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  • #1,321
  • Jul 9, 2009 1:25pm Jul 9, 2009 1:25pm
1. Nobody told you that you HAVE TO come in here, go ahead and make your own EA and good luck with that I only hope that you have the same skills like xux99.

2. Can you show me an EA that is making constantly profit? With other words all traders that try to find a robot for trading are stupid?
I would call it stupid to come in a thread and act like you did without giving the readers and testers an alternative, where the hell is your famous EA?.

3. The EA is blocked to protect newbees accounts and I think we have done the right thing with that. If someone want's to go live can contact the crew and we will se who it is, maybe we will give an unlocked version but what is that good for if we know that at the moment the EA isn't profitable yet?

4. Most of the constant posters here are trading THV manually and know what they do. I am sure that you have no clue what THV stands for and writing this crap in this thread I call ignorance.

I hope we don't cross our way again, good luck

Quoting Alex5757000
1.This system does not interest me at all, I write advisers myself.

2. Simply I am amazed with your stupid relation to this work.

3. The author has given you the adviser not working on live account and speaks: optimise it. Sense to waste time what you cannot already use on live account now?

4. And it is necessary to study, believe me my friend, only trading on live account in on-line time. Driving the drain adviser in a tester you will not receive anything.
Good luck
  • #1,322
  • Jul 9, 2009 1:33pm Jul 9, 2009 1:33pm
And you will blow your account much more seriously.

We blocked the EA to protect people like you (newbee) of losing their hard earned money.

Quoting Alex5757000
So I think, that if you post your EA for the live account, we will test it MUCH MORE SERIOUSLY.
yours faithfully, Alex.
  • #1,323
  • Jul 9, 2009 1:50pm Jul 9, 2009 1:50pm
Quoting Alex5757000
Good afternoon, Mr. cobraforex.
If you wish to interest traders to test your system, you should spread updatings with possibility to trade on a live account. Otherwise there is no desire to waste time that all will not make profit. I mean I don't require demo money, because I can't buy demo food, demo car, demo house and so on. You understand me. It's no time to test system which it is impossible to put on the live account. So I think, that if you post your EA for the live account, we will test it MUCH MORE SERIOUSLY.
yours faithfully, Alex.
Go figure a post like this....rude people or just a Koo-Koo person.

Cobra, U shouldn't even waste the energy answering...I know, it pisses you off....don't let people like this bother you the tiniest bit

Highest Regards
goldsurfer
  • #1,324
  • Jul 9, 2009 1:50pm Jul 9, 2009 1:50pm
Hi Folks

Good that this newbee stepped in here, which gives me an opportunity to write what I’m thinking about this work.

I started this only because I saw that there is a high demand for a THV EA, some rat noses already tried to sell THV EA’s and I don't want any comercial suppose for THV.

I started with contracting Ronald Raygun who gave up saying that the indicators aren’t EA friendly.

Karun who is professional programmer (learning MQL) came up in that time with a nice way to have the indicators called and we started slowly to develop the entry signals.

Than Xux99 was so friendly to enter in the development group and Caveman who is a long term THV trader and coder was giving his part too.

We tested and improved months in my private THV forum before we decided to open a public thread in FF to have more good EA traders testing it but we never said that it went out of the development phase, there is still a lot to do.

We have good entries but need to work in the exits and with the time we might come to a point where we say, that is it, we can’t do any more but with a result, if it is positive or negative.

My opinion about EA’s have never been very positive because I think that the human mind, if controlled by our self, can't be beaten by a robot.

All this is a hobby for me, a nice challenge to find out if a robot really can trade profitable under ALL market conditions and I’m still skeptic about it.

Anyone who thinks similar to me is welcome and take it as your hobby or a challenge to beat the market but all this is voluntary and nobody HAVE TO DO this and that.

If you have the time and interest, stay, if not go ahead with other tasks.

Thanks all for the support and lets get back to work.
  • #1,325
  • Jul 9, 2009 1:53pm Jul 9, 2009 1:53pm
I know Goldsurfer but it's good idea to clear this once for ever and the next time we only copy the link to this posts and ready.

Very practical, isn't it?

Quoting goldsurfer
Go figure a post like this....rude people or just a Koo-Koo person.

Cobra, U shouldn't even waste the energy answering...I know, it pisses you off....don't let people like this bother you the tiniest bit

Highest Regards
goldsurfer
  • #1,326
  • Jul 9, 2009 1:54pm Jul 9, 2009 1:54pm
Quoting cobraforex
I know Goldsurfer but it's good idea to clear this once for ever and the next time we only copy the link to this posts and ready.

Very practical, isn't it?
Cobra the Practical son?
  • #1,327
  • Jul 9, 2009 2:12pm Jul 9, 2009 2:12pm
This is my set file for GU on m5.

I have tweak it so far and it seems to have better results but occasionally still have one or two trades that goes wrong which I am still trying to understand why it is not working right.

Comments are welcome.
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  • #1,328
  • Jul 9, 2009 2:17pm Jul 9, 2009 2:17pm
DOVO

When you have those "bad" trades can you make a note in which OB/OS Trix condition is 15M and 1H please?

I would need that to confirm an idea which I want to discuss with xux when he comes back from vacations.

Quoting DOVOFreak
This is my set file for GU on m5.

I have tweak it so far and it seems to have better results but occasionally still have one or two trades that goes wrong which I am still trying to understand why it is not working right.

Comments are welcome.
  • #1,329
  • Jul 9, 2009 2:47pm Jul 9, 2009 2:47pm
Quoting cobraforex
DOVO

When you have those "bad" trades can you make a note in which OB/OS Trix condition is 15M and 1H please?

I would need that to confirm an idea which I want to discuss with xux when he comes back from vacations.
Just an observation and few comments.. maybe helpful. We are in a strong uptrend for EURUSD.. therefore it is plain to see that the BUYs are winners and the "bad" trades are the SELLS. No matter what THV will win in this type of market no matter what TF is being used on.
If it backtests good run it live!
  • #1,330
  • Jul 9, 2009 3:14pm Jul 9, 2009 3:14pm
The EA made only good trades today in the London session but the last is still floting in - pips and it could have been avoid if filtered with the 1H Trix OB.

If this gets stopped out it will wipe the previous gains.

You see in the charts that I'm also trying to find rules for levels trading
Quoting fxspeedster
Just an observation and few comments.. maybe helpful. We are in a strong uptrend for EURUSD.. therefore it is plain to see that the BUYs are winners and the "bad" trades are the SELLS. No matter what THV will win in this type of market no matter what TF is being used on.
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  • #1,331
  • Jul 9, 2009 4:01pm Jul 9, 2009 4:01pm
I like the idea of being able to tell the EA to go flat at a certain hour, maybe with a If In Profit or If In Loss by X Pips or something. Hate to see the thing just keep falling in a bad trade while I'm asleep.
The Flying Dutchman
  • #1,332
  • Jul 9, 2009 7:37pm Jul 9, 2009 7:37pm
Hy Cobra. Don't be angry on me, I think we didn't understand each other. I respect your project, though I'm not much interested in it. I would like to say another thing. I perfectly understand sense of that, why you do all this.. And don't call me newbee :-) // I have large experience in trading. I have looked on your trading system before, observed its signals. Anything especial, its not a GRAAL, but the potential is very big. At least from all systems which are in an open-source in the Internet - this is one of the best. Further if experienced traders work, they know that is possible to trade on a live account or it's not. Even when you will improve it, there will be traders who will lose the money on it. And nobody thought about beginners, these are their problems, all of them are looking for easy money, but it's impossible. I'd like only said that in my practice were such noncommercial projects when the group of traders developed the expert and then we tested it on certain (russian) forums. But we spread an initial code. So everyone could understand the code and change it, improve it. Therefore, how it is possible to improve your expert if an initial code (.mq4) have only you and besides trading on live account is blocked? In any way.
Clearly, you do not want, that it would appeared on e-bay. I understand you. Unfortunately, want you this or you don't, it will be there, or you didn't have to spread it in the Internet. But you have another perposes. SO successes to you in this hard business. :-)
  • #1,333
  • Jul 9, 2009 7:38pm Jul 9, 2009 7:38pm
Else I'd like to say on bussines: I have looked this EA and couldn't set up following settings: Let's have two separate accounts. One only for buying, another one - for selling. We will use Martingale. Initial conditions: when signal Trix becomes GREEN we enter BUY, then for example signal Trix becomes RED we look: if we have some profit we take it. If we have no profit(from this moment we fall into drawdown), we don't fix loss and wait for the next time when signal trix becomes GREEN and enter BUY with bigger lot (optimised par.). Similar for sell. So the main idea is to enter using Martin not with fixed stop-loss, take-profit and fixed step but like this using conditions of TRIX. The way to increase lot: we have to increase lot in connection whith the level of drawdown in pips till the moment when the TRIX became RED (we are in BUY). So than bigger drawdoun than bigger lot.
Else to improve this EA you can add an oscillator like Stoch or RSI. For example condition for buying: signal(!) Trix is GREEN and RSI is in the resell zone. Similar for sell. So we have to enter at the bottom and to increase the lot. I couldn't set this condition in your EA. If you can, please try to do it.
So I cann't say anything more because I tried to test it using some trix conditions, and have seen that this EA is very unfinished (some signals were not realised), but without mq4 I cann't help more. I think this may be help you!
About this TRIX, I think it is a simple combination of MA's with adaptive JMA smoothing algorithm or smoothing algorithm based on Tilson algorithm. Smth. like that.
(Else I'm sorry for my english, it's not my native language, so here can be mistakes) Once again, if I offended you I'm sorry, we simply didn't understand each other.
Good luck.
  • #1,334
  • Jul 9, 2009 10:16pm Jul 9, 2009 10:16pm
Quoting cobraforex
The EA made only good trades today in the London session but the last is still floting in - pips and it could have been avoid if filtered with the 1H Trix OB.

If this gets stopped out it will wipe the previous gains.

You see in the charts that I'm also trying to find rules for levels trading
Good point with that "1H Trix OB". That can be very helpfull. I am just trying to figure out at what settings are based your entries in this screenshot .
  • #1,335
  • Jul 10, 2009 1:31am Jul 10, 2009 1:31am
Stop it Alex, you're being very counter productive with your broken English skills and insults to people who spent alot of time and effort on this system and EA not only in coding but testing day in and day out.
I can't understand your broken English, nor can I understand your logic. If you have no intrest in this system why post here and why test or even look into this EA? Why are you wasting your time? Better yet why are you wasting ours? The owner of the EA and the developing team has decided not to let this EA trade live to protect everyone. It's their property and their rules. If I traded this EA live I whould have lost over half a mill by now in the testing phase alone just with a standard lot. You claim to be a coder yet you don't seem to understand simple logic? lol why do you even talk about source code? do you want to rename this EA and sell it on ebay yourself? If you don't have anything productive to say or do here. I would strongly suggest you smarten up. I'm sorry, I didn't want to come out as being rude. But I really didin't undertand wher you're comming from or what your intentions were. I'm having a really hard time understdning your writing...

peace...

Namastay Karun how is the weather in India? What part of India did you move to? I visited Punjab in 2000 it was very nice...

Quoting Alex5757000
Else I'd like to say on bussines: I have looked this EA and couldn't set up following settings: Let's have two separate accounts. One only for buying, another one - for selling. We will use Martingale. Initial conditions: when signal Trix becomes GREEN we enter BUY, then for example signal Trix becomes RED we look: if we have some profit we take it. If we have no profit(from this moment we fall into drawdown), we don't fix loss and wait for the next time when signal trix becomes GREEN and enter BUY with bigger lot (optimised par.). Similar for sell....
  • #1,336
  • Jul 10, 2009 1:54am Jul 10, 2009 1:54am
Quoting DOVOFreak
This is my set file for GU on m5.

I have tweak it so far and it seems to have better results but occasionally still have one or two trades that goes wrong which I am still trying to understand why it is not working right.

Comments are welcome.
Are they long running trades over more than 1 day? I've had an excellent hit ratio of good:bad on M15 T/F ( > 80%) but the bad trades are big and wipe out most of the gains. I suggested earlier a SET in V8 to close any -ve trades overnight.

B RGds

WR
  • #1,337
  • Edited 3:24am Jul 10, 2009 2:09am | Edited 3:24am
Quoting WackyRacer
Are they long running trades over more than 1 day? I've had an excellent hit ratio of good:bad on M15 T/F ( > 80%) but the bad trades are big and wipe out most of the gains. I suggested earlier a SET in V8 to close any -ve trades overnight.

B RGds

WR
No. I leave it running from 10am my time until late at night. There are many trades using this set but like you said the bad trades will hurt the winning trades. I would like to see how to configure the SET file so that the bad trades will be closed earlier.

I will observed today what's the OB/OS level that Cobra was asking for when a bad trade is close.

Add:

One losing trade at 2009.07.10 06:00 on GU just closed sold at 1.62753 stopped out at 1.62987. The OB/OS level at m15 are 0.00070 and -0.00041. The OB/OS level at H1 are 0.00090 and -0.00090.

Second losing trade at 2009.07.10 07:42 on GU just closed sold at 1.62612 stopped out at 1.62974. The OB/OS level at m15 are 0.00070 and -0.00041. The OB/OS level at H1 are 0.00090 and -0.00090.

Seems like the EA is trigger happy today. So far 4 trades on GU.
  • #1,338
  • Jul 10, 2009 3:59am Jul 10, 2009 3:59am
Quoting cobraforex
The EA made only good trades today in the London session but the last is still floting in - pips and it could have been avoid if filtered with the 1H Trix OB.

If this gets stopped out it will wipe the previous gains.

You see in the charts that I'm also trying to find rules for levels trading

Hi Cobra
Nice for you, to get good trades.
May I ask you to attach here a doc.file with your settings?
I tried a lot of diff. setings in diff TF but mostly no trades or bad trades.
Thanks and Danke vielmals dafür.
  • #1,339
  • Jul 10, 2009 9:37am Jul 10, 2009 9:37am
Hi All

Can xux or somebody from here tell me, why the imax didn't clos the
short trade? the imax setting was "300", so the imax is taken for entry, also for exit, both in the corrent candle.

thanks für answers :-)
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  • #1,340
  • Jul 10, 2009 9:44am Jul 10, 2009 9:44am
My guess is Alex IS interested in the EA but only if it will trade live and he can get the code. Then bingo, a Russian version for sale on the internet. Else why would he spend time here? Grab the code, change a couple of things, and it's the newest "FAP TURBO" or MEGADEAD, or whatever for sale that will make you rich overnight.
The Flying Dutchman
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