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  • #401
  • Edited 3:08pm Sep 8, 2008 2:47pm | Edited 3:08pm
Quoting Keyser Söze
Dear DAVID & anyone else which is trying to make this indicator better ...

I Have 1 Question About The News_Plot !!!
a) How Can I Make A New Indicator Window ???
b) How Can I Put The News_Plot Indicator In The New Indicator Window ???

Thanks ahead :

Keyser Söze
Keyser, first you must create a new window by opening the Navigator (press Ctrl-N) and dragging a sub-window-type indicator, like Average True Range, onto your chart. Then change the color of that indicator to "None", which makes it invisible. Then change the Window parameter in Plot_News to 1, which will place it in the next lower window (the one you just created).

This is the third time I have answered this question (see posts #377 and #396). PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE read the earlier instructional posts (#377, #405).

David
  • #402
  • Edited 3:25pm Sep 8, 2008 2:51pm | Edited 3:25pm
Quoting Keyser Söze
Hello DAVID, JOKOKENDIL & anyone else which is trying to make this indicator better ...

@ 1st THIS INDICATOR IS VERY USEFUL IN MY EYES !!!
But I am realizing right here right now, that the News_Plot is 1h ahead !!!

HOW CAN BE THIS ???
CAN I CHANGE THIS SIMPLE - BUT IMPORTANT - PROBLEM IN THE EDITOR ???
AND WHEN YES !? ?! !? CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW ???

Best regards & thanks ahead :

Keyser Söze
Keyser, remove the Plot_News indicator from your charts. Then check your broker's MT4 time (in the the top of the Market Watch window), and your computer's time. There will still be 1 hour difference. It has nothing to do with the Plot_News indicator. The problem is that your broker's MT4 time is different from your local time.

I live in NZ (GMT+12), but my broker Alpari is GMT+2. So my computer's clock is always 10 hours ahead of MT4 time.

Three possible solutions:
1. Find another MT4 broker.
2. Use another charting product instead of MT4.
3. Change your computer's clock time.

You can not change your broker's MT4 time. This is set by the broker. This question has been asked several times already on this forum.

David
  • #403
  • Edited 3:24pm Sep 8, 2008 3:04pm | Edited 3:24pm
Quoting jokokendil
Hi David and All,
I'm trying to help myself by streamlining information within the most admirable indicator, by adding up vertical line and some others, like fonts, lining up the column of previous|forecast|actual, and the news balls which hanging around on top rather than floating everywhere following the price.
The ball linked with the running price by vertical lines accordingly.
Sorry if i'm disturbing this thread.
I'm just making myself easier.
Thank you very much and well trade...
Joko, the symbols move around with the price correctly, in the version that I posted. If you set AutoRefresh = true, they adjust once every minute. Use the VertSpacing parameter to adjust how far away from the price you want the symbols to be plotted. Change its value to a negative number if you want the symbols to plot above the candle.

I am not going to implement or use vertical lines. IMHO they obscure the candle wicks, and make the screen too cluttered.

I am only supporting one version of this indicator. If each individual wanted a different version, that would amount to way too much work for me. I would need to charge a fee for this service.

If you choose to modify the indicator, you do so at your own risk. Many programmers here don't post their source code, which eliminates this problem.

Please remember that this indicator is offered on a "take it or leave it" basis. I don't have time to reply to any more posts asking for minor programming changes.

David
  • #404
  • Edited Sep 9, 2008 12:48am Sep 8, 2008 5:04pm | Edited Sep 9, 2008 12:48am
Well, I thought I dare not ask about an auditory signal with all this other stuff going on, but there it is! And you know I need it the most.

Congratulations on Version 1.31! I see you're also a Marketing expert, keeping us in suspense until FF.calc has run before we get to see the instructions on the splash screen... and that frightful move in the GBP.

Have failed since its demise to post anything on Imran Sait's Simple 5-Minute Scalping System thread (if it's still there) but must say that that method has given me what I think is the best chart setup for predicting price. (...for what it's worth, since have come to the conclusion that you really can't predict it.) Between those indicators and Plot_News - and now Alert_News - believe MT4 must be the most useful platform for forex, including the hundred-dollar-a-month ones.

For anyone who's interested, Imran's double Laguerre setup is explained below, as promised probably several months ago. The other two very useful things in his setup are Bollenger Bands (under "Indicators" in MT4 Navigator) set to the default setting, and ###Auto Pivot. (Will try and attach a copy.) I toggle between 1, 5 & 15-minute charts after getting an idea of the trend. (Trendlines are good too.) Also use Skunny's Fib. template (with -138.2 and -161.8 lines below the zero line) on Last Week & Last Month bars, and on the last trend. (See Skunny's "Indicator Free Trading", Page 5, for that.)

But still you can't predict the price! Nonetheless, after three years of negative results, have suddenly found it, just like they say in the internet advertisements, and though I don't want to be cryptic a-la-Skunny, maybe it's good practice to keep trying to predict the price, because it's necessary to have the predictive skill for short-term movements as refined as possible. Once I revised (replaced) my trading method I doubled the accout in two weeks, with plenty of leverage to spare. Totally Unprecedented. But really still can't predict the price.

And there are a few other seemingly preposterous things: Based on the assumption that the trend is certainly not my friend (because being in the market trying to catch it tends to to lead to having bad trades at the top and bottom of the trend) ...and on the asumption that it will be impossible to predict the price, have come up with something where neither trending nor accurate-predicting-necessary-to-success is required.




Re. Laguerre: I think this Laguerre Indicator is better than the one used in the latter part of the Simple Method of Scalping thread because it's easier to read. Open it in your chart and set the Inputs to: Gamma=1.6; Count Bars=950. Set the perameters under the second-to-last tab (Mine's in German.) to: 15, 59 and 85. This is the short Laguerre.
--Click and drag a second Laguerre Indicator from the MT4 Navigator to the Indicator Window containing the first Laguerre. Set Inputs to: Gamma=1.8; Count Bars=950. Delate all horizontal lines from the second-to-last tab.
--Believe this is the best of the vast array of indicators, which are really not so effective for predicting price. With this one at least you don't have to put up with the "divergence" thing.

Re: ### Auto Pivot: "Use Sunday Data" should be set to False. Possibly "Weekly S&R Levels" and "Monthly S&R Levels" too.

Skunny's Tread: "Indicator Free Trading"


Pink is the short Laguerre. Looks different in the 3 largest chart-sizes. Does not work in largest 2.

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File Type: mq4 ###Auto Pivot.mq4   15 KB | 442 downloads
File Type: tpl skunny.tpl   1 KB | 449 downloads
  • #405
  • Sep 8, 2008 9:07pm Sep 8, 2008 9:07pm
Quoting hanover
Joko, the symbols move around with the price correctly, in the version that I posted. If you set AutoRefresh = true, they adjust once every minute. Use the VertSpacing parameter to adjust how far away from the price you want the symbols to be plotted. Change its value to a negative number if you want the symbols to plot above the candle.

David
Thanks again David for bothering always.
Anyway, your guidance open my eyes more in the way of using Plot_News.
All the best for you.
Oh yeah, NZ is the best place on earth available.
God bless you.
Joko Kendil Trading For Live
  • #406
  • Sep 8, 2008 11:34pm Sep 8, 2008 11:34pm
Quoting brucewhain
Congratulations on Version 1.31! I see you're also a Marketing expert, keeping us in suspense until FF.calc has run before we get to see the instructions on the splash screen... and that frightful move in the GBP.
Bruce, thanks for the feedback. Not sure I understand your comment about my being a marketing expert...... Plot_News is free, I'm not selling anything.

If you want to post a chart:
-- In MT4, choose menu option File/Save as Picture, then "Active chart as is", and save it with a suitable name, as a GIF or JPG file.
-- On FF forum, click "Manage Attachments" button. Then click the "Choose..." button, and navigate to the the relevant folder, and select the file. Then click "Upload" and after the file has uploaded, click "Close this window". The filename should appear in the "Attach Files" area below.
-- When you click "Submit Reply", your attached chart should appear at the end of your post (see post #405 for an example).

David
  • #407
  • Edited 2:50am Sep 9, 2008 2:20am | Edited 2:50am
Thanks for the help, Hanover. Was trying to post a gif file.

The Marketing comment was merely a devise to get to the "frightful move in the GBP" thing, since that is the kind of move - always in pound pairs - that has lost me the most (play) money over the past year. I keep getting in at the bottom and getting out just as it finishes retracing for fear it will reverse. The result is, all the trades are early, and end up with chronic longs at the top and shorts at the bottom.

Have now discovered that I don't have the psychical stamina to hold a trade even overnight, and have taken to closing all by the end of my trading session every day. Still, in the two weeks I've been doing it this way have had only one losing day.

Now, as to Internet Marketing. After one of those posts I made it was like I could hear you draw a long sigh, as if to say: "I know what's coming." But really I'm not trying to sell anything either. Always my writing sounds like internet Spiel. Perhaps I've read too much of it. Know it has played a large part in forming my preconceptions about forex trading. But really, suddenly my trading is just like the advertisements.

Still this thing sounds like an advertisement. Last nite when I was writing the above post it looked so out of place I thought I'd better PM you. Because remember you saying in one thread or another about your trading, and that's why I'm interested to see if this will work -since am convinced I'm not dumb, though it's not a brainy type system and neither am I.

One thing that was particularly annoying to me was that M.D. intern from NY St. Vincent's in Skunny's thread, who said he worked 16-hours-a-day and still managed to double his account every day without even looking at it. It had the ring of truth, and somtimes get the feeling that sombody's controlling the bad trades of some of us in order to provide more money to 20-year-old twerps and the like. And for the longest time could do nothing but lose money. But here we go again.

Bruce
  • #408
  • Edited 7:47am Sep 9, 2008 5:39am | Edited 7:47am
Quoting brucewhain
Still this thing sounds like an advertisement. Last nite when I was writing the above post it looked so out of place I thought I'd better PM you. Because remember you saying in one thread or another about your trading, and that's why I'm interested to see if this will work -since am convinced I'm not dumb, though it's not a brainy type system and neither am I.
I can't really comment on your system, without testing it extensively myself. I've gotten so familiar with my own approach, that I'm kind of brainwashed into thinking in a certain way. Also, I'm very busy programming EAs and other indicators, so I don't have a lot of time to test systems.

Quoting brucewhain
One thing that was particularly annoying to me was that M.D. intern from NY St. Vincent's in Skunny's thread, who said he worked 16-hours-a-day and still managed to double his account every day without even looking at it. It had the ring of truth, and somtimes get the feeling that sombody's controlling the bad trades of some of us in order to provide more money to 20-year-old twerps and the like. And for the longest time could do nothing but lose money. But here we go again.
It might be possible to double one's account each day, by using high leverage to take huge risks. But that is a suicidal way to trade. Anybody with a consistent 100% daily return would become a billionaire in less than a year - does that sound realistically possible?

There's a huge amount of ego, and wild claims, made in forums such as this. If 90% of traders lose money (as the pundits say), then I guess it makes sense to assume that 90% of the claims about ROI etc that are made on forex forums are false.

David
  • #409
  • Edited 12:46pm Sep 9, 2008 12:44pm | Edited 12:46pm
Quoting hanover
Keyser, first you must create a new window by opening the Navigator (press Ctrl-N) and dragging a sub-window-type indicator, like Average True Range, onto your chart. Then change the color of that indicator to "None", which makes it invisible. Then change the Window parameter in Plot_News to 1, which will place it in the next lower window (the one you just created).
Great Introductions, DAVID !!!

I GOT IT !!! Thanks a lot ...


Quoting hanover
This is the third time I have answered this question (see posts #377 and #396). PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE read the earlier instructional posts (#377, #405).
David
The best things in live are three - i mean free ...

BUT THANKS AGAIN 4 SPENDING YOUR TIME TO HELP US TO USE YOUR News_Plot 4 FREE !!!

Wish U Great Trades ...
http://www.bestbusinessphone.com/ima...iley-phone.jpg

Keyser Söze
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  • #410
  • Sep 9, 2008 1:20pm Sep 9, 2008 1:20pm
Quoting hanover
... It has nothing to do with the Plot_News indicator. ... David
that`s what i am wanting to read !!!

Best regards :

Keyser Söze
  • #411
  • Sep 9, 2008 3:23pm Sep 9, 2008 3:23pm
Quoting jokokendil
Hi David and All,
I'm trying to help myself by streamlining information within the most admirable indicator, by adding up vertical line and some others, like fonts, lining up the column of previous|forecast|actual, and the news balls which hanging around on top rather than floating everywhere following the price.
The ball linked with the running price by vertical lines accordingly.
Sorry if i'm disturbing this thread.
I'm just making myself easier.
Thank you very much and well trade...
Great Stuff JOKOKENDIL !!!
This fine tuning is excactly what i want to have also ...
BUT I AM REALIZING THAT 1 PROBLEM I STILL HAVE !!! Watching The Uploading Chart !!! I DON`T HAVE ALL BALLS FROM UP TO DOWN !!! I Know It`s A Simple Problem Again - But If Then 100% ...

!!! I am Seeing In Your Uploading Charts That You Don`t Have This Problem !!!


Best regards
& stay on focus guys
DAVID, JOKOKENDIL & Anyone Else :

Keyser Söze
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  • #412
  • Sep 10, 2008 4:17am Sep 10, 2008 4:17am
Quoting Keyser Söze
Great Stuff JOKOKENDIL !!!
This fine tuning is excactly what i want to have also ...
BUT I AM REALIZING THAT 1 PROBLEM I STILL HAVE !!! Watching The Uploading Chart !!! I DON`T HAVE ALL BALLS FROM UP TO DOWN !!! I Know It`s A Simple Problem Again - But If Then 100% ...

!!! I am Seeing In Your Uploading Charts That You Don`t Have This Problem !!!

Best regards
& stay on focus guys
DAVID, JOKOKENDIL & Anyone Else :

Keyser Söze
Hi All, and Keyser as well,
Keyser, I saw you're on FxPro, so no wonder that on your chart, you have 5 digit.
So, you're right, it's another easy thing, just set 10x of normal one.
If we have with other broker, we just need 10 for example, but with FxPro, you'll need 100, as 5 digits equivalents.

Here is you're request.
Set YDistFloat to 300 on your FxPro chart.
Done!

I'm not a good programmer, but learning by example only.
Thanks to David as our mentor...
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File Type: mq4 Plot_News_JK.mq4   27 KB | 556 downloads
Joko Kendil Trading For Live
  • #413
  • Sep 10, 2008 9:54am Sep 10, 2008 9:54am
Thanks Ahead 4 Your Feddback JOKOKENDIL !!!


Quoting jokokendil
Hi All, and Keyser as well,
Keyser, I saw you're on FxPro, so no wonder that on your chart, you have 5 digit. So, you're right, it's another easy thing, just set 10x of normal one.
If we have with other broker, we just need 10 for example, but with FxPro, you'll need 100, as 5 digits equivalents.
Thanks 4 realizing this issue ...


Quoting jokokendil
Here is you're request. Set YDistFloat to 300 on your FxPro chart. Done!
Sorry ... I don`t knwo how !? ?! !?
Could you explain me where i can get YDistFloat or what it is !? ?! !?
How can i grow it ???


Quoting jokokendil
I'm not a good programmer, but learning by example only. Thanks to David as our mentor...
I am too ...
Thank U DAVID & JOKOKENDIL & Anyone Else Which Make This Topic Better !!!

Keyser Söze
  • #414
  • Sep 10, 2008 10:32am Sep 10, 2008 10:32am
Hello DAVID, JOJOKENDIL & Anyone Else ...

Perhaps I Got A New Idea To Make News_Plot More Efficient !? ?! !?

Sometimes i am using the Sessions Indicator also while my trading and got the idea to make this indicator more difference - i mean difference with the most important stock echange trading hours ...

The Session Indicator is uploaded - like the equity times also ...

I don`t have the skillz to realizing my idea !!!
DAVID, JOJOKENDIL & everybody else - if someone is interested too !? ?! !?
PERHAPS YOU CAN OVERWRITE OR WRITE A NEWS SESSION INDICATOR !? ?! !?

Please check also the trading hours !!! But i think that there are all right !!!

Best regards & much better trades :

Keyser Söze
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  • #415
  • Sep 10, 2008 8:43pm Sep 10, 2008 8:43pm
Quoting Keyser Söze
Sorry ... I don`t knwo how !? ?! !?
Could you explain me where i can get YDistFloat or what it is !? ?! !?
How can i grow it ???
Keyser Söze
Keyser Söze,
This Plot_News already the best ever made and mentored by Hannover.
So just let this one as it is.
As it has been develop for us for free, so if you want more from that, I have no idea how to make it happen.
Joko Kendil and others are as well as just face-lifting the Plot_News.

David,
I think this thread is more and more interesting now.

Have a nice day and well trade...
John HP HollowPoint Trader Manual Trading At It's Best
  • #416
  • Sep 11, 2008 9:40am Sep 11, 2008 9:40am
Quoting hollowpoint
Keyser Söze,
This Plot_News already the best ever made and mentored by Hannover. So just let this one as it is.
Of course, hollowpoint ...
That`s what i am thinking, said & wrote !!! no doubt

Quoting hollowpoint
As it has been develop for us for free, so if you want more from that, I have no idea how to make it happen. Joko Kendil and others are as well as just face-lifting the Plot_News.
Yes, thats truely true ...
I ONLY HAVE SOME IDEAS TO JUST "FACE-LIFTING" THE "PLOT_NEWS" (NICE WORDING) - NOTHING ELSE !!!

And i am thinking that the SESSION INDICATOR could be even an interesting part of the "FACE-LIFTING" of the "PLOT_NEWS" !!! Nothing more - nothing else !!! If someone could overwrite the SESSION INDICATOR it would be more usefuller than yet - if not so what ...

MAKE THE MOST OF NOW !!!
And Make The Most Of The "PLOT_NEWS" Is/Was Even Yet My Intension

Best regards & trades to u, jokokendil & david :

KEYSER SÖZE
  • #417
  • Sep 12, 2008 1:37pm Sep 12, 2008 1:37pm
Quoting Drew
Hello Keyser, I like your version of the Plot News indicator. How do I get the same set up as you? Ive tried Hanovers but its doesnt look as good as yours..
please help!

Thank you,
Drew

Hello Drew,

if you wanna get the News_Plot like in the imagine read this 3 posts again !!!

Installing the ...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...42&postcount=1

... after that installing the ...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=407

... and put the newstext into a seperate window ...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=410

... and than even don`t forget the SESSION Indicator ...
http://codebase.mql4.com/3578

THIS I THE News_Plot FROM DAVID (HANOVER) WITH THE FACE-LIFTING OF JOKOKENDIL !!! IT IS NOT MY ...

I am only using sometimes the SESSIONS Indicator within and what to have more difference TimeFrames as now (even Asian/Europe/Usa) !!! Perhaps you can overwrite the SESSION INDCATOR for all of us which are interesting in ...

Great weekend :
Keyser Söze
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  • #418
  • Sep 13, 2008 11:14am Sep 13, 2008 11:14am
Brasil?.... Me too

Aniway... Im Thanking you too Hanover, yore great! Great indicator.
  • #419
  • Sep 13, 2008 3:41pm Sep 13, 2008 3:41pm
Quoting gfcgamer
Brasil?.... Me too

Aniway... Im Thanking you too Hanover, yore great! Great indicator.
GFC, thanks for the feedback.

Note to everybody: the latest version of Plot_News (see post #405 above) has now been added to the ZIP file in post #1.


David
  • #420
  • Sep 13, 2008 5:58pm Sep 13, 2008 5:58pm
Hi David,

Apologies in advance for the hassle these changes have been...

You need to change one line in Plot_News.mq4 from v1.31c:

Problem:
if (AutoRefresh == true && curr_min > prev_min) {
When the above curr_min reaches 59, that's the LAST iteration that curr_min > prev_min, because after that, prev_min is always 59... no more AutoRefresh.

Solution:
if (AutoRefresh == true && (curr_min > prev_min || curr_min == 0)) {


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