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  • First Post: Mar 22, 2007 2:25pm Mar 22, 2007 2:25pm
  •  MAKANFOREX
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hello ..i have a big question MAYBE .. or funny question

- em can currency pair go to zero ..
examples .. GU NOW 1.9644 then 10 years or 20 years .....
GU go to 0.0010 or 0.0000

It can be ???? yes or not give me u reason with fact... thankzzz
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  •  denonline
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nuclear war??
 
 
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  •  FXTerminator
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hello ..i have a big question MAYBE .. or funny question

- em can currency pair go to zero ..
examples .. GU NOW 1.9644 then 10 years or 20 years .....
GU go to 0.0010 or 0.0000

It can be ???? yes or not give me u reason with fact... thankzzz
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You don't have to worry about that, if the currency is near zero, the OTHER currency (remember, we trade with currency pair) will now be worth millions
 
 
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  •  turbokaos
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confederate currency
 
 
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  •  Darkstar
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hello ..i have a big question MAYBE .. or funny question

- em can currency pair go to zero ..
examples .. GU NOW 1.9644 then 10 years or 20 years .....
GU go to 0.0010 or 0.0000

It can be ???? yes or not give me u reason with fact... thankzzz
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Conceptually or technically? It makes a huge difference...
 
 
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  •  MAKANFOREX
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Conceptually or technically? It makes a huge difference...
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can u explain what that difference ?? then what u think about my question ?? . thankz
 
 
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  •  MAKANFOREX
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confederate currency
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what it mean ?
 
 
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  •  Kurka Fund
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this stuff is worth allot to collectors now..
Keep it simple stoopid....
 
 
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  •  Kurka Fund
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hello ..i have a big question MAYBE .. or funny question

- em can currency pair go to zero ..
examples .. GU NOW 1.9644 then 10 years or 20 years .....
GU go to 0.0010 or 0.0000

It can be ???? yes or not give me u reason with fact... thankzzz
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Just think - BOOM BOOM - but if that happens the spot price of the curreny wont really matter.
Keep it simple stoopid....
 
 
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  •  Darkstar
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can u explain what that difference ?? then what u think about my question ?? . thankz
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Technically no currency can ever drop to zero because of the way prices are calculated. Take USD/JPY for example. The USD is always valued at 1. Even if the value of USD drops, in relation to JPY it remains 1 forever.

Let’s say that 1 USD is equivalent to 118 JPY. If the value of USD drops precipitously, the number of yen it is capable of purchasing is the only figure that drops (say it moved to 100). If it fell far enough at some point it could achieve parity with JPY (or 1 usd = 1 jpy). But this still isn't a floor of any sort. A continued price decline would simply change to a decimal value (ie- USD/JPY would be priced at 0.9999). Because decimal values can be infinitely small, you can technically have the value of the dollar drop forever with no floor.

If the JPY value were to drop precipitously it would just work in the opposite direction. 118 could rise to 999999999999, but that still wouldn't be any kind of cap. Numbers could be infinitely large so there is no hard limit on the relative value.

So technically no, a currency can never really have zero value. Were either of these scenarios to occur, the actual purchasing power would be so low as to cause political revolution. This is the conceptual part. When a currency is worth so little that its users abandon it for something better, it has lost all value. It is the termination of use that eliminates all value, not the current price thereof.
 
 
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  •  MAKANFOREX
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Technically no currency can ever drop to zero because of the way prices are calculated. Take USD/JPY for example. The USD is always valued at 1. Even if the value of USD drops, in relation to JPY it remains 1 forever.

Let’s say that 1 USD is equivalent to 118 JPY. If the value of USD drops precipitously, the number of yen it is capable of purchasing is the only figure that drops (say it moved to 100). If it fell far enough at some point it could achieve parity with JPY (or 1 usd = 1 jpy). But this still isn't a floor of any sort. A continued price decline would simply change to a decimal value (ie- USD/JPY would be priced at 0.9999). Because decimal values can be infinitely small, you can technically have the value of the dollar drop forever with no floor.

If the JPY value were to drop precipitously it would just work in the opposite direction. 118 could rise to 999999999999, but that still wouldn't be any kind of cap. Numbers could be infinitely large so there is no hard limit on the relative value.

So technically no, a currency can never really have zero value. Were either of these scenarios to occur, the actual purchasing power would be so low as to cause political revolution. This is the conceptual part. When a currency is worth so little that its users abandon it for something better, it has lost all value. It is the termination of use that eliminates all value, not the current price thereof.
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nice thankz bro
 
 
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  •  turbokaos
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this stuff is worth allot to collectors now..
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LOL maybe, I hope they don't try and pay their mortgage with it
 
 
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  •  turbokaos
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it just a currency that has gone to zero for what ever reason.

same as Spanish peseta, becasue they use the Euro now
 
 
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  •  MAKANFOREX
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it just a currency that has gone to zero for what ever reason.

same as Spanish peseta, becasue they use the Euro now
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bro can u give what spanish peseta price before they use the euro ..or other currency about that ...emmm how about trader who was open post at peseta currency ??.. thankz
 
 
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  •  parameswara
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I think a currency can approach but never run to zero (what mathematicians call an asymptote). For example, Zimbabwe is experiencing hyperinflation at the moment, meaning that every day one US dollar buys exponentially more of the local currency and one Zimbabwe dollar is worth an amount in US dollars that gets closer and closer to zero every day (but can never reach it).

What this means in practical terms is that the local currency becomes virtually worthless for foreign exchange purposes, but may still be useful within the country. In Cambodia, for example, there's a dual-currency system in which locals do business in Cambodian riel (about 4,000 to the dollar) and tourists pay in US dollars. If you can get the 'local price' for a meal, it ends up costing a negligible amount if you convert the riels into USD.

Confederate currency was issued by the Confederate States of America (i.e. the South) during the Civil War to finance the war effort. Its value was based on the future ability of the Confederacy to redeem it for gold, so as confidence in the Confederacy's chances diminished the value of the currency fell, meaning that it was virtually worthless by the end of the war. Limited access to currency printing presses meant that the notes were of poor quality and thus easily counterfeited, which also devalued the currency. A similar phenomenon occurred during colonial times, when the 'Continental Currency' issued by the rebels saw its value drop during the Revolutionary War.
 
 
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  •  Mina
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a pair currency can't go to zero because you'll have to be dividing by zero eg: for usd/jpy to equal zero usd value haas to be zero ie: that currency no longer exists
 
 
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  • Apr 20, 2007 9:03am Apr 20, 2007 9:03am
  •  conasounga
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Technically no currency can ever drop to zero because of the way prices are calculated. Take USD/JPY for example. The USD is always valued at 1. Even if the value of USD drops, in relation to JPY it remains 1 forever.

Let’s say that 1 USD is equivalent to 118 JPY. If the value of USD drops precipitously, the number of yen it is capable of purchasing is the only figure that drops (say it moved to 100). If it fell far enough at some point it could achieve parity with JPY (or 1 usd = 1 jpy). But this still isn't a floor of any sort. A continued price decline would simply change to a decimal value (ie- USD/JPY would be priced at 0.9999). Because decimal values can be infinitely small, you can technically have the value of the dollar drop forever with no floor.

If the JPY value were to drop precipitously it would just work in the opposite direction. 118 could rise to 999999999999, but that still wouldn't be any kind of cap. Numbers could be infinitely large so there is no hard limit on the relative value.

So technically no, a currency can never really have zero value. Were either of these scenarios to occur, the actual purchasing power would be so low as to cause political revolution. This is the conceptual part. When a currency is worth so little that its users abandon it for something better, it has lost all value. It is the termination of use that eliminates all value, not the current price thereof.
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Darkstar,

Is it true that you are the original author of Wikipedia? LOL
 
 
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  •  Ted1983
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Have you guys never seen those pictures of kids in the street playing with mountains of Deutchmarks in the 1920s. Thats about as close to zero as you can get!http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...%3Den%26sa%3DN
 
 
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  • Apr 21, 2007 11:28am Apr 21, 2007 11:28am
  •  Equilibrium
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hyperinflation. google it.

a currency can never lose its value, only devaluation of the currency. A million (even billions, infinity) of X Dollar to 1 B Dollar.

Sorry if it sounds complicated, am not really good in explaining :
 
 
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  • Apr 21, 2007 11:10pm Apr 21, 2007 11:10pm
  •  laodeabdul
  • | Joined Dec 2006 | Status: Currency Trader | 148 Posts
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hello ..i have a big question MAYBE .. or funny question

- em can currency pair go to zero ..
examples .. GU NOW 1.9644 then 10 years or 20 years .....
GU go to 0.0010 or 0.0000

It can be ???? yes or not give me u reason with fact... thankzzz
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Alien attack.....
 
 
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