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  • #121
  • Apr 14, 2009 5:13pm Apr 14, 2009 5:13pm
I got in to and out of several orders with the EA today. But it seems all of them got out with only 5 to 20 pips. Is my settings wrong? I thought using a 4 hour chart I should expect a much longer term transaction, maybe a trade that lasts the whole day or even days.


Quoting Ronald Raygun
Risk is a % of your available margin
If presented with multiple stop-loss options, the EA takes the tightest stoploss.

The indicators are standard MT4 indicators, so there is no need for you to have to put them on the chart.

My recommendation to you alpine is to experiment with the EA(s). Play with the functions and see what happens. The worst case is you lose demo dollars.
Gary
  • #122
  • Apr 14, 2009 10:19pm Apr 14, 2009 10:19pm
Quoting alpine4133
I got in to and out of several orders with the EA today. But it seems all of them got out with only 5 to 20 pips. Is my settings wrong? I thought using a 4 hour chart I should expect a much longer term transaction, maybe a trade that lasts the whole day or even days.
Are they following the system?
  • #123
  • Apr 14, 2009 11:04pm Apr 14, 2009 11:04pm
Do you mean are the EA's getting in on the right signal and out? Seems they are getting out early. The AO and AC both have not change signals, but the EA closed the position. Maybe it is the Stoploss, should I disable it? Maybe I do not have it set right.

Quoting Ronald Raygun
Are they following the system?
Gary
  • #124
  • Apr 14, 2009 11:07pm Apr 14, 2009 11:07pm
That depends on whether or not you have a 5 digit broker.

But telling me about it isn't going to help. I need you to show me too.
  • #125
  • Apr 20, 2009 1:27pm Apr 20, 2009 1:27pm
Ash,
I like this system but I have a question. Do we enter 0n the first PSAR dot only? I'm seeing lots of potentially good trades where the AC, AO and stochastics were in agreement with the 2nd or 3rd PSAR dot. Would either of the trades in attached chart with blue and red lines be valid entries?

Thanks,
Bubba
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  • #126
  • Apr 20, 2009 10:22pm Apr 20, 2009 10:22pm
Hi RR,

Once again thanks for sharing your work here at FF.
I tried your EA with the default settings (changed only the lot size)
I have put it on numerous pairs with each one having a different magic number.
Did it on Daily charts on one account and 4H on another one.
You said that your ea doesn't open one trade then close half but it should open trade1 and trade2.

The problem i am seeing is that it does not always open both trades.
Today, On the daily it opened
AUDCHF sell trade1 only
EURAUD buy trade2 only
GBPCHF sell trade 1 & 2
USDCAD buy trade1 only

My broker is IBFX ,
Any idea of what is getting wrong ?

Thanks
  • #127
  • Apr 20, 2009 11:46pm Apr 20, 2009 11:46pm
Quoting airx3000
Hi RR,

Once again thanks for sharing your work here at FF.
I tried your EA with the default settings (changed only the lot size)
I have put it on numerous pairs with each one having a different magic number.
Did it on Daily charts on one account and 4H on another one.
You said that your ea doesn't open one trade then close half but it should open trade1 and trade2.

The problem i am seeing is that it does not always open both trades.
Today, On the daily it opened
AUDCHF sell trade1 only
EURAUD buy trade2 only
GBPCHF sell trade 1 & 2
USDCAD buy...
Any error messages or failed order openings? That's usually the case when there are multiple orders opened in rapid succession.
  • #128
  • Apr 21, 2009 3:10am Apr 21, 2009 3:10am
Quoting Bubba
Ash,
I like this system but I have a question. Do we enter 0n the first PSAR dot only? I'm seeing lots of potentially good trades where the AC, AO and stochastics were in agreement with the 2nd or 3rd PSAR dot. Would either of the trades in attached chart with blue and red lines be valid entries?

Thanks,
Bubba
To my understanding: No, those are not valid entries. Yes, we only enter at the switch of the PSAR, if all other requirements have been filled before and/or at this bar.

There was another system by ash which followed your variation, but this wasn`t as successful.

Regards

Forex37
  • #129
  • Apr 21, 2009 5:35am Apr 21, 2009 5:35am
Quoting Ronald Raygun
Any error messages or failed order openings? That's usually the case when there are multiple orders opened in rapid succession.
If rapid orders might pose a problem wouldn't iy be better if the EA open only one order that it will split later ?

By the way here is the journal, it seems that only the USDCAD order has an error message:

07:00:06 '5576112': instant order sell 0.10 GBPCHF at 1.6942 sl: 1.7310 tp: 0.0000
07:00:06 '5576112': request was accepted by server
07:00:06 '5576112': request in process
07:00:06 '5576112': order was opened : #69138492 sell 0.10 GBPCHF at 1.6942 sl: 1.7310 tp: 0.0000
07:00:07 '5576112': instant order buy 0.10 EURAUD at 1.8508 sl: 1.7990 tp: 0.0000
07:00:07 '5576112': request was accepted by server
07:00:07 '5576112': request in process
07:00:07 '5576112': order was opened : #69138516 buy 0.10 EURAUD at 1.8508 sl: 1.7990 tp: 0.0000
07:00:07 '5576112': instant order sell 0.10 GBPCHF at 1.6942 sl: 1.7310 tp: 0.0000
07:00:07 '5576112': request was accepted by server
07:00:07 '5576112': request in process
07:00:07 '5576112': order was opened : #69138531 sell 0.10 GBPCHF at 1.6942 sl: 1.7310 tp: 0.0000
07:00:08 '5576112': instant order sell 0.10 AUDCHF at 0.8160 sl: 0.8449 tp: 0.0000
07:00:08 '5576112': request was accepted by server
07:00:08 '5576112': request in process
07:00:08 '5576112': order was opened : #69138568 sell 0.10 AUDCHF at 0.8160 sl: 0.8449 tp: 0.0000
07:00:12 '5576112': instant order buy 0.10 USDCAD at 1.2408 sl: 1.1980 tp: 0.0000
07:00:12 '5576112': request was accepted by server
07:00:12 '5576112': request in process
07:00:12 '5576112': order was opened : #69138829 buy 0.10 USDCAD at 1.2408 sl: 1.1980 tp: 0.0000
07:03:32 '5576112': order buy 0.10 USDCAD opening at 1.2408 sl: 1.1980 tp: 0.0000 failed [Trade timeout]
  • #130
  • Apr 21, 2009 8:57am Apr 21, 2009 8:57am
Trade timeout means the server probably wasn't responding to the EA's request.

And as for splitting lots, I agree, that's more reliable when getting into a trade, but what about getting out of a trade? My problem with splitting lots is that the EA needs to remember if the trade was split. If the EA's memory is wiped out by a power failure, terminal reset, or similar, then what?
  • #131
  • Apr 21, 2009 10:33am Apr 21, 2009 10:33am
Quoting Ronald Raygun
Trade timeout means the server probably wasn't responding to the EA's request.

And as for splitting lots, I agree, that's more reliable when getting into a trade, but what about getting out of a trade? My problem with splitting lots is that the EA needs to remember if the trade was split. If the EA's memory is wiped out by a power failure, terminal reset, or similar, then what?
Then what ? Good question but as i am not a programmer i will ask one myself ;-)
Is there any way to make the EA know it already split a trade ?
thru the lot size for instance, if we use a fixed lot size of course....
Just an idea....
  • #132
  • Apr 21, 2009 10:55am Apr 21, 2009 10:55am
Quoting airx3000
Then what ? Good question but as i am not a programmer i will ask one myself ;-)
Is there any way to make the EA know it already split a trade ?
thru the lot size for instance, if we use a fixed lot size of course....
Just an idea....

what if the lot size changes? (Using a % of MM)

Tracking by order ticket#: Order ticket# is lost in EA's internal memory.
Tracking by trade comment: possible, but splitting lots changes the ordercomment.
  • #133
  • Apr 21, 2009 8:23pm Apr 21, 2009 8:23pm
I am having very good success with your EA. I feel that I may still not have the settings right because I really do not understand them.

Does it use Takeprofit or AutoCalulateTakeprofit? I'm guessing if you set it so the EA Manages the trade it looks at autoCalulate.

Where can I find information on the JumpStop and JumpStop Pips and JumpAfterBreakEven? How is that different from StopLoss?

I think I remember reading about some of this but can not find it now.

Quoting SteveHopwood
I missed what your were getting at, SwingMan, until I saw my ea open a trade with the candle the wrong colour. I have added the necessary code.

I have also added a Volumes filter, using insight gained from the VSA threads. If UseVolume is set to true, the EA checks that market volume has been rising over the previous two candles before placing the trade. The default is false, as this is not part of Ash's strategy.

There were a couple of inputs in the first ea that were not used by the robot. I simply forgot to delete these when I adapted my EA...
Gary
  • #134
  • Apr 21, 2009 10:43pm Apr 21, 2009 10:43pm
When I choose EAManagesTrades how do I choose the Risk? Is the Risk level built in?

Quoting SteveHopwood
I missed what your were getting at, SwingMan, until I saw my ea open a trade with the candle the wrong colour. I have added the necessary code.

I have also added a Volumes filter, using insight gained from the VSA threads. If UseVolume is set to true, the EA checks that market volume has been rising over the previous two candles before placing the trade. The default is false, as this is not part of Ash's strategy.

There were a couple of inputs in the first ea that were not used by the robot. I simply forgot to delete these when I adapted my EA...
Gary
  • #135
  • Apr 23, 2009 3:44am Apr 23, 2009 3:44am
Quoting Ronald Raygun
Trade timeout means the server probably wasn't responding to the EA's request.

And as for splitting lots, I agree, that's more reliable when getting into a trade, but what about getting out of a trade? My problem with splitting lots is that the EA needs to remember if the trade was split. If the EA's memory is wiped out by a power failure, terminal reset, or similar, then what?
Feel free to pinch the code from my robot for this, RR.

extern double Close_Lots = 0.01;
extern double Preserve_Lots=0.01;

are the key variables. The guts are to be found in void JumpingStopLoss(). Every time the robot resets the stop loss, it closes Close_Lots of the original trade, until only Preserve_Lots is left.

  • #136
  • Apr 23, 2009 3:49am Apr 23, 2009 3:49am
Quoting alpine4133
I am having very good success with your EA.
I find it has good days and bad days. My guess is that major support/resistance points interfere with the trade; I am sure the robot must sometimes place trades that no manual trader would take. I am starting to think about how to incorporate consideration of these into the code.

Quote
I feel that I may still not have the settings right because I really do not understand them.

Does it use Takeprofit or AutoCalulateTakeprofit? I'm guessing if you set it so the EA Manages the trade it looks at autoCalulate.

Where can I find information on the JumpStop and JumpStop Pips and JumpAfterBreakEven? How is that different from StopLoss?

I think I remember reading about some of this but can not find it now.
All this is taken from my management EA. Follow the link in my signature to download the documentation for the EA; there you can read about jumping stops et al.

  • #137
  • Apr 23, 2009 6:31am Apr 23, 2009 6:31am
This message is for Ronald or Steve or any smart programmer guy. I have been following Ash for #I and II Strategy. I also have mixed this stragegy with Trend Finder with Bull 101. Ronald made an EA for the D and 4h strategy on that Bull blog. I use the Stochastic Histogram and AO. I use Ronald ea and trade also manually. I love the EA. Here is the delima: The EA on the Bull Blog enters fine, however, the take profits could be better for me, I think. I want to be able to use one order at say 50 BE & take profit, and a second for 100. Add that to the Trend Finder EA. I use the Colored Par set at .05 and .2, I use Damoni Non lag MA and the Slope Direction V2, Gann ZZ, Fractals, Stochastic Histogram 533, with the only the main Stochastic Line added, AO. I use the entry as Trend Finder and Ash basically have instructed, along with the obvious. Thanks, any help would be appreciated. I need to be able to enter the numbers, like say the 50 pips profit i would at times want to make it 20 or 25 etc. These markets don't offer 50 pips as often as 25 and 50 and then let one run at BE etc. Bless All
  • #138
  • Apr 23, 2009 6:43am Apr 23, 2009 6:43am
I hope this thread is not too dead. I have never blogged before. Just to catalog. My husband, daughter, and I trade. We use a VPS with the Swiss Army EA loaded to BE all trades on the IBFXplatform at 50 pips each. This is a safety feature and also there is no breakeven on the OZFX EA's. We have worked10 years on this. I trade full time. The other guys work. We all use Ronalds's OZFX long and short to enter trades. We have been entering on the daily chart manually. If we can combine some of these features, we could have a great EA. It is magnificent. Just some info.
  • #139
  • Apr 23, 2009 6:54am Apr 23, 2009 6:54am
Steve: Do you think your Managedment EA can substitue for the Swiss ARmy EA. We use the SWiss Army to just breaeven on all pairs at 50 pips in the VPS.. Your Management EA is a turbo wonder.
  • #140
  • Apr 23, 2009 5:19pm Apr 23, 2009 5:19pm
Quoting SusanD
Steve: Do you think your Managedment EA can substitue for the Swiss ARmy EA. We use the SWiss Army to just breaeven on all pairs at 50 pips in the VPS.. Your Management EA is a turbo wonder.
Don't know, Susan - never used the Swissy.

My first post in my mtpm thread makes clear my reasons for writing the ea and making it freely available. Basically, I can code so I do; this way I know I am getting what I want.

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