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  • #341
  • May 25, 2009 11:12am May 25, 2009 11:12am
Quoting elbablaster
I try without patterns on 15 min chart on friday an no trade was made. (trade only when the 4 MTF lights and cloud histo have the same color).
Today i set patterns = 1 and trades are made by the ea, but only those which have patters as reason for opening trade!
same here, I cant get it to trade either with patterns off.
Pip Goes The Weasel
  • #342
  • May 25, 2009 11:54am May 25, 2009 11:54am
You guys are doing something wrong.

This trade in the screenshot is made with all pattern and divergence off (0) on my 5mv4 set version.

If it works on the simulator it works in realtime as well.

Quoting adrazz
same here, I cant get it to trade either with patterns off.
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  • #343
  • May 25, 2009 12:13pm May 25, 2009 12:13pm
Quoting adrazz
Yep np.

Great trade just then, perfect setup and closure.

set file included, 5 min timeframe
set CloseIfProfit=true to avoid that negative partial close when the exit signal occurs. ("true means that if an opposite or exit signal occurs only profitable or breakeven trades are closed")

in one of my setups i'm having a lot of $0.00 partial closures because of this, but i rather take 0 bucks than less than that

AZBOfin
  • #344
  • Edited 12:35pm May 25, 2009 12:24pm | Edited 12:35pm
Quoting cobraforex
No idea, maybe the internet datafeed?

Never seen that before.
must be a hickup or something but you know what... i had another one of those this afternoon. can't say when it happened because i wasn't sitting in front of it. the comment line says "long order first exit by indicator signal" but it never happened and it's not when the candle right after the opening of the trade touched MR1 (i have set the minimum distance to 10 pips and it's les than that) - the message would be different as well.

btw: all other demo account are trading fine during this time. it's my guess that it can't be the internet feed.

AZBOfin
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  • #345
  • May 25, 2009 12:32pm May 25, 2009 12:32pm
Thank You Cobra for reply...Understand

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjstevee http://www.forexfactory.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Computer reboot I needed to reboot computer,,,

Chart came back up still with smiley face,(assumed still working)

When this happens do I need to reattach expert to same chart ...or just start clean with a new chart. I had no open orders at this time,,Not sure if trades did occur.
Also..Do I have to have the indicators ON chart.....I do just asking

Thanks
  • #346
  • Edited 12:45pm May 25, 2009 12:34pm | Edited 12:45pm
We know about a problem on MT4 requoting the trades and xux99 is working on it.

Might be that this error is the guilty one?

But like I said before, I never had that problem since two month of back and forward testing.

The screenshot shows two other trades from today (very poor volume and choppy), the last one closed in BE.

In total a very good day for the rob, 5 trades => no loser (see my earlier screenshot of realtime trades today)
Quoting AZBOfin
must be a hickup or something
AZBOfin
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  • #347
  • May 25, 2009 12:44pm May 25, 2009 12:44pm
Quoting cobraforex
We know about a problem on MT4 requoting the trades and xux99 is working on it.

Might be that this error is the guilty one?

But like I said before, I never had that problem since two month of back and forward testing.
just now the funniest thing happened.
it closed the next parcel at TP and it took 50% of the original lots even though it should be only 33.3%.

- original trade BUY 0.3 lots
- first exit at 33.3% of the size, but somehow missed it
- second exit, closed 0.15 lots (50% of the size)

this makes me really wonder
  • #348
  • May 25, 2009 12:48pm May 25, 2009 12:48pm
Quoting cobraforex
The screenshot shows two other trades from today (very poor volume and choppy), the last one closed in BE.

In total a very good day for the rob, 5 trades => no loser (see my earlier screenshot of realtime trades today)
in this setup you have pattern recognition turned on, don't you?
  • #349
  • May 25, 2009 12:59pm May 25, 2009 12:59pm
Yes, I feel comfort with it as it is a double confirmation, that's why we added it as a parameter.
Quoting AZBOfin
in this setup you have pattern recognition turned on, don't you?
  • #350
  • May 25, 2009 1:04pm May 25, 2009 1:04pm
That sounds to me like the EA is refering to another set file.

I'm not very good in EA stuff but my sets are working fine, the bot does what I want him to do.

BUT: I never tried to TP on three exits.

Quoting AZBOfin
just now the funniest thing happened.
it closed the next parcel at TP and it took 50% of the original lots even though it should be only 33.3%.

- original trade BUY 0.3 lots
- first exit at 33.3% of the size, but somehow missed it
- second exit, closed 0.15 lots (50% of the size)

this makes me really wonder
  • #351
  • May 25, 2009 2:30pm May 25, 2009 2:30pm
hmmmm ... I encounter difficulties too trading with the EA ? So cobra: could please post the complete set file you use actually ? I'd like quite simply get the same succesful trades as you - must look on some real trading results b4 trying my one settings. I think the possibility to have a look on your succesful working setup file would be helpful at the beginning of testing.
  • #352
  • May 25, 2009 2:59pm May 25, 2009 2:59pm
Hi Mandl

It doesn't make sense that I post my sets every moment, we want to discuss different sets and not only mine (that I can do alone).

Sure, I have the advantage that I know very well how to trade THV and with that the parameters, but the idea is that you all use your skills to find new sets.

We saved you the expenses to built the EA, but the work to optimize it, you need to do by yourself.

Quoting Mandl2007
So cobra: could please post the complete set file you use actually ?
  • #353
  • May 25, 2009 3:20pm May 25, 2009 3:20pm
This can be accomplished by reversing the values of TrixOverboughtLevel and TrixOversoldLevel. Using default settings, the EA opens a long trade only if trix is below -0.00009 and a short one only if trix is above 0.00009.

Quoting thilool
Hello,

I was using the THV system in a way, that I only trade if a Trix Crossing happens not WITHIN the Oversold-bought levels but OUTSIDE these levels on an high 1h or 4h time frame. Manuelly I was quite successful with this approach.

Is there an option withing the EA which I could use for that? Could it eventually be added without much hassle?

If not: How can I access the THVTrix indicator parameters to test such an EA by myself? (I also have a little bit of coding experience)

Thanks for your support.

Thilo
  • #354
  • May 25, 2009 3:22pm May 25, 2009 3:22pm
When a exit signal occurs but the order is not closed because of requotes or any other reason, the EA does not try to close it again. This will be corrected in the next version. In your case the close of the first exit failed, in the second exit the EA closes 50% of the current lots assuming that the first exit did not fail. So it closes 0.3*(50/100)=0.15 lots. If the first exit had not failed, the remaining lots would be 0.2 and the EA would close 0.2*(50/100)=0.1 lots.


Quoting AZBOfin
just now the funniest thing happened.
it closed the next parcel at TP and it took 50% of the original lots even though it should be only 33.3%.

- original trade BUY 0.3 lots
- first exit at 33.3% of the size, but somehow missed it
- second exit, closed 0.15 lots (50% of the size)

this makes me really wonder
  • #355
  • May 25, 2009 3:34pm May 25, 2009 3:34pm
Quoting AZBOfin
set CloseIfProfit=true to avoid that negative partial close when the exit signal occurs. ("true means that if an opposite or exit signal occurs only profitable or breakeven trades are closed")

in one of my setups i'm having a lot of $0.00 partial closures because of this, but i rather take 0 bucks than less than that

AZBOfin
OK thanks
Pip Goes The Weasel
  • #356
  • May 25, 2009 4:07pm May 25, 2009 4:07pm
Thanks for the explanation xux.

you folks need to know that xux is the main coder of this EA.



Quoting xux99
When a exit signal occurs but the order is not closed because of requotes or any other reason, the EA does not try to close it again. This will be corrected in the next version.
  • #357
  • May 25, 2009 5:12pm May 25, 2009 5:12pm
Quoting xux99
When a exit signal occurs but the order is not closed because of requotes or any other reason, the EA does not try to close it again. This will be corrected in the next version. In your case the close of the first exit failed, in the second exit the EA closes 50% of the current lots assuming that the first exit did not fail. So it closes 0.3*(50/100)=0.15 lots. If the first exit had not failed, the remaining lots would be 0.2 and the EA would close 0.2*(50/100)=0.1 lots.

Few suggestions:

A comment that identifies the trade to particular .set setting would be nice - when order is placed, such comment should be placed on the order, so it shows up in trade log. Since we may try different EA setting for the same currency and/or same account, it helps to wade thru the account and identify which trades were placed by which setting.


It would also be nice to be able to 'OR' some of the entry conditions. example: take entry when fast trix crosses slow trix OR fast trix crosses zero-line. I probably would be harder to capture and program 'or' conditions, so I am not sure how it can be integrated without making it too complicated - IMHO, this EA us already doing too many things that defy KISS principle.


Entry point is powerful when Higher TF MTF trix histo change color. Having a MTF Histo color confirm to the signal is ok but signal is more powerful at a point when those color go from red to green or green to red - if such point can be captured to generate the signal, it would be very useful.
  • #358
  • May 25, 2009 5:22pm May 25, 2009 5:22pm
You have that option already in the MTF trix settings of the EA.

If you set 30 fast as a parameter it will take the trade at the moment that the fast trix in 30M changes color and you can combine that with other entry filters.

Or maybe I don't understand what you mean?

BTW: on my set no other trades where taken today and that is good so as it was very choppy.
Quoting kerty9

Entry point is powerful when Higher TF MTF trix histo change color. Having a MTF Histo color confirm to the signal is ok but signal is more powerful at a point when those color go from red to green or green to red - if such point can be captured to generate the signal, it would be very useful.
  • #359
  • May 26, 2009 3:45am May 26, 2009 3:45am
All,

I have been successfully trading with the pattern indicators turned off.

My entry criteria are

6 lights
Trix Cross
Fast Trix in same direction.

Cheers

WR
  • #360
  • May 26, 2009 4:49am May 26, 2009 4:49am
Quoting cobraforex
Hi Mandl

It doesn't make sense that I post my sets every moment, we want to discuss different sets and not only mine (that I can do alone).

Sure, I have the advantage that I know very well how to trade THV and with that the parameters, but the idea is that you all use your skills to find new sets.

We saved you the expenses to built the EA, but the work to optimize it, you need to do by yourself.
Hmmm. well I know I understand THV pretty good, not as good as you but I sure did figure out 8-10 defs of parameters and got the confidence to make my own sets by looking at yours. Lot of parameters and combinations,
I think it helps to look at "winning" sets. Just my two cents, worth only about 1 cent actually
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