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  • #481
  • Feb 19, 2009 6:29am Feb 19, 2009 6:29am
Quoting agend
which broker do u use that changes spread ? i'm using only ones with fixed spread, but anyway i could think about this - what kind of sound would u like for the spread change?

on www.freesound.org u can find plenty of sound files - u can choose some, maybe together we will fix somthing

arek

You are not allowed to attach wav files on the forum - if you PM me your email I will send an alert .wav file for the 'spread change alert'

Have also got an alternative 'uptick' sound
  • #482
  • Feb 19, 2009 6:42am Feb 19, 2009 6:42am
interesting guys indeed. im using it at the minute, i think this is a great tool for the method of price reading. Im gonna try and record some fitting sounds from my guitar onto it and see if that will make it more listenable. Like a bend up for an up and a bend down for down.. lol
  • #483
  • Feb 19, 2009 6:47am Feb 19, 2009 6:47am
Great idea!

Thanks, Willowgal, and Arek, for this.

I think the spread depends also depends on whether broker is a 5 or 6 digit one. FXPro seems to have 6 digits, and so the spread is changing all the time (literally, every second)(see their MT4 demo). Audio will drive you crazy.

Attached indi shows it digitally (top left corner of chart).

Arek, can you program something that will show the changing spread graphically as a line chart/indi (ie. so you can see it changing sequentially through time, as liquidity enters/exits at certain price levels)? Not sure how choppy the line might be (may be useless, I don't know, but we could throw an MA or bollinger band on it).
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Igel-Spread.mq4   1 KB | 314 downloads
File Type: ex4 Igel-Spread.ex4   1 KB | 288 downloads
  • #484
  • Feb 19, 2009 7:19am Feb 19, 2009 7:19am
Quoting agend
that's the indicator - it uses only 2 standard wav files from mt4 platform, but u can change it for any others, the wav file must be located in the sounds folder so for example on my computer it is : "D:FXDD - MetaTradersounds\"

what is left to do is make another sounds for ticks bigger then 1, ex. 2 ticks up in one move, 3,4,5 and so on

arek
Hi Arek,

Have watched (and listened to) this for a while I think you definitely need to try to make the more significant ticks (ie. bigger jumps/falls) more audible in some way ... how ?

I would have thought 2 beeps for a move of 2, 3 beeps for 3 etc. might work?
  • #485
  • Feb 19, 2009 7:42am Feb 19, 2009 7:42am
ok guys, this is what i have so far : 2 versions - one just the old one with one kind of sound for up and downtick + new sounds (i hope u can make better ones and send them here) - maybe ones from guitar would be great

and second version with 3 kinds of sounds for multi up and down ticks - and there is a problem - it's working ok with eurusd (it's moving pretty slow) but with eurjpy it is losing some pips (i mean don't play the sound for them) - the reason can be i fucked up the code or the sounds are to long for the indicator - i mean the way indicators are working in mt4 - for example : we have triple uptick and indi plays the sound "ThreeUpTickBeep.wav" which last for 0.5s - so the indicator is busy until it finished playing the soundfile, it's done but in the meanwhile some ticks have passed - it's how i understand the inner working - i might be wrong, maybe someone with deeper knowledge could enlight me.

Possible solution would be making ".dll" indicator which could play the sound in other thread - which would be hard for me, im not that good - well it would take me a lot of time

or

simpler solution - make shorter audio files - longest one would last about 0.2s - and someone's help with that would be really appreciated - maybe thebigadam with his guitar could help.

let me know what u think
arek
  • #486
  • Feb 19, 2009 7:44am Feb 19, 2009 7:44am
the files
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip audioticks.zip   276 KB | 257 downloads
  • #487
  • Feb 19, 2009 7:55am Feb 19, 2009 7:55am
hey good idea about multi ticks. i messed around with guitar sounds earlier, but found electronic sounds to be better, cuz guitar is too..harsh..as the note is plucked instead of just starting electronicly. Couldnt listen to the sharpness all day lol. Got 2 files from that sound website though, a nice high pitched class clink for up and a nice low pitched pop for down. Ill try and edit them to very short sounds and ill let u know how i get on in 5 mins.
  • #488
  • Feb 19, 2009 8:02am Feb 19, 2009 8:02am
hey ok, got both files down to 0.09 secs each. Want me to send them to you?

Edit: Actually,i see now what you mean about the 2tick and 3tick files. Only thing i could suggest is using a higher pitch of sounds for each higher amount of up ticks and a lower low sound for an increasing amount of downticks, if you get me? Thats what im gonna try to do, along with making the higher tick counts louder.
  • #489
  • Feb 19, 2009 8:14am Feb 19, 2009 8:14am
Quoting thebigadam
hey ok, got both files down to 0.09 secs each. Want me to send them to you?

Edit: Actually,i see now what you mean about the 2tick and 3tick files. Only thing i could suggest is using a higher pitch of sounds for each higher amount of up ticks and a lower low sound for an increasing amount of downticks, if you get me? Thats what im gonna try to do, along with making the higher tick counts louder.

i can see u know what u are talking about - yes please make some files if u can - i'm tring to understand why the indicator is missing some ticks, i'm getting dizzy

i hope peter will not mind trashing his journal

thanks in advance
arek
  • #490
  • Feb 19, 2009 8:15am Feb 19, 2009 8:15am
yea, sorry pete.. lol. Ill be about 15 mins with the differing pitch files
  • #491
  • Feb 19, 2009 8:32am Feb 19, 2009 8:32am
Quoting agend
i can see u know what u are talking about - yes please make some files if u can - i'm tring to understand why the indicator is missing some ticks, i'm getting dizzy

i hope peter will not mind trashing his journal

thanks in advance
arek
What about not making any sound for the very minute tick movements, just use the audio for the more significant jumps ?
  • #492
  • Feb 19, 2009 8:41am Feb 19, 2009 8:41am
hey agend, could you help me on this. my price feed has another decimal place, and moves in all sorts of increments, so i did the following, but its not proper programming language on the "and" bit lol, but i think you'll see what i need. Could u tell me how to program it properly?

"

if (Bid > 0 and <= (OldPrice + (10*Point)) ) PlaySound(OneUpTickBeep); // 1 uptick
if (Bid > (OldPrice + (10*Point)) and == (OldPrice + (20*Point)) ) PlaySound(TwoUpTickBeep); // 2 uptick
if (Bid > (OldPrice + (20*Point)) ) PlaySound(ThreeUpTickBeep); // 3 uptick +++ and more

"

off to class now be back in an hour or so. laters
  • #493
  • Feb 19, 2009 8:47am Feb 19, 2009 8:47am
Quoting Willowgal
I would think that is classic Shakes trading mathematician .... nice one.

May I ask which charts they are as I would love it if Metetrader had 5 second charts... I am sure this method would be a lot easier to pick up with those.
Yeah, it's oanda. Oanda offers 5-sec, 10-sec, 30-sec, 1-min, ...chart. Although they don't have anything longer than 1-day.

I like the 5-sec chart. You can really feel the pulse of the market. Hehe. Although aren't proper tick chart the ultimate resolution? Anybody know the answer to this?
  • #494
  • Feb 19, 2009 9:15am Feb 19, 2009 9:15am
i've fixed the indicator - doesn't miss the ticks now (that was about type conversion bug) - at least it shouldn't - now it's a matter of finding/making proper audio files

maybe we should make more files for 4,5,6 and more up and downticks - what u think

u must load the .wav files to mt4/sounds/ folder and the indicator to experts/indicator/

arek
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip audioticks2.zip   276 KB | 284 downloads
  • #495
  • Feb 19, 2009 9:26am Feb 19, 2009 9:26am
Quoting thebigadam
hey agend, could you help me on this. my price feed has another decimal place, and moves in all sorts of increments, so i did the following, but its not proper programming language on the "and" bit lol, but i think you'll see what i need. Could u tell me how to program it properly?

"

if (Bid >...

try to make it this way :

int TickChange = MathRound(((Bid - OldPrice) / Point));

if ( (TickChange > 0) && (TickChange <= 10) ) PlaySound(OneUpTickBeep);
if ( (TickChange > 10) && (TickChange <= 20) ) PlaySound(TwoUpTickBeep);
if ( TickChange > 20 ) PlaySound(ThreeUpTickBeep);


it's similar in the last indi version
and so on, "&&" stands for AND in mql

hope that helps - i'm not sure it will work

what about the .wav files mate?

arek
  • #496
  • Feb 19, 2009 10:21am Feb 19, 2009 10:21am
just in from class, give me 10 mins to test them and modify/zip etc.
  • #497
  • Feb 19, 2009 10:37am Feb 19, 2009 10:37am
sounds.. Havnt really got to test them out as most of the ticks on my price feed are one tickers. But the way my coding is done, BIG THANK BY THE WAY FOR THE CODE , it seemsto have the useful side effect of giving multiple sounds as multiple ticks occur. I think this is to do with it playing one for the 1 tick movement and 1 for the 2 tick movement aswell...i duno though. Anyways good going nice indicator.
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File Type: zip sounds.zip   63 KB | 292 downloads
  • #498
  • Feb 19, 2009 10:40am Feb 19, 2009 10:40am
Will have to check this later.
  • #499
  • Feb 19, 2009 10:53am Feb 19, 2009 10:53am
Where is petelearning? Doesn't he trade at this time?


Topgun
"Success is not a fantasy, it's a formula." - MTI
  • #500
  • Feb 19, 2009 11:05am Feb 19, 2009 11:05am
Quoting thebigadam
sounds.. Havnt really got to test them out as most of the ticks on my price feed are one tickers. But the way my coding is done, BIG THANK BY THE WAY FOR THE CODE , it seemsto have the useful side effect of giving multiple sounds as multiple ticks occur. I think this is to do with it playing one for the 1 tick movement and 1 for the 2 tick movement aswell...i duno though. Anyways good going nice indicator.
thanks mate, but i can see now that the sounds length isn't a problem - that was a bug in my code - and i belive that double and triple beeps sounds better, so maybe you could make them, i belive that something with length 0,3s should work fine

i'd make them on my own if i could , btw what program do u use, i've just downloaded adacity today, have u heard about fl studio ?

thanks in advance
arek
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