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  • #2,301
  • Jul 12, 2009 9:14am Jul 12, 2009 9:14am
Quoting wowzers
But if the elite control the markets (money) wouldnt it be naive to think they dont control the world???
I don't think the elite controls the market... I would say several "elites" move the market... not always in the same direction or at the same time.


Quoting wowzers
Do you know that the worlds industry and political leaders meet SECRETLY every year in two different groups sworn to secrecy. Bilderberg Group, and Bohemian Grove??? What do you think they talk about at the Bohemian Grove where leaders stay for 2 weeks???
lol, Bilderberg meetings are known for decades, as are known the locations, the attendees' names, etc.
It's only because there's no press allowed, no final statements issued, that conspiracy theories have appeared.

It started as meetings to discuss the growth of anti-Americanism in Western Europe; and continued as a tradition, to discuss several world issues related to economics, politics, finantial, and so on.

It's a small world and, what about that, I personally know 1 attendee... and am very close to another (leader of one of the biggest and most powerfull countries of Europe) who will probably be attending one soon enough, so... I might carry a gun next time I go visit them, point it to their head, and make them tell me the truth Of course I would have to shoot myself in the end, but at least I would die knowing the big secrets.

Quoting wowzers
They have predicted that in 2009/2010 the American dollar will be dumped. Paper money will be useless.

Coincedently this would be the the same time that Mal sees other currencies go lower. The market, because of derivates will crash.
If you look around, you'll see there's a bunch of people that predict the dollar collapse... no need of any conspiracy theory for that.

Anyway, you'll always find one conspiracy theory to fit a particular event on a particular time.
For me, the manipulators are the ones that feed these conspiracy theories... cause they manipulate the sheep into it, and win money selling it.
  • #2,302
  • Jul 12, 2009 9:17am Jul 12, 2009 9:17am
Quoting supremeChaos
Mayans, early humans predicted the Dec2012 phenomenon, not the recent web bot project.
& by the way, Dec2012 is not the end of the world. according to the Mayans, Dec2012 is just an end of a cycle.
Yes... 4th or 5th of 6 cycles, if I'm not mistaken.
At least that's the interpretation that was given to those findings.
  • #2,303
  • Jul 12, 2009 9:19am Jul 12, 2009 9:19am
Quoting malcolmb14
forget all this doomsday theory ... this great oracle predicts GBP 1.3 test by November of this year
lol
You loved the title I gave you, didn't you?
  • #2,304
  • Jul 12, 2009 9:25am Jul 12, 2009 9:25am
Quoting stewrigh
Na - Parity at least - lol
Curious this idea is.

I remember clearly around 1997 there was a guy in TV talking gay about similar things in a sense of the end of n era. Well he was Hungarian like me and the head of a kind of religious cult. Intresstingly enough he was saying that in 2000 the Lord will appear and send everyone except the true followers to hell. He was most likely not alone with this idea.
Than the reporter asked the guy what would happen to him (the reporter) if he did not believe, did not care about this. Well the guy said with perfect confidence in the TV that well our reporter will be just one of the many in hell.

2000 came and nothing happened in kind. But I was, still, hungry in the morning and around lunch time. Struggling with hang over after new years eve party. Even went to WC as usual........ I wonder what that guy is doing now. Probably he extended to 2012, no? By all means he has money what the believers paid to aid his cause....hmmm

I have seen a book what suggest that our world is controlled by some kind of lizard creatures from dimension X or Y or shit and Bush is, naturally, possessed by one of them. Putyin too. Again, lucky rest (most) of the world, the author did not really took into account that there are other countries out there. Maybe he did not know.

Quote from one of my former student lads from university: "Why learn? You die eventually anyway."

What a nonsense is this? People are certainly bored. Like me when writing this post.

I wonder whether that bot understands anything but English- possibly not. What about the MAJORITY of people on Earth not using internet?

Well, if it goes like this, there will be a new product on CME.... doomsday futures contract. One will be able to trade it.


lol

PS: apologizes for any clue of sarcasm, please do not take it as an offense
Kind Regards zol
  • #2,305
  • Jul 12, 2009 10:56am Jul 12, 2009 10:56am
Has anyone done one of the vsa courses on the tradeguider site?
  • #2,306
  • Jul 12, 2009 11:22am Jul 12, 2009 11:22am
Quoting zoli
Curious this idea is....
one thing is for sure .... if the doomsday contract has volume i will be able to ride it up and down using VSA ...lol
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  • #2,307
  • Jul 12, 2009 12:13pm Jul 12, 2009 12:13pm
Hi,

How does VSA account for tests of lows on high volume? I would have thought the indicated bar was just an instance of absorbed selling. Yet the market continued down. I'd appreciate any sort of feedback on this.

Happy trading,

Greg
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  • #2,308
  • Jul 12, 2009 1:32pm Jul 12, 2009 1:32pm
Hello,

i am looking for Adamposter from VSA chat.

I have questions some for You Adam - please, let me know - PM me :}


Thanks.

Best,
Tom
  • #2,309
  • Edited 2:15pm Jul 12, 2009 1:57pm | Edited 2:15pm
Quoting Haxor
Hi,

How does VSA account for tests of lows on high volume? I would have thought the indicated bar was just an instance of absorbed selling. Yet the market continued down. I'd appreciate any sort of feedback on this.

Happy trading,

Greg
By the look of that volume bar and the hour (though not sure of the time zone), I'm almost sure that bar is news related - stay away from those, there's a lot of action around it, often without particular direction hints in it;

Personally, I would add that the main trend is down - the background is selling.
Extra care is needed if trying to trade against that (smaller positions, for smaller pips too) - I don't do it, because I found out that I only need 2 or 3 winner trades a day, to build my account up... and I can find those setups following the background.

But wait to see if our oracle has something else to say about that

Edit:
Let me add that there was a high volume rejection of that level some hours before (the buyers had to act in order to dry the sellers there)... so what I would be expecting to see, in the case of a double bottom to be forming there, would be a low volume test of the lows - signalling there's no more selling pressure there.
Only in such scenario I would consider the trend might be reversing - don't forget that one bar doesn't tell the all story.
  • #2,310
  • Jul 12, 2009 6:56pm Jul 12, 2009 6:56pm
Quoting Haxor
Hi,

How does VSA account for tests of lows on high volume? I would have thought the indicated bar was just an instance of absorbed selling. Yet the market continued down. I'd appreciate any sort of feedback on this.

Happy trading,

Greg
VSA is not about one bar alone, a story is unfolding bar by bar. This is why "background" is so important.

Considering the background, (increasing volume on the move down from the break of the bear flag), this was not a good trade to take.

You could have taken it, but the immediate bar after indicated weakness. Not a good sign so early in the move.
  • #2,311
  • Jul 12, 2009 7:29pm Jul 12, 2009 7:29pm
Quoting Haxor
Hi,

How does VSA account for tests of lows on high volume? I would have thought the indicated bar was just an instance of absorbed selling. Yet the market continued down. I'd appreciate any sort of feedback on this.

Happy trading,

Greg

vsa is all about back ground and waiting.

now if you bought right away on that high volume pin then you are not doing this right

I always wait for a confirmation OR if that was really buyer the up move would have been 200 pip ...... yes I may have missed 50 pip of ride, but I would still wait for a low volume on the up move to enter. This would confirm that in fact that was buyers . Do not forget that there are a lot of auto trading pro computers out there , specialy in the futures market where prices can be manipulated on lower time frames. This can often skew the volume . You therefore always have to wait for reaction or tests to what you see as buyers or sellers.
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  • #2,312
  • Jul 12, 2009 8:54pm Jul 12, 2009 8:54pm
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now if you bought right away on that high volume pin then you are not doing this right

Haxor,
in addition to above, u must realize not all pinbars are reversal bars or will shoot up to the moon. they sometimes indicate a pause or minor reversal.
  • #2,313
  • Jul 13, 2009 8:53am Jul 13, 2009 8:53am
on the eur/usd currently on the 15 min chart, there was a high wave almost a doji but with a slighty lower close on high volume.. Now i'm trying to analyse it through the vsa standpoint, please let me know what i should be looking at..
Does this indicate selling from a vsa standpoint? Because in the background to me it still looks like there is some buying at lower levels and a short may not be wise at the moment? Just trying to figure out the background and what the current bar is telling me..
Thanks in advance for the input
  • #2,314
  • Jul 13, 2009 9:04am Jul 13, 2009 9:04am
Quoting malcolmb14
forget all this doomsday theory ... this great oracle predicts GBP 1.3 test by November of this year
Hey malcolm, would this prediction have anything to do with he weekly chart? I was looking at it and two candles back, would that be considered a no demand bar since it tried to make new highs on low volume but closed down?
You made some awesome calls on the geppy so i'm wondering how do you determine your targets for price? Aside from the oracle's crystal ball
  • #2,315
  • Jul 13, 2009 9:22am Jul 13, 2009 9:22am
Quoting malcolmb14
vsa is all about back ground and waiting.

now if you bought right away on that high volume pin then you are not doing this right

I always wait for a confirmation OR if that was really...
hi malcom

we know background is important can you show us how to identify some background.. in lower tf and higher tf...
  • #2,316
  • Jul 13, 2009 9:36am Jul 13, 2009 9:36am
Just want to say great job on the forum, always helps me identify smart money players!
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  • #2,317
  • Jul 13, 2009 9:39am Jul 13, 2009 9:39am
Quoting pipsr4kids
Just want to say great job on the forum, always helps me identify smart money players!
I noticed again from the previous volume in the background how the volume spiked on that stopping volume and it occurred again.
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  • #2,318
  • Edited 1:13pm Jul 13, 2009 11:22am | Edited 1:13pm
Quoting pipsr4kids
I noticed again from the previous volume in the background how the volume spiked on that stopping volume and it occurred again.
eurusd is going through it--pipsr4kids
Accumulation--buyin dips all day
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  • #2,319
  • Jul 13, 2009 3:05pm Jul 13, 2009 3:05pm
why the f**k is everyone bailing out of goldman sachs at end of day if they are a buy ?

earnings report tomorrow.

I bet they make $1.5 and not $3.48 as expected, check out orphan month

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AL2FXcy6tv...e+3+months.JPG

and why did their analyst say they are a buy and banks going up 15% day before earnings ... man talk about manipulation . They should be locked up for this.

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  • #2,320
  • Jul 13, 2009 3:34pm Jul 13, 2009 3:34pm
Quoting malcolmb14
why the f**k is everyone bailing out of goldman sachs at end of day if they are a buy ?

earnings report tomorrow.

I bet they make $1.5 and not $3.48 as expected, check out orphan month

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AL2FXcy6tv...e+3+months.JPG

and why did their analyst say they are a buy and banks going up 15% day before earnings ... man talk about manipulation . They should be locked up for this.

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