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  • #781
  • Apr 13, 2009 3:36pm Apr 13, 2009 3:36pm
Here is a small example for IBFX
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  • #782
  • Apr 14, 2009 6:04am Apr 14, 2009 6:04am
Quoting Abnormalone
Have you tried the 4 hr time frame on any platforms beside FXDD? FXDD starts their 4 hr bar at GMT -2, IBFX starts their 4 hr bar at GMT -1 and it makes a huge difference in how they trade. On FXDD I can get several pairs to trade fairly well, GBP/JPY being the best. On IBFX I cannot get near the same performance

Well, I would give for consideration:

1. Under normal circumstances should a good workable 'system' not be too much broker depended.

2. If possible very similar results across different pairs.


At least that is what I would be looking for.
__Thanks__ MJ
  • #783
  • Apr 14, 2009 7:54am Apr 14, 2009 7:54am
Quoting M_j

Well, I would give for consideration:

1. Under normal circumstances should a good workable 'system' not be too much broker depended.

2. If possible very similar results across different pairs.


At least that is what I would be looking for.
When the price varies from one broker to another there is no way you can get the same performance. Check these two charts which should be the same.
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  • #784
  • Apr 14, 2009 12:05pm Apr 14, 2009 12:05pm
If you want to see how the broker affects the performance of an EA, then look at PipCop's site. He has the same EA's running across 9 brokers and all vary wildly. For instance, Evolution V is making $361 on the best performing one and -$115 on the worst. Go figure
  • #785
  • Apr 15, 2009 6:23am Apr 15, 2009 6:23am
Hello To All

First Of All I Wana To Tell That Thanks To Every One Who Build And Share A System To Improve Ability Of Useres.especialy 1ka.

In Fact I Followed This Thread, And I Downloaded The Files That The First Page Of This Thread,and Copy Them To My Folders.
But Every Time To I Want To Use It And See How It Works In Past(backtest) An Alert Display System Crash And Close The Platform.
Exactly I Do Not Know What I Must To Do!
I Will Glad I Help Me To Do That.
Thank's Alot.
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  • #786
  • Apr 15, 2009 7:17am Apr 15, 2009 7:17am
Quoting A.shabani
Hello To All

First Of All I Wana To Tell That Thanks To Every One Who Build And Share A System To Improve Ability Of Useres.especialy 1ka.

In Fact I Followed This Thread, And I Downloaded The Files That The First Page Of This Thread,and Copy Them To My Folders.
But Every Time To I Want To Use It And See How It Works In Past(backtest) An Alert Display System Crash And Close The Platform.
Exactly I Do Not Know What I Must To Do!
I Will Glad I Help Me To Do That.
Thank's Alot.
you should upgrade your MT4 to v220 version at least
  • #787
  • Apr 15, 2009 9:12am Apr 15, 2009 9:12am
hello dear $aly.

thank's alot for your comment.
but how can i find and download this version.(ofcoures my mean is which website)?
thank's again.
  • #788
  • Apr 15, 2009 9:26am Apr 15, 2009 9:26am
Quoting A.shabani
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An Alert Display System Crash And Close The Platform.
Exactly I Do Not Know What I Must To Do!
I Will Glad I Help Me To Do That.
Thank's Alot.
Hmm, you are the first person to report a crash with the EA. I can only think that, as $aly suggests, there is an issue with your older version of MT4. Build 223 is the latest one. You may be able to download it from your broker, alternatively download it from here.

Note that you may need to set up your broker's server details and account again. Make a note of everything and backup the directory before you install the new one, just in case you need to back-out the update. There's also a potential issue that the broker will not talk to the new client, but I'm not sure about that.
  • #789
  • Apr 15, 2009 9:44am Apr 15, 2009 9:44am
Quoting A.shabani
hello dear $aly.

thank's alot for your comment.
but how can i find and download this version.(ofcoures my mean is which website)?
thank's again.
your broker is Fibo Group ...it 's mine too... follow up this link to download v223 version
http://www.fibogroup.com/files/program/fg4setup.exe
regards,
  • #790
  • Apr 15, 2009 9:48am Apr 15, 2009 9:48am
Cumulative trading charts. Last weeks charts are here.

EURJPY and GBPJPY are the big losers overall.

Note that 0900 GMT is still the best time to trade, but is not as profitiable as it once was. I think this is the issue we've talked about where the change to DST has caused a shift in the trading patterns. We'll see over the course of the next month or so.
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  • #791
  • Edited 10:35am Apr 15, 2009 10:06am | Edited 10:35am
Attached are the individual currency charts showing when it's a good time to trade. Note that these results are from Alpari UK's demo feed and the hours are GMT+1 on the 30M charts using Outer bar IBs. The results date from late Jan. The EA has been configured with default settings and has no optimisations applied.

The previous weeks charts are here.
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  • Edited 10:36am Apr 15, 2009 10:07am | Edited 10:36am
... and the rest ...
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  • #793
  • Apr 15, 2009 11:00am Apr 15, 2009 11:00am
Hi

Thank's God.
Thank's A Lot Dear "1ka" And Dear "$aly" ,for Your Help.
Actualy, I Download A New Version And It Fix My Problem.
For Now I Wana Try To Opti That Ea.

Thank's A Gain.
  • #794
  • Apr 15, 2009 11:03am Apr 15, 2009 11:03am
Quoting A.shabani
...
For Now I Wana Try To Opti That Ea.
...
Please feedback anything you find of interest
  • #795
  • Apr 15, 2009 3:25pm Apr 15, 2009 3:25pm
1ka. You still fight the 30m TF.
Why, for god's sake?
  • #796
  • Apr 15, 2009 3:51pm Apr 15, 2009 3:51pm
Quoting smilee89
1ka. You still fight the 30m TF.
Why, for god's sake?
Smilee89,
I don't want to answer for 1ka but why do you insist so much?
My demo forward testing on 30m is not bad. My back-testing on 4hrs hasn't shown anything interesting (using 1ka's EA on FxPro).
If you have 4hrs parameters for 1ka's EA that we can test, post them up. Otherwise, when your EA is ready for testing we could try there...
  • #797
  • Apr 16, 2009 2:23am Apr 16, 2009 2:23am
Quoting smilee89
1ka. You still fight the 30m TF.
Why, for god's sake?
Because I don't want to give up on the 30M just yet. I'm the sort of trader who keeps pushing the SL back on a losing trade - that's why I prefer EA's

Seriously though, if I move to 4H then there are a limited number of opportunities for me to trade. I don't leave my computer running all the time so, looking at Alpari UK, the 4H IBs that I could trade are at 0400, 0800, 1200 and possibly 1600. Not too bad, since these are peak London trading times, but I'd need to investigate whether these are the best times on 4H.

Another reason was that I didn't want to lose the history of forward testing trades at 30M. But, since these are affected by DST change, to one degree or another, then I'm not sure that this data is worth as much as I thought.

I might run a few back tests at 4H to see if I can get any better results. I recall that we've tried this in the past and not seen a great improvement. That said, 30M isn't so great either.

===

Does anyone use a 'netbook' as a trading platform? These are the small form laptops that sell for around £300. I'm thinking of buying one of these and leaving it running 24H.
  • #798
  • Apr 16, 2009 3:09am Apr 16, 2009 3:09am
Quoting 1ka
Seriously though, if I move to 4H then there are a limited number of opportunities for me to trade.
We don't need many trades, we need good win ratio!!
  • #799
  • Apr 16, 2009 8:20am Apr 16, 2009 8:20am
Quoting 1ka

Does anyone use a 'netbook' as a trading platform? These are the small form laptops that sell for around £300. I'm thinking of buying one of these and leaving it running 24H.

Acer Aspire One works great for me. For viewing/charting one chart at a time is better (processing is as good as my big laptop).
  • #800
  • Apr 16, 2009 8:35am Apr 16, 2009 8:35am
Back on the EA subject:

I had given up on the stochastics or pivot point features but after you created the head-fake feature (thanks again for the quick response on that...) I revisited them. Combining the head-fake with pivot and/or stochastics I got 100% winners in one case (EURUSD 30m, Feb2009-April2009). The catch is that with this many filters I only got 8 trades for the 2-month period (still 100% winners)
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