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  • #11,681
  • Sep 16, 2008 1:47pm Sep 16, 2008 1:47pm
Barclay is saving Lehman.
  • #11,682
  • Sep 16, 2008 1:49pm Sep 16, 2008 1:49pm
Quoting ukvipersden
[rofl] Relax; it's all fun and games - and other people's money (yours and mine)
Crazy days
  • #11,683
  • Sep 16, 2008 2:00pm Sep 16, 2008 2:00pm
Quoting ganymedes
Crazy days
I prefer...Lazy Days
  • #11,684
  • Sep 16, 2008 4:21pm Sep 16, 2008 4:21pm
WASSUP?!?!?!?

No cut, WTH? Dow rallies??? WTH???

Petrobras +4.5%? My long is in LONG OIL LONG LONG HURRICANE LONG COMMODITIES, SHORT SUPPLY, LONG DEMAND

No bailout said the Fed 2 days ago - words come and go

American International Group may work out some kind of deal with the Federal Reserve to shore up its finances by the end of the day, CNBC has learned.

There is no such thing of "some kind of deal with the Fed". There is bailout, no bailout with the Fed
  • #11,685
  • Sep 16, 2008 5:05pm Sep 16, 2008 5:05pm
Cramer:

“It’s the number one institution in the world right now that must be saved,” Cramer said of AIG. “Everything else could go, except for AIG. The markets would freeze and they would not open tomorrow.”

My charts frozen?!? No WAY!!! Bail the MFer out!!! To hell with the taxpayers. If they were as greedy as we are, they would know what we are talking about!!!

Damn hard ass working people.
  • #11,686
  • Sep 16, 2008 5:50pm Sep 16, 2008 5:50pm
HOT NEWS

AIG Increasingly Likely to Get Huge Bridge Loan from Government, Avoid Bankruptcy: Sources (More to Come)
-CNBC

HUUUUGGGEEEE Bridge Loan. Not a bailout
  • #11,687
  • Edited 6:20pm Sep 16, 2008 6:20pm | Edited 6:20pm
It's pretty sad that it's come to this...
Rooting for economic turmoil so that I can let my profits run on half-a-lot with USD/JPY and GBP/JPY.
  • #11,688
  • Sep 16, 2008 7:05pm Sep 16, 2008 7:05pm
Quoting falcon232
It's pretty sad that it's come to this...
Rooting for economic turmoil so that I can let my profits run on half-a-lot with USD/JPY and GBP/JPY.
Yeah, life is a bitch
  • #11,689
  • Sep 16, 2008 7:08pm Sep 16, 2008 7:08pm
Quoting cesarnc
HOT NEWS

AIG Increasingly Likely to Get Huge Bridge Loan from Government, Avoid Bankruptcy: Sources (More to Come)
-CNBC

HUUUUGGGEEEE Bridge Loan. Not a bailout
HOT NEWS UPDATE

American International Group will avoid bankruptcy with the help of an $85 billion loan (WTF??????) from the federal government, in exchange for an 80 percent stake in itself, sources told CNBC.
(...)

The Fed's financial aid for the troubled insurer marks a reversal of its decision on Monday to refuse a bridge loan to AIG.

The Fed met with the company's advisers throughout Tuesday and came to a better understanding of what is needed to help the company through its current crisis, people familiar with the negotiations told CNBC.

All I can read is: BS BS BS Fed BS BS AIG BS BS $85,000,000,000 BS BS BS Bailout

Dow futures +49 afterhours.
  • #11,690
  • Sep 16, 2008 8:39pm Sep 16, 2008 8:39pm
Quoting ganymedes
Ehh, or maybe not...
Up 58 points?? WTF??
Caught me off guard too...but I got in on the retrace.

I guess those pound bulls....are looking for a 9-0 decision for the minutes tomorrow.

HOLLA
  • #11,691
  • Sep 16, 2008 8:44pm Sep 16, 2008 8:44pm
Quoting cesarnc
HOT NEWS UPDATE

American International Group will avoid bankruptcy with the help of an $85 billion loan (WTF??????) from the federal government, in exchange for an 80 percent stake in itself, sources told CNBC.
(...)

The Fed's financial aid for the troubled insurer marks a reversal of its decision on Monday to refuse a bridge loan to AIG.

The Fed met with the company's advisers throughout Tuesday and came to a better understanding of what is needed to help the company through its current crisis, people familiar with the negotiations told CNBC.

All I can read is: BS BS BS Fed BS BS AIG BS BS $85,000,000,000 BS BS BS Bailout

Dow futures +49 afterhours.
Fed had no choice...especially when they kept rates on hold.

So who will they bail out next?......Citi/Merrill????.........

HOLLA
  • #11,692
  • Sep 16, 2008 9:28pm Sep 16, 2008 9:28pm
Morning Gang,,,

we saw eur/usd falls from 1.6 to 1.4 n now both have equaly bad eco data.

will it range ? up or down in short/med term

thx for sharing ur views on the outlook of this pair.....

thx n happy trading ...

-willie-
  • #11,693
  • Sep 17, 2008 12:54am Sep 17, 2008 12:54am
Quoting Turtle
Fed had no choice...especially when they kept rates on hold.

So who will they bail out next?......Citi/Merrill????.........

HOLLA
BAIL OUT???? Who said BAIL OUT?? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We just provide huge bridge loan in exchange for shares, assets, veto rights, etc. BUT MARK MY WORDS.. NO BAIL OUT!!!


BS...
  • #11,694
  • Sep 17, 2008 3:15am Sep 17, 2008 3:15am
Quoting dd33
BAIL OUT???? Who said BAIL OUT?? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We just provide huge bridge loan in exchange for shares, assets, veto rights, etc. BUT MARK MY WORDS.. NO BAIL OUT!!!


BS...
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you were talking about The Fed....who can use different words that mean the same thing......

HOLLA
  • #11,695
  • Sep 17, 2008 4:04am Sep 17, 2008 4:04am
Quoting Turtle
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you were talking about The Fed....who can use different words that mean the same thing......

HOLLA
Fed bought 80% of AIG for $85 billion. It's not a bailout. Fed went long AIG.
  • #11,696
  • Sep 17, 2008 4:11am Sep 17, 2008 4:11am
Quoting cesarnc
Fed bought 80% of AIG for $85 billion. It's not a bailout. Fed went long AIG
It must be the latest Wall Street marketing ploy to get a wider participation in the markets - like all US taxpayers...I wounder how much the "advisors" took out of that deal....http://forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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  • #11,697
  • Sep 17, 2008 4:12am Sep 17, 2008 4:12am
Quoting cesarnc
Fed bought 80% of AIG for $85 billion. It's not a bailout. Fed went long AIG.
From CNBC.com:

 

  1. AIG "Bailed Out", Ex-Allstate CEO to Take Helm Former Allstate CEO Edward Liddy will be the new CEO of AIG, which was rescued by an $85 billion loan from the Fed, in exchange for an 79.9% stake in itself.



    Looks like a "Bail Out" to me......

    HOLLA

  • #11,698
  • Sep 17, 2008 4:39am Sep 17, 2008 4:39am
Quoting Turtle
From CNBC.com:

  1. AIG "Bailed Out", Ex-Allstate CEO to Take Helm Former Allstate CEO Edward Liddy will be the new CEO of AIG, which was rescued by an $85 billion loan from the Fed, in exchange for an 79.9% stake in itself.



    Looks like a "Bail Out" to me......

    HOLLA

Looks like it's official

Bloomberg:
Fed Takes Control of AIG in $85 Billion Bailout to Prevent Record Collapse
  • #11,699
  • Sep 17, 2008 4:39am Sep 17, 2008 4:39am
Quoting Turtle
From CNBC.com:

 

  1. AIG "Bailed Out", Ex-Allstate CEO to Take Helm Former Allstate CEO Edward Liddy will be the new CEO of AIG, which was rescued by an $85 billion loan from the Fed, in exchange for an 79.9% stake in itself.



    Looks like a "Bail Out" to me......

    HOLLA

Looks like The Fed's vocabulary is much "richer" than the media's.
  • #11,700
  • Sep 17, 2008 4:50am Sep 17, 2008 4:50am
Quoting dd33
Looks like The Fed's vocabulary is much "richer" than the media's.
Yeah, Fed should cut through the crap and place a link in its homepage: "Apply for Bailout. NOW! Click here..."
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