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  • #21
  • Oct 7, 2008 3:17pm Oct 7, 2008 3:17pm
Everything is possible, djmanu I wish programmers never run this world.


Quoting djmanu
I think there's a bug in the anchor change indicator, the daily top anchor became red, the bottom anchor became green and I had a Buy alert, 1hour earlier the top became green and bottom red and I had a SELL signal ...
Would it be possible that the signals are reversed ?
  • #22
  • Oct 7, 2008 3:19pm Oct 7, 2008 3:19pm
Ok sorry for pointing out the obvious... I am crap it this at times, as you can tell.

I was wondering if we can improve this... can we log the changes on like an hourly basis, so we know what the changes are occuring and this will help us in movement of the baskets so we can see where price is moving, if price buy + sell = -500 - we know we are in a strong sell trend... if an hour later we are -450 and 1 after that we are -350, etc... and with swaps occurring in our basket we can see that there is a change in price - we can use this for scalping.

Regards,
Vip
  • #23
  • Oct 7, 2008 3:26pm Oct 7, 2008 3:26pm
smjones, this is free world (until somebody sells your code on ebay)!
Post it here and be ready to fix bugs. Get some sleep first.
One request though - if changed the code, please explain in details what you changed. Obviosely the name must be changed too (either version number, or whatever).

Thanks a lot!

P.S.
If everything's allright we'll make it an official version since your change seem significant to me.


Quoting smjones
Orest, I will add the changes We spoke of that I made to your 1.11 to 1.12 also and post it in a bit. This in my opinion is why 1.11 is slightly different than T101s profitcalc. I have been running it for 24 hours and it is the same now. I need some sleep right now though. Do you want me to send it to you first, or just post it?
  • #24
  • Edited 3:37pm Oct 7, 2008 3:27pm | Edited 3:37pm
Quoting Orest
smjones, this is free world (until somebody sells your code on ebay)!
Post it here and be ready to fix bugs. Get some sleep first.
One request though - if changed the code, please explain in details what you changed. Obviosely the name must be changed too (either version number, or whatever).

Thanks a lot!
I always document both in the code and in a readme.
BTW the only reason I would send it to you first, is because it is your program and would be only right for you to approve or reject the changes. However, I will just change it and post it according to your above guidelines. thanks again for your hard work.
  • #25
  • Oct 7, 2008 3:37pm Oct 7, 2008 3:37pm
djmanu,
MQL has it's limitations one of them - you can't combine static indicator like v.1.12 and moving one like Signals.

Quoting djmanu
Yes, I think we could use the anchor change indicator to identify this.
When we open it, we could see if there were a lot of differents signals on the Daily & 4h in the last few hours that day to decide not to trade anchors.
The question is now how to identify this exactly ...
I think it could also be nice to display the strong trend changes of the differents TF >= 4h on that graph to make the correlation between anchors changes and trend changes.
Just a few ideas ...
Edit:
Why not have 1 indicator/timeframe showing:
- Anchors changes
- Trend changes
- Buy profits (graph)
- Sells profits (graph)
- Difference without swap (graph)
I think it could become our best friend to backtest the method!
  • #26
  • Oct 7, 2008 6:29pm Oct 7, 2008 6:29pm
Please correct me if I am wrong, but this ea goes in the indicators\scripts\files folders? Yes?

How do I do this?

Sorry, Orest. Couldn't resist.

I can't even begin to say how much your T101 indi has meant to me since you first published it.

I am absolutely delighted to find you willing to carry on developing it.

Cheers

  • #27
  • Oct 7, 2008 6:47pm Oct 7, 2008 6:47pm
Here is a low resolution version of the latest Orest indicator. I moved the trend description to the top, in case I want to look at other things too. Colors have been changed for added brightness and added noticeablity. I might move the total nearer the top too.

I'm no coding genius, although it seems to work. Use at your own risk!

Hey Orest? You know the white numbers that tell you which slot a pair jumped from - if, instead of the slot number, it just said how many slots it was, I'd prefer it. It would save me mentally calcuating it every time.
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  • #28
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:07pm Oct 7, 2008 7:07pm
I think it's a great idea, icicle (number slots instead of slot#). Will be done.
Listen, that spaghetti above it - is it really useful? If it is could you explain when you have a chance?


Quoting icicle
Here is a low resolution version of the latest Orest indicator. I moved the trend description to the top, in case I want to look at other things too. Colors have been changed for added brightness and added noticeablity. I might move the total nearer the top too.

I'm no coding genius, although it seems to work. Use at your own risk!

Hey Orest? You know the white numbers that tell you which slot a pair jumped from - if, instead of the slot number, it just said how many slots it was, I'd prefer it. It would save me mentally calcuating it every time.
  • #29
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:08pm Oct 7, 2008 7:08pm
They are indicators, not EA's - thus, they go in experts/indicators folder.

Quoting SteveHopwood
Please correct me if I am wrong, but this ea goes in the indicators\scripts\files folders? Yes?

How do I do this?

Sorry, Orest. Couldn't resist.

I can't even begin to say how much your T101 indi has meant to me since you first published it.

I am absolutely delighted to find you willing to carry on developing it.

Cheers

  • #30
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:17pm Oct 7, 2008 7:17pm
Quoting Orest
I think it's a great idea, icicle (number slots instead of slot#). Will be done.
Listen, that spaghetti above it - is it really useful? If it is could you explain when you have a chance?
I don't know how icicle uses it, but there are points in the spaghetti where you can see clearly enough that there are regions of buy (green) and regions of sell (red). Then they jumble together, that's a potential trend reversal.

It's a very crude job I admit, but I can see--with limited resolution--what the market did in the past on a bar-by-bar basis.

On a side note, I'm thinking instead of trying to plot all 14 lines at once, develop an indicator which ranks the pairs according to profit, then plots the change in rankings of 1 pair across a chart. That's the part I'm trying to look into. A line-based version similar to this: http://www.4xlounge.com/charts2/baro.html except there are only 14 possible values on the y axis.

My goal is to try and find a more mechanical pattern for phase 1 of the trade basket where the pairs "jump the border". (Between positions 7 and 8)
  • #31
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:21pm Oct 7, 2008 7:21pm
Hehe. Thanks eagle, but I was teasing.

Quoting eagle4x
They are indicators, not EA's - thus, they go in experts/indicators folder.
  • #32
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:21pm Oct 7, 2008 7:21pm
hi orest
the new indi 1.12 has only ibfx pairs , how can we get the original pairs
thanks
  • #33
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:40pm Oct 7, 2008 7:40pm
imad,
you're expected to know that indicator has properties and you can enter there any pair you want.

Quoting imad
hi orest
the new indi 1.12 has only ibfx pairs , how can we get the original pairs
thanks
  • #34
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:41pm Oct 7, 2008 7:41pm
RR,
sounds interesting so far. I assume that indicator was in the "old thread", may I have a name to download from there and take a look?

Thanks


Quoting Ronald Raygun
I don't know how icicle uses it, but there are points in the spaghetti where you can see clearly enough that there are regions of buy (green) and regions of sell (red). Then they jumble together, that's a potential trend reversal.

It's a very crude job I admit, but I can see--with limited resolution--what the market did in the past on a bar-by-bar basis.

On a side note, I'm thinking instead of trying to plot all 14 lines at once, develop an indicator which ranks the pairs according to profit, then plots the change in rankings of 1 pair across a chart. That's the part I'm trying to look into. A line-based version similar to this: http://www.4xlounge.com/charts2/baro.html except there are only 14 possible values on the y axis.

My goal is to try and find a more mechanical pattern for phase 1 of the trade basket where the pairs "jump the border". (Between positions 7 and 8)
  • #35
  • Oct 7, 2008 7:57pm Oct 7, 2008 7:57pm
hmmmm.... almost a complete swap.......h
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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #36
  • Oct 7, 2008 8:08pm Oct 7, 2008 8:08pm
Quoting Orest
RR,
sounds interesting so far. I assume that indicator was in the "old thread", may I have a name to download from there and take a look?

Thanks
Hi Orest ... great job on the new indicator ... Ronalds is on the old thread called "Symbol Profit"
  • #37
  • Edited 8:54pm Oct 7, 2008 8:09pm | Edited 8:54pm
Quoting Orest
I think it's a great idea, icicle (number slots instead of slot#). Will be done.
Listen, that spaghetti above it - is it really useful? If it is could you explain when you have a chance?
Well I have it up there because I think it is nice to look at. The prettier something is, the longer I will look. Ronald Raygun coded it.

I think it will be useful. Here it is with fixed scales and every pair set to 'long', and another with longs set to 'long' and shorts to 'short'.

Sometimes I make each pair a particular color. I really am quite obsessed with this indicator. Its hypnotic.
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  • #38
  • Oct 7, 2008 9:14pm Oct 7, 2008 9:14pm
Here's the post: http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1998
  • #39
  • Oct 7, 2008 11:16pm Oct 7, 2008 11:16pm
It seems like we need 2 indicators with 7 buffers in each one for buys pairs and sell pairs (I believe MQL doesn't support 14 buffers for data in one indicator). Settings 14 indicators for each pair could be a pain. Pairs with bigger spread (normally more volatile) could be darker, but same color. Pair with biggest spread would be darkest and with smallest spread's one would be lightest.

Thanks!

Quoting Ronald Raygun
Here's the post: http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1998
  • #40
  • Oct 7, 2008 11:57pm Oct 7, 2008 11:57pm
Quoting Orest
It seems like we need 2 indicators with 7 buffers in each one for buys pairs and sell pairs (I believe MQL doesn't support 14 buffers for data in one indicator). Settings 14 indicators for each pair could be a pain. Pairs with bigger spread (normally more volatile) could be darker, but same color. Pair with biggest spread would be darkest and with smallest spread's one would be lightest.

Thanks!
It was a relatively simple solution from my perspective: code one indicator which only draws one line =D. That screenshot on my post has 14 indicators in the same window =D

The part I'm most interested in is the ranking system. I'm not 100% sure how you did it, and I'm still looking through the code.

I figure if each indicator can simply give a value from 1-14 which corresponds to the ranking, we won't have to worry too much about all that "in-between" space, and more definitively determine which bar moved what pair where. I figure it's better than my current spaghetti setup.

At least, that's my thinking. I'm crap at coding indicators, so if you don't understand what I'm talking about I'll gladly explain it in further detail through Skype.
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