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  • #201
  • Mar 26, 2009 6:03am Mar 26, 2009 6:03am
Quoting gav
yes I did , but I can't see the arrow and no trade was done.
What can I do?
gav,
is the EA working correctly? is there a smiley next to its name in the upper right corner? check your logs as well, it usually say what errors occured.

also note that the EA doesn't trade very often.
on one pair I had only 8 trades in 3 weeks.
if the EA works correctly just sit and wait.
  • #202
  • Mar 26, 2009 9:07am Mar 26, 2009 9:07am
FXCBS - just yesterday, when I was taking a looksee, they were advertising 'mini-accounts for just $100 deposit.' Haven't looked today - perhaps they took it off...



Quoting hsa013
Damon, Gary

Sorry, didn't really want to go very off topic with ECN discussion, although I think it's in our interest to find the best solution.

So I did some investigation tonight, here's the summary (I won't make any more comments on this):

Activtrades:
- Scalping account is through ECN, although quite high spreads (variable)
- Good reputation, low min a/c opening.
- FSA regulated (UK)

Broco:
- Broco Investor platform is connected to Currenex.
- Good reputation
- Russian company, but licensed by the Financial Services Commission of...
  • #203
  • Mar 26, 2009 9:10am Mar 26, 2009 9:10am
I may be wrong, but there were some cases where I picked other result lines of data, and not necessarily the top one, because it appeared to me that the tested was not always efficient and human intelligence had to be applied.

Quoting hsa013
you can probably set the BE lower, this was the first in the results, but it gave me the same results for 40 or even 35 if I'm not mistaken. I just wanted to be consistent, putting first ranking results everywhere.

But, you know the best values for the others so it takes about 10 seconds to run a test. Try 30 and 40!
  • #204
  • Mar 26, 2009 9:14am Mar 26, 2009 9:14am
Are you loading up just one chart, like M30, only, at a time, or are you loading up several? Which chart, which timeframe? Have you verified that the indi is loaded? Right-click on chart, indicators, etc.


Quoting gav
I don't know why there is no arrow on the chart and no trade .
Please help me
Thanks
  • #205
  • Mar 26, 2009 10:15am Mar 26, 2009 10:15am
Quoting flapper
I may be wrong, but there were some cases where I picked other result lines of data, and not necessarily the top one, because it appeared to me that the tested was not always efficient and human intelligence had to be applied.

I just wanted to be consistent.
Next time I'll post the values where testing gave the same results and you can pick the best as you feel.

FXCBS: they offer other accounts, but only the Pro (opening with 10 grand) is ECN. if I'm not mistaken.
  • #206
  • Mar 26, 2009 2:30pm Mar 26, 2009 2:30pm
Quoting hsa013
gav,
is the EA working correctly? is there a smiley next to its name in the upper right corner? check your logs as well, it usually say what errors occured.

also note that the EA doesn't trade very often.
on one pair I had only 8 trades in 3 weeks.
if the EA works correctly just sit and wait.
yes, there is a smiley . on the common i put V on
enable alerts, allow live trading , allow DLL imports, allow import of external experts.
but there wasn't even one trade.
Can someone hepl me?
thank you
  • #207
  • Mar 26, 2009 2:33pm Mar 26, 2009 2:33pm
can you write me please the parameters for the inputs?
  • #208
  • Mar 26, 2009 4:04pm Mar 26, 2009 4:04pm
Quoting gav
can you write me please the parameters for the inputs?

gav,
go through the thread, and take the post associated to the pair and timeframe you want to apply the EA to.
as several people are testing this (see first post for list) you won't find any centralized collection of parameters yet, rather you have to go through the posts and find the optimum setup and parameters in separate posts.

(all pairs, timeframes and filters have different parameters, and if you don't apply the appropriate one your EA will not trade well.)
  • #209
  • Mar 26, 2009 7:10pm Mar 26, 2009 7:10pm
To all: Concern has been raised on another thread (Learn to trade using VSA) that public posting of EA development may disclose information to parties who may wish to find ways to disable the EA's effectiveness. That sounded pretty cogent to me. As much as I like the freedom of a public forum, I suggest that the testing/disclosure/further development be done in a protected forum.

Reportedly such a forum exists. Or it could be handled by email.

Please post your comments/response.

Steve
  • #210
  • Mar 26, 2009 8:49pm Mar 26, 2009 8:49pm
Quoting Steveg100
To all: Concern has been raised on another thread (Learn to trade using VSA) that public posting of EA development may disclose information to parties who may wish to find ways to disable the EA's effectiveness.
Steve
Thanks Steve for raising the concern here. I think we're aware of the problem. However, due to the anonymity on the internet anyone can get into private forums. Even "agents of evil brokers" disguised as innocent newbies.

Quoting Steveg100
To all:
Reportedly such a forum exists.
Steve
What forum? khmmm... that's just a myth!
  • #211
  • Mar 26, 2009 9:33pm Mar 26, 2009 9:33pm


Quoting hsa013
Thanks Steve for raising the concern here. I think we're aware of the problem. However, due to the anonymity on the internet anyone can get into private forums. Even "agents of evil brokers" disguised as innocent newbies.



What forum? khmmm... that's just a myth!
- Bowen (a.k.a. Wolf)
  • #212
  • Mar 27, 2009 1:52pm Mar 27, 2009 1:52pm
Well, it is hard to know what the solution is (assuming the problem is validly described). I have read that some programmers are using a "steallth mode" in their EAS, designed to mask where target and stop loss entries are made. I have no experience as to whether such methods are successful. With the well publicized FAPTurbo, the dealers simply raised their spreads during the time the EA is set to run, thereby fugging up the results. Scalping systems may be more at risk.

Steve
  • #213
  • Mar 28, 2009 9:27am Mar 28, 2009 9:27am
Quoting Steveg100
Well, it is hard to know what the solution is (assuming the problem is validly described). I have read that some programmers are using a "steallth mode" in their EAS, designed to mask where target and stop loss entries are made. I have no experience as to whether such methods are successful. With the well publicized FAPTurbo, the dealers simply raised their spreads during the time the EA is set to run, thereby fugging up the results. Scalping systems may be more at risk.

Steve
Steve Gary is working on a "stealth mode" for the next release. He made mention of this in one of his last post I believe.

Richard
  • #214
  • Edited 10:19am Mar 28, 2009 9:50am | Edited 10:19am
Optimization of 3/9/09-3/28/09

time to trade1 = 6
time to trade2 =19
Friday Close =17

GBP/USD H1 (SLF)
Slope= 11
SL = 40
TS = 10

BE = 10
TP = 0 Next best was 60 with $200 profit


Profit = $300.00 Profit Factor = 3.14
26 Trades- 22 Winners = (84.62%) 4 Loss = (15.38%)


Absolute drawdown $57 Maximal drawdown $123.00 (18.47%)
Consecutive Wins 6
Consecutive Loss 1

time to trade1 =0
time to trade1 =24
Friday Close =24

Profit was $180.24-almost half of standard trade time.


Richard

  • #215
  • Mar 28, 2009 12:38pm Mar 28, 2009 12:38pm
Here I go again.

I want to apologize to everyone and especially to Damon and Gary.

I had recently gotten my computer working perfectly then for some strange reason I got the notion that it would be wise of myself to download Windows Automatic Updates.

So I did.

Stupid FOOL that I was!

As soon as I did that the computer no longer worked worth a sh*t, several programs would no longer work at all, it froze up seven times and used up 8 gigs of memory to boot!

So, you know what I did next...

Complete deconstruction/reconstruction.

All I needed was EAZ FIX or ACRONIS TRUE IMAGE and it would have taken 10 minutes max - instead of days.

I have had it fixed for a few days now and was contemplating whether any attempts to help this late in the game would be worthwhile or not.

Bottom line, I highly recommend either of those two programs above so you don't have to go through what I had to.

BTW - I picked EAZ-FIX as I got the free 15 day trial.

So again, that is why I have been putting off posting over here.
  • #216
  • Mar 28, 2009 5:30pm Mar 28, 2009 5:30pm
Richard: Thanks for the information about Gary's working on a stealth mode.

Silverngold: I sympathize profoundly about your computer repair problem. I have spent too many hours dealing with some of the most nasty viruses. Thanks for the info about EAZ-FIX and Acronis True Image.

Steve
  • #217
  • Edited 7:15am Mar 29, 2009 12:21am | Edited 7:15am
Here are the optimized results for the period 3/9/09 - 3/28/09 using GBPUSD 30M, SLF filter:

Net profit: 16.48
Slope: 5
Stop Loss: 24
Trailing stop: 28
Break Even Take profit: 0 (Multiple results from 0 to 140)
Gross Profit: 55.70
Gross Loss: 39.22
Profit Factor: 1.42
Maximum Drawdown: 12.60
Long Positions won: 24 (79.17%)
Short Positions won: 26 (57.69%)


Steve
  • #218
  • Mar 29, 2009 2:38pm Mar 29, 2009 2:38pm
Results for EUR-USD 3/09/09 - 3/28/09
Time Frame: 30 min
Filter: SSF

FastSlopePeriod: 1
SlowSlopePeriod: 3
Stop Loss: 33
Trailing Stop: 45
Break Even at Profit: 26
Take Profit: 60

Total net profit 146.00
Gross profit 474.00
Gross loss -328.00
Profit factor 1.45
Expected payoff 2.86
Absolute drawdown 96.00
Maximal drawdown 165.00 (1.64%)
Relative drawdown 1.64% (165.00)
Total trades 51
Profit trades (% of total) 36 (70.59%)
Loss trades (% of total) 15 (29.41%)
  • #219
  • Mar 29, 2009 4:22pm Mar 29, 2009 4:22pm
Optimization of 3/9/09-3/28/09

EUR/USD H1 (SLF)
Slope= 21
S/L = 10
T/S = 42

B/E = 10
T/P = 112

Profit = 33.80

These results were for the original trading times:

time to trade1 = 6
time to trade2 =19
Friday Close =17

When I ran optimization again with 24-hour trading, all the setting remained the same with profit = 36.80 (not much of a difference).

Also as a side note, the following T/S values were virtually the same:
0,1,2,3,43,44,49,50 (0.10 difference in profit from first to last in this group)
  • #220
  • Mar 29, 2009 5:54pm Mar 29, 2009 5:54pm
Results for EUR-USD 3/09/09 - 3/28/09
Time Frame: 1 Hour
Filter: SSF

FastSlopePeriod: 4
SlowSlopePeriod: 8
Stop Loss: 30
Trailing Stop: 28
Break Even at Profit: 28
Take Profit: 37

Total net profit 161.00
Gross profit 191.00
Gross loss -30.00
Profit factor 6.37
Expected payoff 13.42
Absolute drawdown 1.00
Maximal drawdown 45.00 (0.44%)
Relative drawdown 0.44% (45.00)
Total trades 12
Profit trades (% of total) 11 (91.67%)
Loss trades (% of total) 1 (8.33%)
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