I haven't really been caring where the 30sma ends up. Mainly that I get the 30 SMA cross and 0 line cross. If I get a SMA cross after a 0 line reject, that's a trade I'll take too. I have had a few nice trades, that after up pips and have a set amount of profit locked in I have added to the trade on re-crosses of the stoch in the direction of the 1st trade and the trend. Hope that answers your question. I'm not completely awake right now, so don't know how much sence i'm making.