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  • #3,401
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:09am Aug 5, 2009 7:09am
Quoting DareXau
ha ha, it's only on this picture (purposely for fun)
in reality on my screen the news indi is away from the current action
By the way long @ 1.4430 - maybe those big green ass candles are not a fade
oh no DX.. I exited exactly at that price for 30 large... your in trouble.. lol.. just kidding.. I just had to take some profit after two days..
  • #3,402
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:09am Aug 5, 2009 7:09am
Quoting fxachilies
I don't mind them hanging on to my nipples if there girls.. lol.. jk

...yes.... but after a while don't your nipples get sore?
Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno
  • #3,403
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:11am Aug 5, 2009 7:11am
Quoting -jo-
And yet, their approach is different. That is why I asked. But no problem. Good trades...
... not very different, just slightly different ... probably as a result of the previous experiences and trading background ...
  • #3,404
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:14am Aug 5, 2009 7:14am
hay DX sorry if this is impolite to ask this, im relatively new to this forum and im still trying to get a feel for it.

Those indi's are they your custom made or are they commercially available and if so where because i can see them to been very usefully to have on a second chart.

Again sorry if this is rude.
  • #3,405
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:20am Aug 5, 2009 7:20am
Quoting -jo-
And yet, their approach is different. That is why I asked. But no problem. Good trades...
Jo,

I understand what you are saying but Feb continues to monitor this thread and he does not have a problem with what is being shared... so each of us needs to extract what works for ourselves. Forex trading imo is like jazz everyone adds their own improvisation to the basic rules of music.

Hang in there Jo.... and good luck
Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno
  • #3,406
  • Edited 7:44am Aug 5, 2009 7:30am | Edited 7:44am
found it

thankyou.
  • #3,407
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:32am Aug 5, 2009 7:32am
Quoting moneda
Feb,

Can you clarify something for me? When is a swing a "fresh" swing? Here is what I faced this morning @around 7am est .... an upswing on the Gbp/uds that started at around 8:45gmt with a few short pullbacks followed by some choppy action. So I ask myself... if I see a new swing of over 20 pips within the major upswing going back to 8:45gmt, will it have enough momentum or should I wait for a significant change of direction (downswing)?

Thanks

Look at this chart:
do you not remember these days Mod,the thread was only 17 pages long at the time, it took you long enough to get off Febs nipples
  • #3,408
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:33am Aug 5, 2009 7:33am
Quoting -jo-
And yet, their approach is different. That is why I asked. But no problem. Good trades...

whatttttttttttttt? my approach is different than feb? how so?
I have tried to keep this thread as to its original as possible.. but we have to move this ship forward and take advantage as our skill keeps improving.. at the same time everyone should know there place.. and thats why lately i stress this so much.. one step out of time..
I can not put the thread on hold.. we have to keep moving and the newcomers should pase themselves.. a lot of guys have learned and figured things out for there own and moved on and are successful at this time and are still silent watchers.. so will you be also one of them and become successful? its up to you.. we got all the tool neccessary for you in here.. ball is in your court..

guys, I could be one of those silent watchers and not care.. but i like to help others to become successful and the idea of giving back is what drives me to live in all aspects of my life.. thats just me, unconditionaly.. My help to you guys does not have a bit of negative effect in my trading nor take me away from sharpening up my skills.. but Moneda is right about the part that spoonfeeding and babysiting will creat back fire in the long term instead of being helpfull.. evetually you need to put the pieces together based on a lot of personal agendas.. these are all brotherly advise my friends.. moneda, DX, Mj.. myself and some others final wish is you success and nothing else..

lets make some more money today.. I missed that bearish fractal breakout..
  • #3,409
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:34am Aug 5, 2009 7:34am
Quoting SlideLow
hay DX sorry if this is impolite to ask this, im relatively new to this forum and im still trying to get a feel for it.
Those indi's are they your custom made or are they commercially available and if so where because i can see them to been very usefully to have on a second chart.
Again sorry if this is rude.
No worries mate, there is no reason to be sorry,
all the indi's you see are from ForexFactory and they're shareware;
you can find them in this thread, 'cos I did post them some time ago (just a few weeks)
  • #3,410
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:40am Aug 5, 2009 7:40am
you guys wanna know why i pushed in the fractal entery into the thread?

if there is enough interest then I will tell you?
  • #3,411
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:44am Aug 5, 2009 7:44am
Quoting fxachilies
you guys wanna know why i pushed in the fractal entery into the thread?

if there is enough interest then I will tell you?

Im interested!!

but which fractical?
  • #3,412
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:48am Aug 5, 2009 7:48am
Quoting FOURX
do you not remember these days Mod,the thread was only 17 pages long at the time, it took you long enough to get off Febs nipples
FOURX,

I am not sure if your point is relevant but when I share my opinion or suggest something in this thread it comes from experiencing most/all the issues confronting any trader. My intention is to make an attempt to lessen the blows not to put myself above anyone else in this thread.

Good luck to you
Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno
  • #3,413
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:49am Aug 5, 2009 7:49am
Quoting fxachilies
oh no DX.. I exited exactly at that price for 30 large... your in trouble.. lol.. just kidding.. I just had to take some profit after two days..
Yes, it turned into a trouble, ... had to eat a bit over than half of the regular stop-loss,
so, balance for today is reduced to just 13 positive once, ... time to start working harder ...
  • #3,414
  • Edited 8:12am Aug 5, 2009 7:55am | Edited 8:12am
Quoting DareXau
... not very different, just slightly different ... probably as a result of the previous experiences and trading background ...
Quoting fxachilies
whatttttttttttttt? my approach is different than feb? how so?
Guys, relax. I did not mean to say that you are straying from Feb's framework - your are not. The difference in your approaches for me is this:

FxAchilles, you are trying to catch runners, you will enter more aggressively, and you don't care about taking small losses, because you're betting on that runner which will come eventually.

DareXau, is what I would call more conservative (with entries). He also likes runners, of course, who doesn't, but judging by the charts, he will let his trades in the market for longer time, taking his 21 pips and moving on to the next setup. He has proabably a higher win/loss ratio than FxAchilles. (Not to be confused with profitability which is something I cannot judge, won't, and to be honest don't care. I believe both are highly profitable.)

That is my observation looking at your charts, and from what you are writing. If I am wrong with my assumptions, then excuse me, I don't mean to offend anybody. But that is the difference I see, you just made Febs framework work for you - yet with different details. That is what makes it interesting for me, and what provides inspiration.
  • #3,415
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:58am Aug 5, 2009 7:58am
Quoting fxachilies
you guys wanna know why i pushed in the fractal entery into the thread?

if there is enough interest then I will tell you?
There is interest.
  • #3,416
  • Aug 5, 2009 7:59am Aug 5, 2009 7:59am
Quoting moneda
FOURX,

I am not sure if your point is relevant but when I share my opinion or suggest something in this thread it comes from experiencing most/all the issues confronting any trader. My intention is to make an attempt to lessen the blows not to put myself above anyone else in this thread.

Good luck to you
hey Mon,

people are always going to ask questions, if theres people out there willing to answer.just like you were doing at the beginning.

I have asked 1 question, because, and as you pointed out,fractals have a criteria, and i could not see it being there

cheers
  • #3,417
  • Aug 5, 2009 8:06am Aug 5, 2009 8:06am
Quoting FOURX
hey Mon,

people are always going to ask questions, if theres people out there willing to answer.just like you were doing at the beginning.

I have asked 1 question, because, and as you pointed out,fractals have a criteria, and i could not see it being there

cheers
FOURX,

I understand...questions are good...introspection puts the icing on the cake. Anytime one asks a question or gives an answer you are bound by the laws of interpretation... to some is old news, to others it may clear something that help them become better traders.

Keep asking ?????s

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno
  • #3,418
  • Aug 5, 2009 8:13am Aug 5, 2009 8:13am
Quoting DareXau
I'm not pointing differences between Feb and us, but slightly different trading approach between fxachiliesand myself.
Yes, I know. It was my mistake how I put the citation in the post. I changed the order, so it is at least chronological.
  • #3,419
  • Aug 5, 2009 8:17am Aug 5, 2009 8:17am
Can anyone confirm that this is valid setup for shorting eur/usd? Also, is my stop loss positioned as it should?

Regards, Zoreli
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  • #3,420
  • Aug 5, 2009 8:21am Aug 5, 2009 8:21am
ok guys,
I am going to answer it..
we got a live example in hand as to why use fractal entery.. now before i get into that i noticed some of you are getting so picky about fractals beings or what it actually is.. the white lines in my charts indicates markets reversal turning points.. thats all.. so call it what you want.. call it fractals or fricking this fricking that.. or here is new one call it fxachilies crazy reversals (FCR.. here we go that works..lol).. fuck I dont know.. the point is the fricking price is indicating a reversal.. so we test the market at that point..

see the chart expelanation.. if i dont get the BB entery early enough.. then either i have to watch it to give me one 80pips down the line.. which it will be very well late sometimes and i could get bottom or toped picked and thats not good.. or i have to just simpley watch a opportunity pass by..
the whole idea is to get in the action early and not to miss opportunities..
if you are in prematurly or getting fakedout.. guess what we got expectancy skill to fight with it.. nice and simple.

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