer to have people in Mission Control who accepted the idea that the earth goes around the sun rather than a bunch of people who refused to believe it because their Holy Book, The Chronicles of Zod, commanded them to! Truth has a force of its own forever denied to falsehood.

On the internet recently, I saw a picture of a sign outside someone's house which said: "Right is right. Wrong is wrong. A lie is a lie. And the truth is the truth." I thought that was pretty profound.

hiyo