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  • #481
  • Apr 1, 2009 3:09am Apr 1, 2009 3:09am
Quoting Willowgal
Hi thatwasme,

I was looking at your latest volume indicator and don't understand what it is telling me. Could you explain this chart and why the marked section is green and also why it seems to bear to resemblance to the CDRW indicator readings ?

Thanks

WG
I am trading right now, but will talk more about it after 15:30 GMT, if Shamous does not mind.
  • #482
  • Apr 1, 2009 4:08am Apr 1, 2009 4:08am
Quoting ShamusFamous
Forget the count for a moment (that was my point) What about the relative size of the bars between the two? ie a high vol bar on demo is also a high vol on real? or no?

My point is:
Not Sure..just check attachment below..(Using GU M5)
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  • #483
  • Apr 1, 2009 4:12am Apr 1, 2009 4:12am
GU 1H
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  • #484
  • Apr 1, 2009 4:38am Apr 1, 2009 4:38am
Quoting thatwasme
I am trading right now, but will talk more about it after 15:30 GMT, if Shamous does not mind.
Thanks very much
  • #485
  • Apr 1, 2009 5:40am Apr 1, 2009 5:40am
Quoting Mini J
GU 1H
Well, by watching both comparisons, I would say they are generally the same (very little differences);

The little difference in the colour of 1 bar, I think, can also be caused by differences in the spread, because that's better volume indi, which correlates the volume with its spread;

In my case anyway, I use CDRW volume, which paints volume correlating the size with the 2 previous volume bars, and in that point, both charts seem the same.
  • #486
  • Apr 1, 2009 5:54am Apr 1, 2009 5:54am
Quoting tonirai
Well, by watching both comparisons, I would say they are generally the same (very little differences);

The little difference in the colour of 1 bar, I think, can also be caused by differences in the spread, because that's better volume indi, which correlates the volume with its spread;

In my case anyway, I use CDRW volume, which paints volume correlating the size with the 2 previous volume bars, and in that point, both charts seem the same.
I agree. Relationally these two charts are identical. That was my point.
The trend always ends.
  • #487
  • Apr 1, 2009 5:55am Apr 1, 2009 5:55am
Quoting thatwasme
I am trading right now, but will talk more about it after 15:30 GMT, if Shamous does not mind.
Of course this is fine silly This is also why I suggested posting a chart or two to help people to see what to look for when using the volume you tools you code.
The trend always ends.
  • #488
  • Apr 1, 2009 6:04am Apr 1, 2009 6:04am
Quoting ad2008
"By marking the market either up or down late in the trading session on Friday or the day before a holiday commences".t. Williams

= VSA can be "wrong" too, if SM manipulate the "NEWS"
= VSA EA will be lost @ manipulated NEWS.

Pls comment

Regards,
In the lack of "professional" responses, let me tell you that I think you're focusing in the wrong points. Some considerations of my own (pros can come and correct me later):

- Don't pay too much attention to the news itself... it will be reflected on the chart, and that's what matters - just avoid taking trades right before big news events;

- VSA EA... we don't have one, don't think we will, and I believe we're better that way, because this isn't something purely mechanical... we have to correlate what we are seing in a particular moment to the previous background;

- Background... it isn't about fundamental background, but the background in price and volume itself. Are we in a trend? Is this trend losing steam?

Personally, I analyse VSA in M5 for entrance, checking M15 for accordance;
I look at the background in both, but also at higher TF as H1 and H4, especially checking for trends and areas of S/R, then paying attention to the VSA patterns when we reach those areas.

I hope it helps,
Toni.
  • #489
  • Apr 1, 2009 6:08am Apr 1, 2009 6:08am
Quoting tonirai
In the lack of "professional" responses, let me tell you that I think you're focusing in the wrong points. Some considerations of my own (pros can come and correct me later):

- Don't pay too much attention to the news itself... it will be reflected on the chart, and that's what matters - just avoid taking trades right before big news events;

- VSA EA... we don't have one, don't think we will, and I believe we're better that way, because this isn't something purely mechanical... we have to correlate what we are seing in a particular moment...
Could not have said it better. This is NOT a mechanical method. No EAs here please!

The Background, the current price, the volume is all you need. But, you need to learn how to read it. No Fundies in the VSA method.
  • #490
  • Apr 1, 2009 6:51am Apr 1, 2009 6:51am
Quoting tonirai
In the lack of "professional" responses, let me tell you that I think you're focusing in the wrong points. Some considerations of my own (pros can come and correct me later):

- Don't pay too much attention to the news itself... it will be reflected on the chart, and that's what matters - just avoid taking trades right before big news events;

- VSA EA... we don't have one, don't think we will, and I believe we're better that way, because this isn't something purely mechanical... we have to correlate what we are seing in a particular moment...
Excellent post.
The trend always ends.
  • #491
  • Apr 1, 2009 7:09am Apr 1, 2009 7:09am
Quoting malcolmb14

learn to trade VSA naked baby !!! lol
This has changed the way I trade, but because of the cold floors in my house I have to leave my socks on!

Madog
  • #492
  • Apr 1, 2009 8:31am Apr 1, 2009 8:31am
[quote=tonirai;2643592]

- Background... it isn't about fundamental background, but the background in price and volume itself. Are we in a trend? Is this trend losing steam?

Reply :

Great, thanks
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  • #493
  • Apr 1, 2009 9:04am Apr 1, 2009 9:04am
Malcolm, I know you are GJ expert, so here is the question for you.
We have bad us news, and pros are buying into the weakness(very high vol). Confirmation is on next upbar closing near high. Then it goes down on low vol. Looks like a failed trade to me.
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  • #494
  • Edited 9:47am Apr 1, 2009 9:31am | Edited 9:47am
can't be in chat till later...but can someone break down these last two movements? er, ignore my template, just looking at volume.
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  • #495
  • Apr 1, 2009 9:47am Apr 1, 2009 9:47am
Hi RaverStyleTim2,

Just looking at your last post and I would like to know about the indicator
you have THV ... I would like to use it. Can you share this???

Thanks

trademeister
  • #496
  • Apr 1, 2009 9:56am Apr 1, 2009 9:56am
thats just thv from the trading systems forum so check there lol. doens't serve any use in vsa. just had that particular template pulled up cause its easier on my eyes, but the better volume indicator is at the bottom.
  • #497
  • Apr 1, 2009 10:02am Apr 1, 2009 10:02am
Thanks for replying. The indicator looked interesting..

happy trading
  • #498
  • Apr 1, 2009 11:51am Apr 1, 2009 11:51am
Hey guys....schwartz requested this so........

I added this external variables:
extern bool displayAlert = true;
extern int wick_size_for_Bull_alert = 10;
extern int wick_size_for_Bear_alert = -10;

I dont think that I need to explain this!

Enjoy
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  • #499
  • Apr 1, 2009 12:12pm Apr 1, 2009 12:12pm
How should I interpret the chart? Is it a trade setup?

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  • #500
  • Apr 1, 2009 12:13pm Apr 1, 2009 12:13pm
Quoting Grath
How should I interpret the chart? Is it a trade setup?

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