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  • #21
  • Aug 14, 2009 11:23pm Aug 14, 2009 11:23pm
ok how about all other weeks you have using this system ?


ok so you are winning with you system but that is not my question i am wondering what you have for hit rate in procent i like to calculate how mutch i shall risk in every trade. I dont mean to be rude even if it sound like that

best regards
  • #22
  • Edited 11:38pm Aug 14, 2009 11:24pm | Edited 11:38pm
Quoting jgadefelth
vic elc what is you hit rate what how often do you do a winning trade in percent compare to losing ones ?

best regards

Hello

to be honest i was in the losers side till last month , and the reason was the 4Hrs chart , it might takes you ages to have a good signal on the 4Hrs but as i human i couldn't wait so i used to enter on S/R levels and i lose , but for the last couple of weeks i was using only the 5 mins chart and i didn't lose any trade so far , i know that i'll lose one or two very soon , but i think with ichi we can achieve the point of 85% very easy so i'll keep trying keep posting my deals in here and i am sure Ichi is wonderful and will do it for me , Wish me luck please

wishing you all the best

P.S. please check my last post it wil show you all my last week deals
  • #23
  • Aug 14, 2009 11:29pm Aug 14, 2009 11:29pm
Quoting jgadefelth
ok how about all other weeks you have using this system ?


ok so you are winning with you system but that is not my question i am wondering what you have for hit rate in procent i like to calculate how mutch i shall risk in every trade. I dont mean to be rude even if it sound like that

best regards
NoOoo feel free my friend ask whatever you want we are here to help each other
regarding my money management i can assure you that after 2 years in the forex market nothing is better than 2.5% and once you become successful with a system you can go till 5% but never never never never never risk more than 5% , don't be a dreamer and think of entering a deal with 50% to achieve 100% of your money in 1 day , if you are greedy you lose , if you are trader you will win

feel free to ask about any thing even if it was personal
cheeers
  • #24
  • Aug 14, 2009 11:31pm Aug 14, 2009 11:31pm
jgadefelth

regarding the other weeks , you name me the day i get you the signal
  • #25
  • Aug 15, 2009 1:12am Aug 15, 2009 1:12am
hi
and first i want to thank you for opening this thread . as it is a very interesting system and no body has really go into it to explore it's potential .
i would like to ask you about the signal you are taking since there are many kind of signal this Ichimoku Kinko Hyo can generate, are you using TENKEN SEN /KIJUN SEN CROSS or KIJUN SEN CROSS or breakout of the cloud?

maybe you go ahead and u give us a study case so we look at the way you are trading this system
and by the way show us why for EJ you will only be looking for short next week .
best regards
  • #26
  • Aug 15, 2009 1:30am Aug 15, 2009 1:30am
Quoting samer960
hi
and first i want to thank you for opening this thread . as it is a very interesting system and
best regards
Hello Samer

regarding the signal i use only the full complete strong signal , this means that this means for a long trade i go when the price is above the cloud (Kumo crossed+ cloud break out ) and then i wait till senken + Kijun cross on the direction of the trend ,also SPAN will be above the price curve , all the charts i provided contain this strong signal and the pic here shows it also .

My entry point will be always after senken kijun cross

regrding the next week i said at the start of the week i'll not look for a long position as long as the price is under the cloud ( it is confirmed in all the TFs ) if the price pops up the cloud i'll look for a long position

feel free to ask about anything
wishing you luck
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  • #27
  • Aug 15, 2009 1:45am Aug 15, 2009 1:45am
hi
thanks for ur reply .
now looking at the EJ daily chart , the price is above the cloud and the leading span A is above B MEANS BULLISH as i understand it , but looking at tf4 H we have the inverse signal . do you look at daily ? or 4h and lower for u is what you are looking for only .
regards
  • #28
  • Aug 15, 2009 1:59am Aug 15, 2009 1:59am
Quoting samer960
hi
thanks for ur reply .
now looking at the EJ daily chart , the price is above the cloud and the leading span A is above B MEANS BULLISH as i understand it ,
regards
good one my friend , i take in my consideration all the TFs even the monthly
if you take a look at the daily chart you'll see price closed under senken line and this will help a pullback to kijun ( as shown i the pic )
if take a look at the weekly chart you'll see price is going to test the senken line and also inside the cloud and this will offer more consolidation ( as shown )
if you take a look the monthly chart you'll notice that the price couldn't break the Kijun line for the whole year ( as shown )

but how cares we are intra day traders we need to trade what is happening today , so i pref to follow the major on 4Hrs and 1Hr , and the 30 mins 15 mins will be my guide during the day
and the 5 mins is the prefect entry

keep it up , keep asking

thanks
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  • #29
  • Aug 15, 2009 2:10am Aug 15, 2009 2:10am
I am trading based on this on small time frame, but I will contribute
during live trades as discussions on higher time frames
  • #30
  • Aug 15, 2009 2:21am Aug 15, 2009 2:21am
HI vic

Chikou Span is above the price curve

Can you little bit explain this in a chart if you dont mind
  • #31
  • Aug 15, 2009 2:22am Aug 15, 2009 2:22am
Quoting harigp
I am trading based on this on small time frame, but I will contribute
during live trades as discussions on higher time frames
thanks for your post , i use Ichi on any time frame with any thing starting from corn to the forex

but my main point about lower TF is that we are not the rich people playing this market , i think High TFs will be good with someone looking for 1000 pip a year , but someone like me poor and have a mini account will be looking for 50 pips a day , but i can assure you if i was working with 1000000$ i'll only look on the daily frame and ignore any other frame , as an example the last EUR USD upmove on the daily chart is shown in the pic

a very very very very safe 1000 pip

wishing you all the luck
cheeeeers
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  • #32
  • Aug 15, 2009 2:29am Aug 15, 2009 2:29am
Quoting harigp
HI vic

Chikou Span is above the price curve

Can you little bit explain this in a chart if you dont mind

being above or below the price curve is a very good signal

The Chikou span is the current price shifted back 26 times , so if we got a long signal and the Span is above the candle this means signal is confirmed
this example might clear it for you, the yellow line i drew in the cahrt shows that the SPAN is above the candle and the signal is a long one so it is confirmed , if still not clear please tell
feel free to ask anything
wishing you luck
cheeers
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  • #33
  • Aug 15, 2009 2:31am Aug 15, 2009 2:31am
Hi vic

I agree with you 100% in fact I am trading this if you dont belive in
M 2 chart.

can you show the question I asked my last post before this
  • #34
  • Aug 15, 2009 3:06am Aug 15, 2009 3:06am
hi vic
thanks for your patience and generosity .
look at this picture , will u short it at this breakout ,? we are having the price curve below the the 26 candle ago , bearich , right ? we have a breakout of the cloud and it is not flat the bottom . but we have the cross above the cloud , what do u think
regards
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  • #35
  • Aug 15, 2009 3:14am Aug 15, 2009 3:14am
Quoting samer960
hi vic
thanks for your patience and generosity .
look at this picture , will u short it at this breakout ,? we are having the price curve below the the 26 candle ago , bearich , right ? we have a breakout of the cloud and it is not flat the bottom . but we have the cross above the cloud , what do u think
regards

BUT WE HAVE THE CROSS ABOVE THE CLOUD , for me this signal is not complete ,why you put your money in something you are not sure of ??!!! , i only put my money in the complete strong signal, we have to think like the big boyz not because we have an account with 100$ means i go with any signal even if it is not complete, also this is one of the main reasons i use 5 mins chart it offers at least 1 complete signal a day so i put my money with it
feel free to ask anything man at any time and thank me this is my duty to pass the info to you
wishing you the best luck
  • #36
  • Aug 15, 2009 3:29am Aug 15, 2009 3:29am
hi again
i think because u are using 5 min tf thats why u need to have all the signals together , like breakout and cross of span and cross of kijun and taken sen .
while in daily TF for example a break out of the cloud could be successful and the mm will give u the same profit , the point is if we wait for all the signals to line up as u want it to be on daily chart we mght have to wait for a month to get a signal.
if you have an account of 1k and u are trading 0.1 lot on A 5 MIN TF waiting for 50 pip , thats 50 $ ,on a daily u can trade 0.01 and get 500 pip and get 50 dollars . just a thought , i am learning from u keep the good work .
thank you
  • #37
  • Aug 15, 2009 3:36am Aug 15, 2009 3:36am
Hi vic

What is your take on this GJ M 5 CHART

The candles are just above the cloud and the yellow line is moving up
will you wait for the yellow line to move above the cloud for taking a long
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  • #38
  • Aug 15, 2009 3:46am Aug 15, 2009 3:46am
Quoting samer960
hi again
i think because u are using 5 min tf thats why u need to have all the signals together , like breakout and cross of span and cross of kijun and taken sen .
while in daily TF for example
thank you
i dont wait for all the signals to come together higher TF like 4Hrs and 1Hr will give me an idea about the trend , and i only enter on 5 Mins signal, if you think a break put on the daily chart is better then take a look at the last 2 breaks for the cloud in EJ , the pic shows only two position , so if you went with the first breakdown you will get like 350 pips and then you will wait for like 2 weeks till the second break up and you will get around another 350 pips , during this 2 weeks on the 5 mins chart we could make 800 pip and this is the point , instead of waiting ages for a signal which might be false i go with a strong signal and take only 50 pip per day , as i told you before if i have 1000000$ account i'll work only on the daily chart and will also wait for the complete signal , i think when chi was designed it was designed to be totally used not only to use one signal or 2 signals , if we used the total signals we will assure that our deal will be ok, and our money is in the correct place
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  • #39
  • Aug 15, 2009 3:51am Aug 15, 2009 3:51am
Quoting harigp
Hi vic

What is your take on this GJ M 5 CHART

The candles are just above the cloud and the yellow line is moving up
will you wait for the yellow line to move above the cloud for taking a long
for me i'll not go in this deal , i love to enter only with complete strong signal ,
some others use the cloud break out as a signal , some use the Kijun ( blue) break out as a signal . but i pref to put my money with the complete signal else i'll stay aside watching the market . or i search in any other pair for a complete signal

P.S. you can deal any pair with a strong signal better than dealing a pair with a weak signal
  • #40
  • Aug 15, 2009 3:54am Aug 15, 2009 3:54am
hi my friend
i dont think we need the yellow line to be above the cloud , it has to be above the candle 26 candle ago and in your case it is above . maybe i am mistaken , please correct me .
Quoting harigp
Hi vic

What is your take on this GJ M 5 CHART

The candles are just above the cloud and the yellow line is moving up
will you wait for the yellow line to move above the cloud for taking a long
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