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  • #621
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:26am Aug 20, 2009 10:26am
Quoting Thierry89
It was the reason of my question from my previous post #590
How to determine a range market as today with your ichimoku system vic_elc ?
I don't like the conflict between the time frames. if you look at it - you can tell what boundries we need to break on each chart. Then you watch the candles go up and come down and it drags on. At a glance we are still flying withing cloud range etc.

You can also tell by putting an order in and 12 hours later it is the same!!! lol
  • #622
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:27am Aug 20, 2009 10:27am
side by side candles-not good
  • #623
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:29am Aug 20, 2009 10:29am
Quoting lbtrader
I really get you vic, in fact I have two 22 in monitors and my laptop wired together on my desk and I monitor all the TF. I was just trying to cruch a bit more space in order to watch another pair or two
hahahahha don't be greedy man haha
keep it up
cheers
  • #624
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:31am Aug 20, 2009 10:31am
Quoting calderone
I don't like the conflict between the time frames. if you look at it - you can tell what boundries we need to break on each chart. Then you watch the candles go up and come down and it drags on. At a glance we are still flying withing cloud range etc.

You can also tell by putting an order in and 12 hours later it is the same!!! lol

yes this is an easy way , if the small TFs are in conflict this means a range market , if we are inside the cloud this means a range market , if we are betwen Kijun and Tenken this means also a range market

thanks Calderone
  • #625
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:34am Aug 20, 2009 10:34am
Bollinger bands is a good range indicator
What do you think to use it?
  • #626
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:38am Aug 20, 2009 10:38am
Thanks for your posts and explanations vic.
I see thet you do not like crosses in the cloud (or I guess on the wrong side of the cloud). I guess only option then is to reenter on a smaler 1m TF, or wait for a pullback. I have noticed thet price pulls back betwen Tenkan and Kijun and then continues in the sem direction braking Tenkan. Is this also a valide entery?

Sasa
  • #627
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:44am Aug 20, 2009 10:44am
As I see it, in rangig market you have one of the 4 parameters out of sink, and they are all around, in, no out, actualy on wrong side,...hm, of the cloud. You can not get them in line for a buy/sell signal.
Just my picture of it.
Sasa

Quoting Thierry89
It was the reason of my question from my previous post #590
How to determine a range market as today with your ichimoku system vic_elc ?
  • #628
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:47am Aug 20, 2009 10:47am
Quoting vic_elc
yes this is an easy way , if the small TFs are in conflict this means a range market , if we are inside the cloud this means a range market , if we are betwen Kijun and Tenken this means also a range market

thanks Calderone
yes I like your idea about the cloud and Kijun/Tenken.
Sorry for my basic question about your system vic_elc but I am trader for more than 4 years now and I've never worked with the Ichimoku.
It is so great to learn again and again
  • #629
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:49am Aug 20, 2009 10:49am
Quoting sasavisnic67
As I see it, in rangig market you have one of the 4 parameters out of sink, and they are all around, in, no out, actualy on wrong side,...hm, of the cloud. You can not get them in line for a buy/sell signal.
Just my picture of it.
Sasa

Well said. Thats what I think too. Ranging markets are a good way to throw money away unless the range is big enough to scalp.
  • #630
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:50am Aug 20, 2009 10:50am
Quoting sasavisnic67
Thanks for your posts and explanations vic.
I see thet you do not like crosses in the cloud (or I guess on the wrong side of the cloud). I guess only option then is to reenter on a smaler 1m TF, or wait for a pullback. I have noticed thet price pulls back betwen Tenkan and Kijun and then continues in the sem direction braking Tenkan. Is this also a valide entery?

Sasa
yes some go with it like this , but me no i promised my self that i'll go only with the string cross so i'll try to keep my promise as much as i can , and the crosses never end

you may check the video in the Ichi wikki site it will help you a lot
cheers
  • #631
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:53am Aug 20, 2009 10:53am
Quoting Thierry89
yes I like your idea about the cloud and Kijun/Tenken.
Sorry for my basic question about your system vic_elc but I am trader for more than 4 years now and I've never worked with the Ichimoku.
It is so great to learn again and again
noooooo, no need to be sorry it is ok am here to help ,please feel free to ask about any thing at any time , i hope you likes the way Ichi works and the thread is going

keep it up
wishing you a nice day
  • #632
  • Aug 20, 2009 11:08am Aug 20, 2009 11:08am
Quoting calderone
Ranging markets are a good way to throw money away unless the range is big enough to scalp.
I agree with you calderone and the range market eur/usd was very profitable today
  • #633
  • Aug 20, 2009 11:11am Aug 20, 2009 11:11am
Quoting Thierry89
I agree with you calderone and the range market eur/usd was very profitable today

Good for you!

I'm not slick enough to scalp so I stay away.

I will be away for a week but you guys have good trades and post your charts so I can learn something when I come back!

  • #634
  • Aug 20, 2009 11:22am Aug 20, 2009 11:22am
BIG BOYZZZ

Sorry i feel so sleepy , i have to get some rest , i'll be on again tomorrow from early morning 4 AM GMT , meanwhile i wish you all the best

enjoy this funny one

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keep it up BIG BOYYZZZZ
  • #635
  • Aug 20, 2009 12:55pm Aug 20, 2009 12:55pm
Would you take this trade?
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  • #636
  • Edited 8:21pm Aug 20, 2009 7:15pm | Edited 8:21pm
Quoting realnovice
Would you take this trade?
Hi there,

Based on your chart, it looks like a Tenkan-Kijun crossover happening. However, compare your chart to the one below: there's no cross-over happening! As as it turned out, the previous BULL crossover (from 7+hrs ago) is still valid as price action still climbing. (Spoke too soon, corrective price action: dipped to 134.07 at time of writing, however, on EUR/USD price is still holding stable for long)

You may want to double check your settings. I'm at work so I cant refer to my MT4 settings at home (so there's a possibility your settings are the same as mine), but the chart I've used comes from the the free one from http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/charts-panel/ with the standard Ichimoku overlay. What you dont want is false crossover signals based settings that are slightly off.

EDIT: Sorry, I just realised that your chart is Guppy, not Yuppy. My bad!! Bear in mind I trade EUR/USD and Yuppy, so I wouldn't have enter into your trade in any event, but see the updated chart for what I would have done in theory.
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Thank you Crucial Point, Bleek, Trizzle, Darkstar
  • #637
  • Aug 20, 2009 9:06pm Aug 20, 2009 9:06pm
Man there isn't much of anything going on out there tonight...

Good Trading... (but not tonight or not yet anyway...)
fxcobes
  • #638
  • Aug 20, 2009 11:03pm Aug 20, 2009 11:03pm
Hello all

This is my first post and my 1st trade using this system. Nice pips! I took +50 pips of a half position and let the other run to 150 pips (132.23).

Thanks!
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  • #639
  • Edited 11:33pm Aug 20, 2009 11:21pm | Edited 11:33pm
hi
this s a strange pair , since i couldn't find anything where i could trade on 5 min chart and jap pair are really wired i entered this one on 4 h chart . for the moment it is ok and im + 45 pip
i entered at the breakout of the cloud the breakout was confirmed by chinchou span below the price 26 candle ago . and we have switch in position of sankou span . i have plaed my stop loss at swing high and i will move to the upper cloud line once i have if i have a cross and i beleive it should be on the way .
regards

NB : for new guys reading this thread in order not to get confused these are not the rules as presented by MASTER VIC , but it is a way to trade ichimoku
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  • #640
  • Aug 20, 2009 11:35pm Aug 20, 2009 11:35pm
Hi vic

I can see cross up inside the cloud in H 1 BUT i can also see cross down in
daily above the cloud

Confusion

Above post of yesterday 20/08/09

The answer

The buy of GJ YESTERDAY was a medium term buy in H 1 BUT there were sellers sitting out their big time based on cross down in daily

Still the daily has cross down
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