New Mouteki Method...

Quoting zznbrm

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After reviewing the videos, it does appear that the trades for USDCHF, EURUSD, and GBPUSD were entered on the 18th, but the large breakout candles (where he said entry was) are on the 19th.

Am I missing something or is this a serious problem?

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Quoting ozziedave

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Hi zzbrm,

I stated this before. Chances are the tardes Mouteki showed us were in his demo account, not many tarders show their live account. The fact is that both trades were up 100's of pips at the time they were shown on the video. So ask yourself, was Mouteki's timing on both trades just a "pure lucky" guess or does he have some methodology/system that got him in when it did? If both of those entries were just lucky guesses then the saying "it's better to be lucky sometimes than good" is doublely true in Mouteki's case.

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Quoting smjones

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Well the answer to this question is. One can open a trade in both directions and just close out the un-profitable one before making a video. I have no idea if this was done, but it would be easy to do. No luck involved at all. It is a sure thing that one side will be profitable.

BTW, That background looks like newjersey countryside. His profile say Greece. It would be interesting if Admin could track down the origin of the IP he used. I think this would be useful for those who want to sign up. Due diligence. I remember I said let him have his thread and give him a chance, it would be easy enough to deal with it if he is not on the up and up. It would appear the later is the case.

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Quoting smjones

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Well the answer to this question is. One can open a trade in both directions and just close out the un-profitable one before making a video. I have no idea if this was done, but it would be easy to do. No luck involved at all. It is a sure thing that one side will be profitable.

BTW, That background looks like newjersey countryside. His profile say Greece. It would be interesting if Admin could track down the origin of the IP he used. I think this would be useful for those who want to sign up. Due diligence. I remember I said let him have his thread and give him a chance, it would be easy enough to deal with it if he is not on the up and up. It would appear the later is the case.

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Quoting Twee

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Hey bud! You're not going to believe this one: Mouteki is in Ohio. I kid you not.

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Quoting Twee

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Hey bud! You're not going to believe this one: Mouteki is in Ohio. I kid you not.

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Quoting smjones

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Well the answer to this question is. One can open a trade in both directions and just close out the un-profitable one before making a video. I have no idea if this was done, but it would be easy to do. No luck involved at all. It is a sure thing that one side will be profitable.

BTW, That background looks like newjersey countryside. His profile say Greece. It would be interesting if Admin could track down the origin of the IP he used. I think this would be useful for those who want to sign up. Due diligence. I remember I said let him have his thread and give him a chance, it would be easy enough to deal with it if he is not on the up and up. It would appear the later is the case.

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Quoting speedtrader8

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Dear Mouteki, I recommend that you REWARD those early subscribers (like me!) who never once doubted you, with some goodies, l can't wait to hear from you!

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Quoting iiivb

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Now u r the one expecting Mouteki to feed you...

and btw... u won't read Mouteki @ FF anymore since he was banned... just for ur records...

and...

pls... did u realize who smjones is?

because u r only embarrasing urself talking that way to him.

iiivb

p.s.

u r member since aug. 11, 2008
smjones since ... march 10, 2006

u have ONLY 49 posts @ FF
smjones has ONLY +3000 posts @ FF

he is a 1KT trader vouched by... ummm countless traders...
u have none

he is on TONS of users' buddy list...
u have none

i guess u got my point...

pls show some respect

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Quoting speedtrader8

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So u are saying that members with 5000 posts are royalty and can say what they think and members with 50 posts should just shut up?

I did not disrespect him at any point. I stated my view of this situation. And I don't look at a member's number of posts before thinking what I should say.

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Quoting speedtrader8

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excuse me, it seems like you DEMAND that Mouteki prove this and prove that so that you will join.

excuse me, it is ultimately YOUR decision. IF u do not believe in him, den don' subscribe!! its as simple as that!

people keep trying to slam him, and when he starts showing his genuinity, the people who slam him find MORE reasons to slam him... omg...

are these ppl trading forex??????? at least 1 mini lot?????? or are they trading micro lots and get excited with a 10 dollar profit?????

so much fuss is made over 144 or 233 dollars??? people here EXPECT mouteki to feed them???

the only thing that Mouteki has done wrong, is that he stated he would not want to charge, but ended up charging. I think that is the only mistake that he has made.

So other than that, Mouteki has introduced a wonderful method to us.


when he talked about the fib zones, EVERYONE was saying wow wow wow, thanks mouteki! this is a new method!!!! this is powerful!!!!

then when he starts charging, everyone starts to say nah, its just fibs, nothing great, fibs work, we knew it all along, other ppl started this long ago blah blah blah...

Isn't that so funny how humans work???? lol.

Dear Mouteki, I recommend that you REWARD those early subscribers (like me!) who never once doubted you, with some goodies, l can't wait to hear from you!

Cheers everyone.

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Quoting billflet

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They're always from Ohio.

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Quoting smjones

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Just a quick note,

To whom ever suspended speedtrader8, he was just feeling angry and upset. I don't think it was necessary to suspend him on my account. People have a right to think whatever they want of me. It does not change how I relate to myself. He will probably settle down in a bit and realize how silly this whole thing was... Take care, back to the numbers... LOL

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Quoting smjones

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Just a quick note,

To whom ever suspended speedtrader8, he was just feeling angry and upset. I don't think it was necessary to suspend him on my account. People have a right to think whatever they want of me. It does not change how I relate to myself. He will probably settle down in a bit and realize how silly this whole thing was... Take care, back to the numbers... LOL

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Quoting ozziedave

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Wow..this debate is still going on even in the recycle bin. I can understand why people are upset with Mouteki. On one hand he did say that he had no commercial aspirations when he started this thread. On the other hand, he did deliver a complete system to everyone on the thread it's just not the exact system that he has fine tuned for his own personal trading. If you look at alot of Effilangs threads, you'll notice he does this exact same thing..starts a thread stays with it for a few weeks, gets people to send him privite IMs about his trading and then he offers to mentor you or to sell you a system. He never states his commercial intent up front, it's only after he gets a following on the thread that you get the gist of what's going on.

All that aside, I do find it very interesting that every one was hanging on every word that Mouteki said when he was offering his advise and trading system for free. Now, all of the sudden when the almighty dollar comes into play, every one is saying he doesn't have a clue how to trade or his method is so simple that even a moron with a little knowlage of fibs can do it. If this is the case why were so many of you sooo interested in the first place...was it because it was offered for free or becasue you saw some value in the information he was offering??? Good question to ask yourself...

Maybe Mouteki's Truth Club is a scam, but what if it's not??? I can speak for myself when I say what I have learned here has helped me to be a better trader. So based on that I am willing to risk $89 bucks...serious guys...it's a price of dinner out for one night. I guess I can miss having dinner out once in the next month to find out what Mouteki has to offer.

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Quoting ozziedave

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Hi zzbrm,

I stated this before. Chances are the tardes Mouteki showed us were in his demo account, not many tarders show their live account. The fact is that both trades were up 100's of pips at the time they were shown on the video. So ask yourself, was Mouteki's timing on both trades just a "pure lucky" guess or does he have some methodology/system that got him in when it did? If both of those entries were just lucky guesses then the saying "it's better to be lucky sometimes than good" is doublely true in Mouteki's case.

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