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  • #41
  • Edited 10:20pm Aug 5, 2009 10:11pm | Edited 10:20pm
Hi again Tonyj,

Once more, thank you for your kind and generous free gift of sharing your trading method, gathered after many years of battle.
I would imagine you have a few scars to prove some of the battles were hard fought.
It is a great tribute to you, to know you've won the war, and can now share your wisdom.

I have downloaded MetaTrader and await further marching orders.

Wait a sec...What's that sound in the darkness? A twig just broke, out past the parameter, and I'm crouched behind a boulder with sweat rolling down my forehead. I have to admit as I cross myself and kiss my trigger finger, that I don't want to be the next one hanging from that Cross disguised as a pivot point .

Cheers

LR
LR
  • #42
  • Aug 6, 2009 1:34am Aug 6, 2009 1:34am
Hi there Tonyj
I have attaced a chart ( and yes I understand Pivot point )
I am not so far as to working out the dot,but If you can have a look as to my current progress...If you have problem seeing chart just click on the attached image and it will open niece and big

Highly appreciated..
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  • #43
  • Aug 6, 2009 2:56pm Aug 6, 2009 2:56pm
Quoting Mgh
Hi Tonyj,

Have followed your instructions, and enjoy your campfire stories.
My first stock recomendation was given to me by John Wayne, Duke, as we called him.

Now Pivot savvy
Ready for the next round to begin

Cheers,

LR

And how did the stock do?
ciao,
tonyj
  • #44
  • Aug 6, 2009 3:14pm Aug 6, 2009 3:14pm
Don't know if this will work...I'm a dunce at this kind of stuff. But I have
an indicator on my MetaTrader which is Dot and Envelope. Will try to
upload it here.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 DGBL ENVELOPE[1].MQ4   3 KB | 1,344 downloads


Has this worked?
  • #45
  • Aug 6, 2009 3:23pm Aug 6, 2009 3:23pm
Quoting Jadefoxx_1
Hi there Tonyj
I have attaced a chart ( and yes I understand Pivot point )
I am not so far as to working out the dot,but If you can have a look as to my current progress...If you have problem seeing chart just click on the attached image and it will open niece and big

Highly appreciated..
Jadefoxx: If you will download MetaTrader....and hopefully if I was
successful with an attachment...DGBL ENVELOPE[1]...then you can
follow easier my presentation....
ciao,
Tony
  • #46
  • Aug 6, 2009 3:52pm Aug 6, 2009 3:52pm
Quoting Jadefoxx_1
Hi there Tonyj
I have attaced a chart ( and yes I understand Pivot point )
I am not so far as to working out the dot,but If you can have a look as to my current progress...If you have problem seeing chart just click on the attached image and it will open niece and big

Highly appreciated..
Jadefoxx_1: How did you get the chart attached? As I've mentioned
before I'm a dunce at all this. Please help me with this one....
ciao,
tonyj
  • #47
  • Edited 10:14pm Aug 6, 2009 9:43pm | Edited 10:14pm
Hi Tonyj,

Interesting enough, that stock was a SA mining company called Mineral Engineering, and it doubled then split, so I did quite well indeed. That was somewhere around 1974. I used the money after I sold it to buy an old gold mine in Bisbee AZ. That was a dud, but it was fun to be able to say I owned a gold mine when I sitting around the Copper Queen Hotel bar.

I downloaded the DGBL attachment, but don't know how to transfer it to my MetaTrader Platform, any advice please?

Again, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Cheers

LR
LR
  • #48
  • Aug 6, 2009 10:37pm Aug 6, 2009 10:37pm
Quoting tonyj
How did you get the chart attached?
Here you go Tony. Let us know if you need more help.

Thanks lots for sharing!

Have a great day,
Brent
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  • #49
  • Aug 7, 2009 4:21am Aug 7, 2009 4:21am
Hi Tonyj
Just to add on that when you have a MT 4 chart in front of you just right click on a open space and click on 'Save as picture' then you select 'active chart ( as is ) '

From there you can edit the picture with your own software ( put text on it and as such )

and just follow the previous post as to attache it,..

Regards
  • #50
  • Aug 7, 2009 8:07am Aug 7, 2009 8:07am
Quoting Mgh
Hi Tonyj,

Interesting enough, that stock was a SA mining company called Mineral Engineering, and it doubled then split, so I did quite well indeed. That was somewhere around 1974. I used the money after I sold it to buy an old gold mine in Bisbee AZ. That was a dud, but it was fun to be able to say I owned a gold mine when I sitting around the Copper Queen Hotel bar.

I downloaded the DGBL attachment, but don't know how to transfer it to my MetaTrader Platform, any advice please?

Again, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Cheers...
Mgh: I'm a dunce at this kind of stuff. But one of traders that I've
been helping give me this instruction. I had one hell of a time trying
to locate the e-mail so I could note down this:
My Comp/ Local(c)/ Program Files/ MetaTrader.4/ Epert/ Indicator

I think you then have to crank up MetaTrader.4 again and then go to
the indicator and the program should be there.
Perhaps some other of the guys on this forum can also help....
ciao,
Tony
  • #51
  • Aug 7, 2009 8:11am Aug 7, 2009 8:11am
Quoting Jadefoxx_1
Hi Tonyj
Just to add on that when you have a MT 4 chart in front of you just right click on a open space and click on 'Save as picture' then you select 'active chart ( as is ) '

From there you can edit the picture with your own software ( put text on it and as such )

and just follow the previous post as to attache it,..

Regards
Jadefoxx:
I will try it...I'm not too sure if I really am following you....
ciao,
Tony
  • #52
  • Aug 7, 2009 8:16am Aug 7, 2009 8:16am
Quoting tonyj
Mgh: I'm a dunce at this kind of stuff. But one of traders that I've
been helping give me this instruction. I had one hell of a time trying
to locate the e-mail so I could note down this:
My Comp/ Local(c)/ Program Files/ MetaTrader.4/ Epert/ Indicator

I think you then have to crank up MetaTrader.4 again and then go to
the indicator and the program should be there.
Perhaps some other of the guys on this forum can also help....
ciao,
Tony
That is correct.

If you want to import an expert or indicator, do as you just said while MT4 is NOT switched on. Once you've dragged the indcator (or expert) into the right folder, close the folders and restart MT4. Your new indy/EA should show up in custom indicators.

H. Rearden
  • #53
  • Edited 10:18am Aug 7, 2009 10:03am | Edited 10:18am
Thank you Tony for taking the time and trouble to locate the email for the instructions to put indicators (DGBL) into the MetaTrader Platform, and H Rearden, thanks to you as well.

After a few tries I was successful

What pair(s) are you going to use for your teaching?

Now we await the next round, I've already sharpened my calculator getting ready for all the math.

Have a great weekend

Cheers

LR
LR
  • #54
  • Aug 7, 2009 5:36pm Aug 7, 2009 5:36pm
[quote=Mgh;2939236]Thank you Tony for taking the time and trouble to locate the email for the instructions to put indicators (DGBL) into the MetaTrader Platform, and H Rearden, thanks to you as well.

After a few tries I was successful

What pair(s) are you going to use for your teaching?

Now we await the next round, I've already sharpened my calculator getting ready for all the math.

Have a great weekend

Cheers

Mgh: I'd like to take on EUR/USD as an example...but AUD/USD has
had a nicer trend. Today Aug. 7 (friday)...the dollar took off on the
EUR/USD...because of the job jamboree. So fundamentals has to be
important. Here on forexfactory calendar is a boon. But all this later.
Have you gotten DGBL up on the screen? It would be easier to have
only the 'bar chart'. The DGBL has a red line for the Dot. The Dot
is on the bar as it crosses that. The 'white lines' is the envelope.
Anyway...the most important thing had occurred where the close
went below the Dot (red line)...and I will explain the whole thing.
It's this part that is really "IT". We'll get into it. Words like "Halo"
"Dotted Line", "Block"....that will simplify action of the market like no
others have. Go to your indicator and crank in the Fractal. It'll
appear on your chart....this will be your "Dotted Line". But we have
a long ways to go before you can understand the whole gig. Once
I can learn how to get some explanations on this forum we'll be
off to the races.
ciao,
Tony
  • #55
  • Aug 8, 2009 12:23pm Aug 8, 2009 12:23pm
Hopefully you have up the MetaTrader with the Dot lines and envelopes.
In the old days, we made our own charts. When we put in the Dots...we
would put that 'half way' between the day period. That is 'half way after'
the last trading day, and would before the next day. Here on the Meta-
Trader chart, we have a line (red)...so where the line cross the range...
that's where the Dot is. If the 'close' is below that place where the line
crosses today's range..."you're in BEAR country....or 'sell'. If the 'close'
is above the 'line crosses today's range'...."you're in BULL country"....or
'buy'. Now here is where the lessons start. Look at the whole chart...
go way to your left on the chart. Look at the Dot Line and follow it.
Notice at the parts where the line is pretty straight. That is from 9.07.15
to 9.07.23. But notice at 9.07.17...how slightly it was veering down, ever
so slightly. It's whispering in your ear about something...RIGHT? Again at
9.07.21....all because of the 'close' (one of the Musketeers) started to
look south. From 9.07.23 to 9.07.24 to make sharp turn. All Three
Musketeers drew their swords and shouted..."ON GUARD YOU BASTARDS".
The 'close' went BELOW the Dot (red line). Now here is where you are
going to get "lost", because you have not yet the theory of the 5 kinds
of trade under your belt.(I also forgot to mention that we're in EUR/USD-
Daily). Also...we were in a trend run from 9.07.13, up until 9.07.23. But...
depending on your view (after you are a P&L'er) the first 'up' was on the
9th where the 'close' went above the Dot (line). The 'high' on that day
also became "The Dotted Line"....also "Fractal"...and the "BLOCK'(P&L).
The low on that day became the "HALO" and the day before that, on
the 8th, we have a Fractal (same as Dotted Line). But notice how the
Dotted Line turned. Look.....we're getting way off the line. I only wanted
to show and explain about the Dot and how, what it is telling us. Also,
there will be confusion between the Dot and the "dotted line". In the
case of the P&L in certain places we have a 'isolated high & low' and a
'phantom high and low'. I still have to explain the "lines"...and that is
going to confuse you more than ever. Anyway....right now....just
follow the Dot (line) and observe where the 'close' is in relation to
it. (Man....I don't know about this. Even in person it would be hard.)
ciao,
Tony
  • #56
  • Aug 8, 2009 12:44pm Aug 8, 2009 12:44pm
In the P&L...the pivot point is called the 1-1. It becomes the Dot when it
joins up with two other 1-1 or Musketeers. Now you can get this 1-1 or
pivot-point (pp) on the MetaTrader by going to the 'indicators' and select
'moving averages'....then crank in at the h-l-c/3 slot. With whatever color
you want...it will appear on your chart. You Pivot guys will or should have
a ball with this. Maybe even come up a scheme where you can rob the
bank without even wearing a mask. Better with the mask....then you are
now a Don Juan.
ciao,
tonyj
  • #57
  • Aug 8, 2009 1:25pm Aug 8, 2009 1:25pm
Give up tony unless you start putting screen shots with your stories.

Is not that difficult, print screen, put in msword or something and save the file.
Just attach it to forexfactory.

I am sure if you can trade you can manage that.
  • #58
  • Aug 8, 2009 4:30pm Aug 8, 2009 4:30pm
Quoting spekkiefx
Give up tony unless you start putting screen shots with your stories.

Is not that difficult, print screen, put in msword or something and save the file.
Just attach it to forexfactory.

I am sure if you can trade you can manage that.
Dont mind him Tonyj
If you still have any problems with MT4 please just give a shout
....
Let me explain to you how to attache chart to your forum
1. When you have a chart open in front of you right click on the graph and you'll see a option save as picture
2. Click on that and another option will come on click on the 'active chart (as is )....just save it on your computer to a location you know best
3 When you reply on the forum you'll see the lil paper clip icon click on that and browse to where you save the chart picture...voila
.....it will make it a wee bit easier.... : )
and again please dont give up on us...
  • #59
  • Aug 8, 2009 5:04pm Aug 8, 2009 5:04pm
Quoting Jadefoxx_1
Dont mind him Tonyj
If you still have any problems with MT4 please just give a shout
....
Let me explain to you how to attache chart to your forum
1. When you have a chart open in front of you right click on the graph and you'll see a option save as picture
2. Click on that and another option will come on click on the 'active chart (as is )....just save it on your computer to a location you know best
3 When you reply on the forum you'll see the lil paper clip icon click on that and browse to where you save the chart picture...voila
.....it will...
Jadefoxx, I am glad you see my point

if he can't figure that out maybe u shouldn't believe everything u read

the fourth musketeer
  • #60
  • Aug 9, 2009 9:33am Aug 9, 2009 9:33am
Quoting spekkiefx
Give up tony unless you start putting screen shots with your stories.

Is not that difficult, print screen, put in msword or something and save the file.
Just attach it to forexfactory.

I am sure if you can trade you can manage that.
spekkiefx: touche.....n'est pas? I admit I have an IQ of 1 or 2....
Look....you are intested in quantum trading ideas. I'm not a computer
freak, and I've been in trading field for over 50 years...and I'm still at a
loss even tho I made it in commodities and left it over 25 years ago.
With your quantum ideas....don't know where in the hell you came up
with that one...but we could change ideas since I too am interested in
the 'time factor' related to the market. The 'tick' is the only truth, and
is the only factor alive. I don't know where Mikkom ranges in your own
argument, but I'll give you mine. Price is the function of time...P=f(t).
The 'tick' (pip) is the only truth...it's in all the time frames or periods.
You have 'sitting ducks' in all the time frames, if you know how to find
them. In your program "if (price>3 hr.high....) you go down to...101s up
...? What is 101s? Is it seconds? But getting back to the 'ticks'. IT'S
WHERE IT ALL STARTS.....so why fight it? Everything behind it is the
grave yard....going back into infinity. You have to look at the forex market
different from any of the others. All because of the 24 hour factor. Your
program should take this into consideration...even though you had 0800
to 1200, probably EST. But the greatest money business is at 2 to 4 AM
which takes in London, Frankfort, Singapore, Hongkong and Tokyo. You
have only N.Y., London and Frankfurt at 0800...and at 1100 Frankfurt
drops out. So all you have is New York and London. And London until
noon EST. Some of the worse hours to trade are the Asian time. Again...
the market is a retangular coordinate, thus the logarithm takes place
at all resistance levels and expondentials at the support. Especially
the majors. In the lower time frames it can be 'either' at the open and
immediate. Again in your MM....you should consider asymmetrical
leverage as well. Again...interested in your quantum ideas...but????
ciao,
tonyj
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