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  • #261
  • Edited 10:32am Sep 24, 2008 10:20am | Edited 10:32am
Quoting D liberators
Thanks. yes i use winrar. thanks for ur help
I forgot which forum I was on yesterday. I can't upload Winrar files to this forum. I will send you a link by PM to a download site that will have the rar file. You should have received the PM. Contact me if there is a problem.
  • #262
  • Sep 26, 2008 12:17am Sep 26, 2008 12:17am
D liberators,
Now that you have the 3 PDF files here are the 4 MT4 files.

Note to anyone else reading this; These are the same files as in the first post. D liberators can't open the zip file so I will post them here.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 vHandsTrade.mq4   72 KB | 1,074 downloads
File Type: mq4 vHistory.mq4   < 1 KB | 965 downloads
File Type: mq4 VisualTestingTools.mq4   26 KB | 1,116 downloads
File Type: mq4 vTerminal.mq4   < 1 KB | 1,013 downloads
  • #263
  • Sep 26, 2008 2:47pm Sep 26, 2008 2:47pm
Thanks for all your work on this guys.
Now im trying to run it off a 5min chart.
So i just select the 5min chart in the Tester window and try open it.

Then metatrader goes off and creates a massive .fxt file in C:\Program Files\Copy of FxPro MetaTrader\tester\history
Any idea's what this is about? Ive only 2 gigs free hard drive space and it fills that before it does anything.

Then once full it just stalls.

Surely this is some kind of error? Any idea's why it dumps out another huge .fxt file?
Thanks
  • #264
  • Sep 26, 2008 9:14pm Sep 26, 2008 9:14pm
The size of the fxt file for eurusd (1024000 1-minute bars) for me is 146 megs. I sometimes have a problem with large log files, but I think that's due to errors caused by incompatible indicators. I don't know why you are getting a 2-gig file. I don't know if it matters, but I got my data from forextester.com. It imported without a hitch.

But you really shouldn't let a drive get so full in the first place. Windows expects you to leave 12.5% free space on a drive.
  • #265
  • Sep 26, 2008 10:08pm Sep 26, 2008 10:08pm
I think FxPro has history that uses tenths of a pip. If it does it may be the extra digit causing problems. Have you tried Vhands on a traditional platform.
  • #266
  • Sep 27, 2008 10:53am Sep 27, 2008 10:53am
Thanks guys,
It could be the tenth of a pip thing. I was with NorthFinance and now FxPro (did they acquire them or something?)

I'll try another broker and see...
  • #267
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:03am Sep 29, 2008 2:03am
Quoting nvwine
D liberators,
Now that you have the 3 PDF files here are the 4 MT4 files.

Note to anyone else reading this; These are the same files as in the first post. D liberators can't open the zip file so I will post them here.
Thank you so much nvwine. i've been able to download the files and they are running on my system now.

I'm still trying to master the use of the Vhand though and see how it is different from the original settings of the strategy tester on my platform (AlpariUk).

What i'm looking for is a tester i'll be able to configure to my own settings (strategy) and it will run and place the trades for me without my having to sit in front of the system and place trades manually.

Thanks for your help.
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  • #268
  • Sep 29, 2008 10:28pm Sep 29, 2008 10:28pm
D liberators, vHands is an EA itself (Expert Advisor, code that can auto-trade according to the parameters you set for it), so it won't let you do what you want (run another EA inside it). You either need to code your own EA (perhaps you could find a similar one and just mod it a bit to suit your strategy), or have someone write one for you. Then you run your EA inside Strategy Tester to do backtesting on it.
  • #269
  • Oct 11, 2008 10:15am Oct 11, 2008 10:15am
i was just wondering if its possible to run this with more then one chart ie having the data from 2 or 3 currency pairs displayed at the same time??
  • #270
  • Oct 12, 2008 2:55am Oct 12, 2008 2:55am
Quoting Firefly
i was just wondering if its possible to run this with more then one chart ie having the data from 2 or 3 currency pairs displayed at the same time??
No
  • #271
  • Nov 20, 2008 8:30am Nov 20, 2008 8:30am
Hi All:

Thanks to Bluruby et al for this great info! This was exactly the thing I needed!

However the system I'm demo-ing relies on using a couple of timeframes so I've been trying to get Rangebound's instructions for this working and have run into a couple problems.

Hoping Rangebound checks back in now & again and can give some help - or anyone else that can help would be great.

I've gotten to the following section in Rangebound's instructions:

Quote

** Please continue with theses steps to continue with the new Vhands setup.

•

Close all Chart windows

[left]• [font=ArialMT][size=2][font=ArialMT][size=2]Since we dont really want to add indicators to the main Vhands chart window...

Problems encountered as follows:

1. Everything goes fine until the I open the Offline M2 chart. I note that when I go to open the file it only has 1000 bars whereas the original file (the M1 file) has something like 3 million!

2. The other thing (not sure if it's related) is that when the M2 chart opens, it is not the same format as the one I add the Period Converter to. It opens as a bar graph not candlesticks and it won't let me change it to candlesticks.

3. The Offline M2 chart doesn't run with the original chart like it's supposed to - or at all for that matter.

Any help is appreciated!
  • #272
  • Nov 23, 2008 2:21am Nov 23, 2008 2:21am
[quote=relaxiom;2365067]Hi All:

Hello,
Have a problem in using Vhand stimulator for manual testing. after compiliing everything was fine.

But it does not shows the Vterminal detail and Vhistory. It was blank after start button is pressed.

Please explain and reply to rectify the problem
  • #273
  • Nov 23, 2008 2:23am Nov 23, 2008 2:23am
Hello,
Have a problem in using Vhand stimulator for manual testing. after compiliing everything was fine.

But it does not shows the Vterminal detail and Vhistory. It was blank after start button is pressed.

Also
2008.11.23 02:21:29 2008.07.21 23:59 vHandsTrade EURUSDm,M5: ObjectSetText( "Comment_9", "", 8"Arial", 0 ) - Error #4202

The above error showing in the Journal

Please reply.




Please explain and reply to rectify the problem[/quote]
  • #274
  • Nov 28, 2008 10:34pm Nov 28, 2008 10:34pm
I'm having a problem. I press pause. Drag a buy stop and buy stop SL onto the points I want. Hit go and the two lines disappear off the chart and re-appear in the terminal window (where I got them from)

Any ideas? I've already re-installed the simulator. but it's all still there.

Thanks
Stuart
  • #275
  • Nov 29, 2008 8:14am Nov 29, 2008 8:14am
I connected MTF stochastic to vhand with different TF settings but it does not work (latest MTF version of Vhand) . DO you know maybe if it is possible to get it working ??

Krzysztof
  • #276
  • Dec 1, 2008 12:35am Dec 1, 2008 12:35am
Quoting krishnan99
Hello,
Have a problem in using Vhand stimulator for manual testing. after compiliing everything was fine.

But it does not shows the Vterminal detail and Vhistory. It was blank after start button is pressed.

Also
2008.11.23 02:21:29 2008.07.21 23:59 vHandsTrade EURUSDm,M5: ObjectSetText( "Comment_9", "", 8"Arial", 0 ) - Error #4202

The above error showing in the Journal

Please reply.




Please explain and reply to rectify the problem

Krishnan,

I had this problem recently (No detail windows and Error #4202) but eventually I noticed that the template name with detail windows did not match the EA name (vHandsTrade) which I'd renamed. The error is triggered from the VisualTradingTools.mq4 include file; it can't find the detail windows. Create a template name to match the EA name.

Refer to Testing Visualization.pdf: 3. "For visualization purposes, the template named tester.tpl or <expert_name>.tpl will be used. It is this name that must be used to save the template".

Hope this helps. Cheers
  • #277
  • Jan 31, 2009 11:19am Jan 31, 2009 11:19am
  •  FxChi
  • | Joined Dec 2007 | Status: Cash Rules Everything Around Me | 749 Posts
I'm having problem on step 2. I added the MTFvHandstrade.mq4 to experts folder. Period_Converter_Opt.mq4 to experts/indicators folder. The issue occurs once I open Strategy with settings from Step 1, change Global Variables to 1, I press the "skip to" button once to the date I want, and then click the play/pause button. It takes a very long time to skip to the date I want. I started it at 12:30 PM, and it's now 2:15 PM, and it's only done maybe 10% of the data. My computer is very fast - Quad Core (not sure of all the other specs TBH, but computer is only a couple months old), and Alpari only has 2 charts open (vhands and 1 other chart). Has this happened to anyone else? Any recommendations I can do to speed this up, because obviously I've done something wrong here. Any assistance is very much appreciated.

EDIT: My mistake. I scrolled to the start date and found it had dl'd the data to that point, but the progress bar at the bottom hadn't finished dl'ing. Sorry about that.
"Wishful thinking dies hard." Igor T.
  • #278
  • Feb 14, 2009 7:42am Feb 14, 2009 7:42am
Ive been using v-hands to test some trading idea's, the problem is that I cant seem to replicate my v-hands success in my demo account. I was wondering If the way that the bars are created is authentic or not, maby the way the bar is constructed takes where the bar closes in to consideration, therefore using the future close info to make the present moves, this would explain my success while testing.

Any thoughts on this?

ps. I am guessing the tester uses 1min bars open and close data, Im using 5min bars to test from.... Anyone using higher period bars may not find a problem.
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  • #279
  • Feb 18, 2009 4:45pm Feb 18, 2009 4:45pm
I have found the vhands simulator to be VERY accurate to live. In fact, if you look at how it works, tick by tick, it is building the candles and indicators exactly like live/demo but only faster. The only thing it doesn't do is delay between ticks. Let's say it's after hours, and a tick comes in live a minute apart from the previous tick. You will see it in the simulator at the same rate as all the other ticks. So, I can see where a slowdown at the end of building a candle won't be recognized in the sim. Other than that, it is just like the real deal.

Also, for people having trouble clicking lots, the buy/sell line, stop loss, etc, I have found, (but haven't read anyone mention it) that you need to double click the number or line. A single click will just flash the horizontal arrow cursor and won't select the item you want to select.

So, now that everyone has practiced for DAYS AND HOURS using the sim, anyone have any fool proof trading methods they want to share?
  • #280
  • Feb 21, 2009 3:12pm Feb 21, 2009 3:12pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
Ive been using v-hands to test some trading idea's, the problem is that I cant seem to replicate my v-hands success in my demo account. I was wondering If the way that the bars are created is authentic or not, maby the way the bar is constructed takes where the bar closes in to consideration, therefore using the future close info to make the present moves, this would explain my success while testing.

Any thoughts on this?

ps. I am guessing the tester uses 1min bars open and close data, Im using 5min bars to test from.... Anyone using higher...
Use tick data solely.
Open prices won't work (not even with pending orders) as you would be placing the trade on the next CLOSE price (finished bar/candle) and not the actual candle's close, in any timeframe, and there's no use either of the successive tick data in-between (it will be moving from close to close).
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