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  • #1,621
  • Jun 11, 2009 9:19pm Jun 11, 2009 9:19pm
Quoting paradoxical
What is the step(s) to do that?
just an idea, solutions could be different - indi's logic (inside code) -been just 4 TG to consider
  • #1,622
  • Jun 11, 2009 9:19pm Jun 11, 2009 9:19pm
Hi All,

Here is where confusion sets into the thread....Paulus and Tudor Girl have pulled back from the thread and now we have all kinds of variations of trades and indicators creeping into the thread. Not sure why we need the MACD indicator that some one attached a few posts back when it does the same thing as the indicators we already have from TG. This just leads to people being confused about what indicators and templates to use. I know every one has a few extra things they like to add to thier charts and not every one will trade the 5M charts, that's all well and good, just don't discuss those things on the thread. If some one sees something on your chart they like they can always IM you and ask for an explanation or the indicator. Bye the bye, I don't consider adding an MA to your chart the same thing as adding a true indicator like the MCAD or Stoch. Even if you have these on your chart that's fine, just don't discuss them when you post your chart. Let's try to stick with some of the original ideas until we have enough trades under our belts to make some resonable adjustments if needed.

Sorry for the rant but this thread is getting filled up with page after page of crap that has little to do with this methodology.
  • #1,623
  • Edited 9:48pm Jun 11, 2009 9:37pm | Edited 9:48pm
no confusion - there wasn't any outside indicators: macdcci (bbmacd and tm)-show exactly same data as HG0001a - similar ind. - different authors
templetes, indicators - post#1
  • #1,624
  • Jun 11, 2009 9:54pm Jun 11, 2009 9:54pm
And this indicator posted being a mq4, can have an alert added by
someone so those of us who use this system and want an alert
when the 5 min HG color changes..it can now be done without
harassing TG!

Brian

Quoting fxxx
no confusion - there wasn't any outside indicators: macdcci (bbmacd and tm)-show exactly same data as HG0001a - similar ind. - different authors
templetes, indicators - post#1
  • #1,625
  • Jun 11, 2009 10:12pm Jun 11, 2009 10:12pm
Quoting MAD
All,

Here is my brief attempt to define entry rules. This has only been tested on the hourly charts. I have used it for the past couple of days and it has successfully filtered false signals.

EURUSD hourly chart (Daily chart is in an uptrend)

TM = Trend Magic
HV = Hydrodynamic Vorticity

Entry rules:
Long
HV turns blue. Wait for TM to turn blue. Enter long.
Short
HV turns red. Wait for TM to to turn red. Enter short

MAD, we all know here that HV has a tendency to widen its color until previous 2 bars. Have you checked from your picture that on your pointing arrow, that was the exactly place where you saw it on live?

Thanks
  • #1,626
  • Jun 11, 2009 10:47pm Jun 11, 2009 10:47pm
Quoting viocable
MAD, we all know here that HV has a tendency to widen its color until previous 2 bars. Have you checked from your picture that on your pointing arrow, that was the exactly place where you saw it on live?

Thanks
No it was not. I have noticed the repainting on the HV indicator. However, it does not change your entry strategy if you are using this as a supportive indi. The final candle that closed and changed the HV indi to the other color will be the entry candle.

I monitored this on the 1 min charts and saw the indi push back 2-3 bars after the candle closed. However, using any indicator on 1M or 5M charts will produce more false signals due to more noise on the lower charts.

Price action will always lead. I use the TM as the secondary indicator to price itself. The HV can be used as one just to confirm. If one doesn't like the way the HV works DONT USE IT.

I believe this system as great potential if the right people were involved.
  • #1,627
  • Jun 11, 2009 10:50pm Jun 11, 2009 10:50pm
Quoting MAD
No it was not. I have noticed the repainting on the HV indicator. However, it does not change your entry strategy if you are using this as a supportive indi. The final candle that closed and changed the HV indi to the other color will be the entry candle.

I monitored this on the 1 min charts and saw the indi push back 2-3 bars after the candle closed. However, using any indicator on 1M or 5M charts will produce more false signals due to more noise on the lower charts.

Price action will always lead. I use the TM as the secondary indicator to...
Ok.thanks for the explanation, will check it forward on H1 !
  • #1,628
  • Jun 11, 2009 11:05pm Jun 11, 2009 11:05pm
Quoting viocable
Ok.thanks for the explanation, will check it forward on H1 !
Thats not exactly what I meant. This forum is for developing the strategy on the 5M chart. Use the indis as they are and do your demo testing. Log all trades good and bad and post your results.

All posts should be regarding a trade using this strategy only. Including detailed info on why you entered, where you placed your stops and profit targets.

The quality of your post regarding your trade will show your seriousness as a trader.
  • #1,629
  • Jun 11, 2009 11:14pm Jun 11, 2009 11:14pm
Quoting MAD
Thats not exactly what I meant. This forum is for developing the strategy on the 5M chart. Use the indis as they are and do your demo testing. Log all trades good and bad and post your results.

All posts should be regarding a trade using this strategy only. Including detailed info on why you entered, where you placed your stops and profit targets.

The quality of your post regarding your trade will show your seriousness as a trader.
I know.. I just wonder by looking at your picture. The Arrow you draw on HV indicator, that's exactly where the color changes.
In history, I thought by the characteristic of HV, the bar will widen until 2 previous bars. If the characteristic of the Indi is that way, may be the arrow you put were on the wrong place, because when we see it live, the arrow might not be there, could be on the next two bar from the place where the arrow was put. That was my objective.

Among this time, I just traded it on 5 minutes and try to catch the "market explosion" using HG001a and HG001a_MTF on GBPUSD, which usually happen after 5 GMT or 6 GMT. And it works for me.

Please do not take it the wrong way, I just curious about how the HV works on H1. Nothing more, nothing less. Ok?

BTW, sorry for my bad english. It's not my native
  • #1,630
  • Jun 12, 2009 1:12am Jun 12, 2009 1:12am
I just do not understand you guys. At first everyone was like Hurray Hurray what a wonderful job TG you have done etc. Now when she desided that she needs a litle break from this thread everyone start screeming that this indicator does this and that and is actualy some other indicator. I use the HG original single TF indicator as my lead indicator and I love it. Just trade what you see and you will do just fine.
PS! every indicator that is around here or anywhere in the FX world is made to act to the price. It is no wonder that two indicator looks the same co the act to the price. And one more thing the original HG had as one component the MACD. I do not know based on what the TM was made I you know what I do not care as long as it works it is just fine for me.
Happy trading

Kristjan
  • #1,631
  • Jun 12, 2009 1:37am Jun 12, 2009 1:37am
It is very sad how these threads always seem to get so corrupted. This is why I am not a poster (oh no I'm writing a post....!), and would rather read and learn than get into a war of words. It seems to me that what happened in this thread is Tudor Girl produced a series of indicators of such elegant, effective simplicity, and we were dazzled....

Her mistake was in suggesting that there was a lot more to come - and then we were instantly impatient - what we had was no longer enough.

All visitors to this thread who read through it will find great things, but they are still useless in the hands of the wrong individuals.

If this is all we get from Tudor Girl then we have done very, very well! Thank you, Anne!
  • #1,632
  • Jun 12, 2009 1:45am Jun 12, 2009 1:45am
Seconded dPaulo and well said. I very rarely post here for the same reason....threads with great potential slowly descend into farce, buried under indicators, EA's or criticism.

Keep the focus here - this is a system with potential...please forget the side-issues just this once!
  • #1,633
  • Jun 12, 2009 1:47am Jun 12, 2009 1:47am
Quoting dpaulo
It is very sad how these threads always seem to get so corrupted....
Well put! Thank you Anne! In the time it took me to read this thread I have made several profitable trades on the EU. This is a better rate of success then I have experienced since I starting doing this 6 months ago.

I will be forever in your debt.
  • #1,634
  • Jun 12, 2009 2:02am Jun 12, 2009 2:02am
this is a sad day for me

All I have ever done is try to help every one at FF and why ? because I in return get help

If I put a stochastic on my chart and i get the same entry as another indicator gives so what....

This thread was about constructing a system based around TG indicators.I can tell you guys now if she was out in the commercial world she would be charging $200 an hour esp with her CV and proven track record.

bank institutional traders hedge fund managers would be out bidding each other to get her on their team

Do you realise the raw talent we have here..once in a blue moon you get these opportunities and you end up biting off the hand that could potentialy feed you

Im not interested in BB CCI RSI or any other type of indicator on this thread.You can use it if you wish but post clear un cluttered charts doesn't take long in MT4 4 clicks and you have a new chart purely for posting on this thread.

If you want to trade with CCI BB macd just start another thread this thread is labelled TM Ive been trading for 12 years im not interested in other ind on this thread my other system use those tools but not here..

Clean and simple thats what we need,lets all pull together wipe the slate clean and push on.

Yes I know that 3 days ago a CCI cross up through zero with the macd red and the stochastic over sold made 325 pips but guys Im not interested

please keep this clean and simple

Im sorry that all the decent traders that have posted here have to read this your not being tarred with the same brush my friends believe me

Paulus
  • #1,635
  • Jun 12, 2009 2:12am Jun 12, 2009 2:12am
Paulus, I'm always saddened to see how things "devolve" once the ball starts rolling. It never seems to be enough and ends up into an ego stroking argument and who is RIGHT. I wholeheartedly agree that one needs to stay focused on the core principles and be grateful for what is given and the knowledge and quite obviously the money to be gained. If it were otherwise I'd question why anyone bothers. Keep the faith.
  • #1,636
  • Jun 12, 2009 2:14am Jun 12, 2009 2:14am
100% in agreement with Paulus here, why oh why do people insist on adding more and more indicators to this thread when it has been made abundantly clear time and time again, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY OTHER INDICATORS. Just stick with original and lets trade it for a while.
If you really must use other indicators, start another thread.
Cheers
Geoff
  • #1,637
  • Jun 12, 2009 2:18am Jun 12, 2009 2:18am
Paulus , the ones complaining cannot be winners. Ignore them , they dont realise the work u and anne have done, it wil be only good if only traders approved by u post here if not it wil go to dust,
Quoting Paulus
this is a sad day for me

All I have ever done is try to help every one at FF and why ? because I in return get help

If I put a stochastic on my chart and i get the same entry as another indicator gives so what....

This thread was about constructing a system based around TG indicators.I can tell you guys now if she was out in the commercial world she would be charging $200 an hour esp with her CV and proven track record.

bank institutional traders hedge fund managers would be out bidding each other to get her on their team

Do you realise...
Trend is your friend...
  • #1,638
  • Jun 12, 2009 2:20am Jun 12, 2009 2:20am
whether the system is as simple as ema1 cross sma10 or whatever, its irrelevant, what is relevant is result, RESULT!!! the question is this, are we having result?

where were these ema1 cross sma2 guys before now, why didnt they bring this out b4 now, or did they know and refused to share it? and now that we know its working (at least for one week), here they are to trivialize it. they want the confidence we have in trading this to wane down once they call it ema cross cci 50

Ok agreed its simple MA cross and cci50 and stuffs like that, but can we stop flipping from TF to TF using the ema-cci thing?,

look at what TudorGirl and Paulus have done to it they have made it possible for us to be in 5M TF and still know the predominant trend in the immediate higher TFs without flipping up and down the charts

and by that trade with the trend, this is a great relieve to newbies like me who cannot say easily what the trend is either up or down

pls let us use this and squeeze all the pips out of those pairs

I beg I no fit shout

kos
John 3:16 - From THIS love no power on earth can me sever.
  • #1,639
  • Jun 12, 2009 2:24am Jun 12, 2009 2:24am
Quoting Paulus
.....

Im not interested in BB CCI RSI or any other type of indicator on this thread.You can use it if you wish but post clear un cluttered charts doesn't take long in MT4 4 clicks and you have a new chart purely for posting on this thread.

If you want to trade with CCI BB macd just start another thread this thread is labelled TM Ive been trading for 12 years I'm not interested in other ind on this thread my other system use those tools but not here..

Clean and simple thats what we need,lets all pull together...
Yes. Let's stay focused.
Thanks for these words of encouragement.

Bruce
  • #1,640
  • Jun 12, 2009 2:29am Jun 12, 2009 2:29am
Paulus asks please no more indicators other than original on this thread, then 15 mins later we get a chart posted with macd, cci, stochs, and ma on it, quite unbelievable, sometimes I just despair
Geoff
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