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  • #241
  • Nov 11, 2008 9:38am Nov 11, 2008 9:38am
Mgrid with bollinger showed 4.5% profit in week 1 with max 1% drawdown. So far so good with more conservative settings.
Trading only eurusd with 0.1 lot on 100K account with 1:200 leverage.
  • #242
  • Nov 11, 2008 1:20pm Nov 11, 2008 1:20pm
Quoting soldintime
Trading only eurusd with 0.1 lot on 100K account with 1:200 leverage.

To all:

I must ask that if we are going to post results, lets please post them with settings that are typical/feasible for members of this forum. As far as I am concerned no one with $100,000 set aside for trading is looking at this post.

Lets aim for the $50-$2500 account range and see what we can do with that.

And ofcourse this EA performs well with that much margin, since it uses a martingale it just hasn't reached the "nth" level where the martingale fails on an account that big.
  • #243
  • Nov 11, 2008 1:47pm Nov 11, 2008 1:47pm
Is anyone using these EA's with Grids/Martingale on a LIVE account ?

My understanding is that most brokers (if not all) will close you out on a REAL account.
  • #244
  • Nov 11, 2008 10:42pm Nov 11, 2008 10:42pm
Pretty sure I'm about to drop the pairs marked in red. I will test for one more day with these 9 pairs.
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  • #245
  • Edited 3:15am Nov 12, 2008 3:05am | Edited 3:15am
Quoting Jwentro
To all:

I must ask that if we are going to post results, lets please post them with settings that are typical/feasible for members of this forum. As far as I am concerned no one with $100,000 set aside for trading is looking at this post.

Lets aim for the $50-$2500 account range and see what we can do with that.

And ofcourse this EA performs well with that much margin, since it uses a martingale it just hasn't reached the "nth" level where the martingale fails on an account that big.
The number one reason that most accounts blow up is that they are under capitalised for the risk people are taking. Why do you think micro accounts were invented as 99% of people loose all their money in them.

When you trade with 100K capital preservation is most important. I think 4.5% in 1 week is a fantastic result. If you can replicate the 100K mind set on a 1K account you have a winner.

By the way I have tested other Martingale systems that were supposed to be save and I have managed to even blow up a 100K account. :-(
  • #246
  • Nov 12, 2008 7:28am Nov 12, 2008 7:28am
Quoting soldintime
If you can replicate the 100K mind set on a 1K account you have a winner.

Then shouldn't you be testing with a 1K account? just trying to be as real as possible w/o live testing.
  • #247
  • Nov 12, 2008 10:40am Nov 12, 2008 10:40am
Quoting Jwentro
Pretty sure I'm about to drop the pairs marked in red. I will test for one more day with these 9 pairs.
JW, are you using the same settings on all the pairs? If so, the increment should be adjusted according to each pair´s volatility.
By the way, are you still using the original Post#1 size progression (1-2-3)?
  • #248
  • Nov 12, 2008 10:47am Nov 12, 2008 10:47am
Any morph?
If everyone believes it, it will work.
  • #249
  • Nov 12, 2008 10:51am Nov 12, 2008 10:51am
Hi FF,
Are you still following this thread?
I have a request for you. For EA mGrid ver7 or BBmGrid, can you make changes to limit the cycle to say 8-10 instead of infinite loop? Now I understand that by doing this there are chances that one may end up with loss i.e., if buy orders are more than sell orders and the price goes down and hit TP and SL and vice versa.
But this way we can prevent the account from blowing out when we are are not there to babysit the account. Later we can manually intervent to reduce losses in the event of price going in the opposite direction as explained earlier.
Thanks in anticipation and waiting for your response.
  • #250
  • Nov 12, 2008 11:25am Nov 12, 2008 11:25am
Can anyone please detail how does the mGridv7 places the pending orders? The EA was just posted without explainign the logics behind the buy/sell stops.

Thanks
  • #251
  • Nov 12, 2008 11:42am Nov 12, 2008 11:42am
Quoting Middleastern
Can anyone please detail how does the mGridv7 places the pending orders? The EA was just posted without explainign the logics behind the buy/sell stops.

Thanks
The EA mGrid ver7 places places buy stops / sell stops orders at same price as the first orders but 3 times the original lot size. It is not explained in the thread as you mentioned. Hope this helps.
  • #252
  • Nov 12, 2008 12:17pm Nov 12, 2008 12:17pm
Quoting desi
The EA mGrid ver7 places places buy stops / sell stops orders at same price as the first orders but 3 times the original lot size. It is not explained in the thread as you mentioned. Hope this helps.
Thanks, Desi. I noticed though that in some cases when a pending order is triggered, no matching opposite stops are placed.
When a first level order is triggered, it does place the three stop orders, but when the second level order is triggered it doesn´t. Hope you understand what I want to know.

Thanks
  • #253
  • Nov 12, 2008 12:49pm Nov 12, 2008 12:49pm
The logic is fine.......test ea by using visual test....it will help you to understand the proces better!
Regards
forexflash
  • #254
  • Nov 12, 2008 1:04pm Nov 12, 2008 1:04pm
Quoting Middleastern
Thanks, Desi. I noticed though that in some cases when a pending order is triggered, no matching opposite stops are placed.
When a first level order is triggered, it does place the three stop orders, but when the second level order is triggered it doesn´t. Hope you understand what I want to know.

Thanks
Interesting, I have not come across such a situation. At all levels, opposite stop orders are placed whenever an order is trigerred.

Forexflash,
Your thoughts on modifications I explained couple of posts earlier.
Thanks.
  • #255
  • Nov 12, 2008 1:09pm Nov 12, 2008 1:09pm
Quoting FOREXflash
The logic is fine.......test ea by using visual test....it will help you to understand the proces better!
Regards
Hi Flash,
I am not questioning the logic, but since I really am interested in your system, and this means going live once I am pretty sure it works, I would like to know how it is built beforehand. I am letting the EA work for a few days now, with nothing but winners and with a very low drawdown (usd/jpy; increment = 20, initial lot size 0.02 in an old account with around USD 3000) and making a consistent average of 100 dollars per day. However, I want to know what the worst-case scenario would be, as anyone else here, I guess.
I already saw that the EA only places opposite stop orders (3 times the initial lot size, one order in each level) once each first level order is triggered. I would like to know if that is the only rule, or if there are other triggers.

Thanks.
  • #256
  • Nov 12, 2008 1:15pm Nov 12, 2008 1:15pm
Quoting Middleastern
Hi Flash,
I already saw that the EA only places opposite stop orders (3 times the initial lot size, one order in each level) once each first level order is triggered. I would like to know if that is the only rule, or if there are other triggers.
I understand now what you mean. I will have a closer look.
Thanks.
  • #257
  • Nov 12, 2008 1:19pm Nov 12, 2008 1:19pm
Quoting Middleastern
JW, are you using the same settings on all the pairs? If so, the increment should be adjusted according to each pair´s volatility.
By the way, are you still using the original Post#1 size progression (1-2-3)?

Yes, unfortunately I am using the same setting on each pair. looking back through the post I have seen no comments that bring up the idea of optimizing the EA for each pairs volatility, but it is definitely something to look into.

As of right now my tests are more of a "Well these setting kind of work on this pair, work rather well on this pair, and definitely don't work on this pair" --[this is with the auto inc std EA, which im pretty sure has fallen dead in this thread as I'm the only one testing it to my knowledge]

Also bear in mind that since I don't trade for a living I'm not constantly looking at the trades the EA makes, I'm letting the EA handle everything with no emotional interference.
  • #258
  • Nov 12, 2008 1:27pm Nov 12, 2008 1:27pm
Quoting Jwentro
Yes, unfortunately I am using the same setting on each pair. looking back through the post I have seen no comments that bring up the idea of optimizing the EA for each pairs volatility, but it is definitely something to look into.

As of right now my tests are more of a "Well these setting kind of work on this pair, work rather well on this pair, and definitely don't work on this pair" --[this is with the auto inc std EA, which im pretty sure has fallen dead in this thread as I'm the only one testing it to my knowledge]

Also bear in mind that...
I tried that EA but if I´m not mistaken it doesn´t let you play with the lot sizes, so I left it.
I am using the mGrid ver 7 only in one pair to follow how it trades (and not get lost in a sea of trades), but I also cannot be 24/7 in front of the screen. It looks like it is doing good, but it will need a couple of months-worth testing to make sure of it.
  • #259
  • Nov 12, 2008 1:57pm Nov 12, 2008 1:57pm
Quoting Middleastern
I tried that EA but if I´m not mistaken it doesn´t let you play with the lot sizes, so I left it.
I am using the mGrid ver 7 only in one pair to follow how it trades (and not get lost in a sea of trades), but I also cannot be 24/7 in front of the screen. It looks like it is doing good, but it will need a couple of months-worth testing to make sure of it.

This EA will not lose money as long as you have sufficient margin, but can also wipe out your account in one trade. I also cannot be in front of the screen all the time and that is the reason I asked FF if it is possible to limit or choose the number of cycles even if we have to take losses once in a while.
Lets wait for his response.
  • #260
  • Edited 2:28pm Nov 12, 2008 2:18pm | Edited 2:28pm
Quoting desi
Hi FF,
Are you still following this thread?
I have a request for you. For EA mGrid ver7 or BBmGrid, can you make changes to limit the cycle to say 8-10 instead of infinite loop? Now I understand that by doing this there are chances that one may end up with loss i.e., if buy orders are more than sell orders and the price goes down and hit TP and SL and vice versa.
But this way we can prevent the account from blowing out when we are are not there to babysit the account. Later we can manually intervent to reduce losses in the event of price going...
Desi....use first ea that has a variable max lots......(number of totaly executed lots)
after the max lots are reached, ea will not execute any more trades!

...end regarding the input of the range for the ea,... this helps alot!


Regards
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