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  • #221
  • Nov 7, 2008 1:31pm Nov 7, 2008 1:31pm
There are many EAīs posted in the thread. Tell us which one are you using.

Quoting zhkzhk
Hi Traders

I have read the thread, but I cant figure out how to change the input for stop loss and take profit, can someone please help

Zee
  • #222
  • Nov 7, 2008 1:43pm Nov 7, 2008 1:43pm
Quoting Middleastern
There are many EAīs posted in the thread. Tell us which one are you using.
I am using the mGRID EA

Thanks
ZHK
  • #223
  • Nov 7, 2008 4:46pm Nov 7, 2008 4:46pm
Quoting zhkzhk
I am using the mGRID EA

Thanks
I think that one has a built-in, fixed SL, but I didnīt use it actually. Maybe someone else can help you out with this one.
  • #224
  • Nov 7, 2008 10:32pm Nov 7, 2008 10:32pm
Keeping up with the jinx i received on Wednesday I did not have internet access all day, yet obviously my trades were still pending, and they went through without any help from the EA.

This result should be discarded, but I decided to post it in the event anyone ever decided to live trade this EA and not watch it very closely.

Next week I will restart these tests with a new $500 demo acct.
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  • #225
  • Nov 8, 2008 2:52am Nov 8, 2008 2:52am
Jwentro, thanks for the constant updates......hope you are not angry
for not coding your request for new grid, but the reality is that the partial
ea you sended to me is simply not good for this type of ordering!
I coded so many versions of this grid and came to conclusion that
death trade WILL HAPPEN no matter what......all we can do is play
smart, and use one simple MM,....withdraw our money regulary from
the accounts! Im not using this on reall account now, but it will happen
in the near future when I colect some funds. Im playing with some new
coding now, and if turns to be better than the rest, Il post it here for sure!
Any fresh ideas are welcome.....
ps. your usage of multiple currencyes are a good tactics, but I really think
that you need to use 0.01 lots, or lower the number of currencyes.

Respect
forexflash
  • #226
  • Edited 7:46am Nov 8, 2008 7:07am | Edited 7:46am
Hello ForexFlash,
As I see it, the death trade occurs because the way new pending orders are sized is wrong, as I detailed in a previous post. I understand the 1-2-3 sizing was changed to a 3-3-3, but this does not solve the issue. It still doesnīt assure that 100% winning rate with an infinite account. Your idea is ultimately a Martingale-like approach, so no matter how you tweak the MM, as a block develops it will demand a higher risk to cover the previous bets.

The main source of risk here is a market that doesnīt breaks the channel defined by the high and low TP/SL. In a 3-level system, this channel width is eight times the grid increment. In a 2-level system, six times. In a 1-level system, 4 times. Since our aim is for price to reach either channelīs edge, the lower the number of levels, the higher the chance for this to happen.

So, whatīs my point here...
What about a system like this:

Enter a market order (letīs say a buy) at price P (current price), size=0.01, TP=P+I, SL = P-2I. At the same time, place a sell-stop at P-I, size=0.03, TP=P-2I, SL=P+I. The grid looks like this:

TP/SL --------------------------- P+I
First market order -------------- P
Sell-stop ------------------------ P-I
SL/TP --------------------------- P-2I

If the sell-stop is triggered, place a buy stop at P, size=0.06, same SL/TP than the previous buy order.
If this buy-stop is triggered, place a new sell-stop at P-I, size=0.12, same SL/TP than the previous sell order,
and so on...

Here, the final profit will be defined by the initial size (0.01) and the grid increment (I), but the channelīs width will be reduced to just 3 times the increment, thus reducing the risk. Risk may be further reduced with filters like BBīs, trading times, RSI or whatever indicator applies.
As for margin requirements, a broker with special hedging margin requirements (Alpari, for instance) would come especially handy.

Any thoughts?


Quoting FOREXflash
Jwentro, thanks for the constant updates......hope you are not angry
for not coding your request for new grid, but the reality is that the partial
ea you sended to me is simply not good for this type of ordering!
I coded so many versions of this grid and came to conclusion that
death trade WILL HAPPEN no matter what......all we can do is play
smart, and use one simple MM,....withdraw our money regulary from
the accounts! Im not using this on reall account now, but it will happen
in the near future when I colect some funds. Im playing with some new
coding now, and if turns to be better than the rest, Il post it here for sure!
Any fresh ideas are welcome.....
ps. your usage of multiple currencyes...
  • #227
  • Nov 8, 2008 11:46am Nov 8, 2008 11:46am
Quoting Middleastern
Hello ForexFlash,
As I see it, the death trade occurs because the way new pending orders are sized is wrong, as I detailed in a previous post. I understand the 1-2-3 sizing was changed to a 3-3-3, but this does not solve the issue. It still doesnīt assure that 100% winning rate with an infinite account. Your idea is ultimately a Martingale-like approach, so no matter how you tweak the MM, as a block develops it will demand a higher risk to cover the previous bets.

The main source of risk here is a market that doesnīt breaks the channel defined by the high and low TP/SL. In a 3-level system, this channel width is eight times the grid increment. In a 2-level system, six times. In a 1-level system,...
i used only one level for a couple days manually and it will eat you up unless you go .01 lots and have a very large acct balance and it still may get you when it whipsaws
  • #228
  • Nov 8, 2008 12:11pm Nov 8, 2008 12:11pm
I already said that using 1 level eats margin the fastest way at least 2 times
in this thread!
forexflash
  • #229
  • Nov 8, 2008 2:09pm Nov 8, 2008 2:09pm
Quoting FOREXflash
I already said that using 1 level eats margin the fastest way at least 2 times
in this thread!
i am a new EA programers.
i have Ea
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  • #230
  • Nov 8, 2008 3:36pm Nov 8, 2008 3:36pm
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting drbastem
i am a new EA programers.
i have Ea
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CCY? TF? Initial capital?
  • #231
  • Edited Nov 9, 2008 8:01am Nov 8, 2008 4:17pm | Edited Nov 9, 2008 8:01am
Iīll check the number of levels issue... Please someone tell me what are the lot sizes you are using after the modifications made since Post #1. I still see the problem with the math I mentioned earlier.

Quoting rbrtsha
i used only one level for a couple days manually and it will eat you up unless you go .01 lots and have a very large acct balance and it still may get you when it whipsaws
  • #232
  • Nov 8, 2008 4:20pm Nov 8, 2008 4:20pm
Quoting onu
CCY? TF? Initial capital?
CCY?
Time Period 1H only EURUSD
  • #233
  • Nov 8, 2008 4:29pm Nov 8, 2008 4:29pm
I looked fast through code......I see it uses alexcud indicator....???
Is it hardcoded into ea?
It is hard to go through code partialy writen in foreign language.
Could you please explain a bit more this ea!??

Thanks for the revision bro
forexflash
  • #234
  • Nov 8, 2008 4:33pm Nov 8, 2008 4:33pm
Quoting Middleastern
Iīll check the number of levels issue... Please someone tell me what are the lot sizes you are using after the modifications made since Post #1. I still see the problem with the math I mentioned earlier?
I know that ordering is good.....if you have enough margin in account
for multipliying levels until price breaks the TP/SL you WILL come out in profit! So logics is OK.

edit: I really didnt looked good at your idea/problem, but I will do that when I catch some extra time, ok.
forexflash
  • #235
  • Nov 8, 2008 4:33pm Nov 8, 2008 4:33pm
Quoting FOREXflash
I looked fast through code......I see it uses alexcud indicator....???
Is it hardcoded into ea?
It is hard to go through code partialy writen in foreign language.
Could you please explain a bit more this ea!??

Thanks for the revision bro
yes . i am using Alexcut indicators v2 in my EA.
i have a litle english.
firs deposit 10.000 lots 1.0 sysmbol eurusd only 1h
today balance is 57000 USD.
  • #236
  • Nov 8, 2008 4:40pm Nov 8, 2008 4:40pm
Quoting drbastem
yes . i am using Alexcut indicators v2 in my EA.
i have a litle english.
firs deposit 10.000 lots 1.0 sysmbol eurusd only 1h
today balance is 57000 USD.
Ok....Ill go to bed now, and tomorow Ill look through code, and test this baby
to see how it performs....thanks again bro.
Respect
forexflash
  • #237
  • Nov 9, 2008 7:19pm Nov 9, 2008 7:19pm
can we get the correct alexcut indicator posted for the EA mentioned above??
  • #238
  • Nov 9, 2008 8:40pm Nov 9, 2008 8:40pm
i have been live testing the original version with gbp/jpy. i have been using 3 levels with 55 pip levels. i doubled my account, but then hit the deadly whipsaw. i had a micro account with 400:1 leverage and .01 lots. what i want to do now is test it with a stop loss function of my floating balance in dollars. can someone code it, or let me know if the version exists within the other eas that are listed?
  • #239
  • Nov 10, 2008 9:22am Nov 10, 2008 9:22am
The Auto Inc STD Test has a Open_Loss_To_CloseTrades feature built into it. that might be what youre looking for.
  • #240
  • Nov 10, 2008 11:28pm Nov 10, 2008 11:28pm
Attached is the update. Please let it be known that this is my second acct of the week. the first acct was completely wiped out overnight. which leads me to believe that this EA should not be traded sundays.

I have also started using .01 lots and I'm trading across 9 pairs. All the pairs flow through EURUSD.

GBPUSD-> EURUSD ->EURGBP
EURCHF-> EURUSD ->USDCHF
USDCAD-> EURUSD ->EURCAD
USDJPY-> EURUSD ->EURJPY
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