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  • #141
  • Sep 1, 2008 7:52pm Sep 1, 2008 7:52pm
Your teaching is very much appreciated...If I was a successful trader I wouldn't be on this thread...it is because i am failing at trading that I am a willing student.

I think it is beneficial to all of us who are not doing this for a living to learn from someone who does it for a living and is good at what he does.

Thanks again!
  • #142
  • Sep 1, 2008 8:05pm Sep 1, 2008 8:05pm
Quoting iiivb
i just hope this whole forexgemini thing doesn't become a sales project...
Sadly I also sensed something to that affect, but we'll have to see if Mouteki keeps to his word. In the mean time I'm happy to possibly learn something new...
  • #143
  • Sep 1, 2008 8:47pm Sep 1, 2008 8:47pm
Mouteki,

THANK YOU!
  • #144
  • Sep 1, 2008 8:53pm Sep 1, 2008 8:53pm
Quoting iiivb
My last word on this thread aimed to the newbies -because i see they are the ones that have more "blind-faith"-:

"use ur criteria and don't trust everybody only because he/she says so".

iiivb
I am also a newbie but not naive. I would not worry too much and start speculating about some one's intention unless I see that. So far Mouteki had been doing excellent job and clearly said that he is not doing for money. No one can take a dime from you unless you give it. Why to worry? If at all it happens some day, we have the right to choose or not to choose. There are few respected traders here who charge for private forum. Moutaki, please keep giving us your knowledge and wisdom.

My intention is not to insult any one. We only want free learning, if some one is ready to give and we want to give him/her full respect for that.

Thanks,

-FX_California
  • #145
  • Sep 1, 2008 9:59pm Sep 1, 2008 9:59pm
Thank you M, for your time. hopefully your patience doesn't run out!
  • #146
  • Sep 1, 2008 9:59pm Sep 1, 2008 9:59pm
Quoting midwestguy94
You can mark my words. Be ready to be let down!! So far this is nothing earth shattering we'll see..the proof will be in the pudding as they say.
Really?

You were not even a member when Mouteki was here last. I do not usually comment on these types of posts, but this is too much. Mouteki was fine and did not attempt to sell anything before, when FF gave him his own forum, ( I was one of the moderators for FF.) why should that be different now? I suggest taking him at his word and seeing where this goes. Who knows, maybe something can be learned. Maybe friendships can be formed.

Let him proceed with his thread in peace. If there is a problem down the road, it can easily be dealt with IF it manifests. Otherwise, save the specualtion for the markets.
  • #147
  • Sep 1, 2008 10:03pm Sep 1, 2008 10:03pm
Well said!
  • #148
  • Sep 1, 2008 10:29pm Sep 1, 2008 10:29pm
Hi! I just found your new thread and I'm very happy to see you, Mouteki!

Your original method helped me in becoming confident as a trader. I just checked out your videos and really like your explanations. I'm very much looking forward to more.

Thank you for putting all of this together and don't worry about the negative comments. There are many more of us who really appreciate what you're doing and are looking forward to learning more.
  • #149
  • Sep 1, 2008 10:33pm Sep 1, 2008 10:33pm
Mouteki,

You gotta understand that you can't satisfy everyone all the time. Even after your explanation and 3 free didn't have to pay for instruction videos people are still skeptical of your intentions.

Some people get it and some never will even though they can simply just not come back to this thread.

I wish the thread had an ignore user feature like yahoo msg boards...

keep doing what you are doing...


AkiraRyu

Edit: Actually it does have an ignore user list function. Click the posters name and click the X(add to ignore list).
  • #150
  • Sep 1, 2008 10:35pm Sep 1, 2008 10:35pm
Quoting akirax
Mouteki,

You gotta understand that you can't satisfy everyone all the time. Even after your explanation and 3 free didn't have to pay for instruction videos people are still skeptical of your intentions.

Some people get it and some never will even though they can simply just not come back to this thread.

I wish the thread had an ignore user feature like yahoo msg boards...

keep doing what you are doing...


AkiraRyu

Edit: Actually it does have an ignore user list function. Click ther posters name and click the X(add to ignore list).
couldn't agree more. keep it up and thanks

can't wait to learn more. thanks again
  • #151
  • Sep 2, 2008 2:33am Sep 2, 2008 2:33am
Thanks Mouteki - an excellent and clear statement of your intentions.

I suggest that we all bookmark post #129 and make certain that anyone who wishes to question Mouteki's motives reads it before pissing off the person who's putting in a HUGE ammount of time and effort for our benefit.

And yes guys, we do need patience to allow the less experienced traders to get up to speed - I was taught the same things about fibs more than 10 years ago by Bob Miner and I'm still happy to read another interpretation and look forward to seeing the whole trading plan comes together.
Trading Levels with WRBs
  • #152
  • Sep 2, 2008 3:18am Sep 2, 2008 3:18am
Quoting moutekitrader
I want to start off by addressing some of the comments that have been left here on the thread over the last few days.

As always, forums create confusion and misinterpretation constantly, so I want to dispel some of these beliefs and show you what my intentions are for this thread, my blog, and my videos.

First...I want to tell you about my departure and return to the forum and the reasons for both. Two years ago when I left this forum, I had one of the most popular threads in the factory. It was both exciting and overwhelming. People started PM'ing and asking on the thread for me to teach them personally...and honestly, I didn't want to do that.

I don't have time to teach people one-on-one. In return, I got a lot of negative feedback that I wasn't helpful...and I apologize, but I didn't reveal the orginal "Mouteki Method" as a means to springboard a personal mentoring service.

I simply released the Mouteki Method to show people the system that I used to trade. Simple as that. I didn't know how big of an effect the thread would have and I decided that it was too much to deal with.

Fast forward to today and the reasons why I have returned and why I am releasing the videos and blog. You see, I started seeing "Mouteki Methods" being sold everywhere...on blogs, eBay, etc. People, who have no affiliation with me started selling my system as their own and AT THE SAME TIME, ruining the method AND my reputation. I couldn't sit there and let this shit happen.

That was the reason for my return. The videos that I have been releasing and the blog I started, Forex Gemini, were for two reasons.

1) To break away from the old "Mouteki Method" and establish a new one
2) I wanted to show you exactly how I trade through the use of Screen-cast videos.

That's it.

I DO NOT have any intention of trying to make you pay for what I'm teaching you. The reason that I am making a switch from the Free Wordpress to my own hosted domain is to give me more ability to do what I want on my site.

You see, when you have a free blog through wordpress, it has limited space and bandwidth, as well as limited options to really add what you want. I got my own domain and hosting so I can include downloads for you guys, put some currency calenders on, etc...

Now...to address the whole email situation (which kind of created the misinterpretations that I stated earliar)

In the last few days, I've been asked by many people when the next videos would be released, what kind of time frame I was using, and if I would alert people through email.

This WAS NOT, repeat WAS NOT, my idea. I never came out and said, "Hey let me take your emails." It was suggested by several people who commented both here, and on my blog.

All I did, was ask you guys if you wanted me to do that. I never said that I planned on doing that or that it was final. I simply asked if you wanted me to do that.

Obviously, that has caused a lot of skepticism, so I will not be doing that. It honestly doesn't matter to me...in fact, it's actually easier for me not to spend the extra few minutes to alert you. So, I will keep alerting you through the forum when I post new material.

Now...just to put a close to the old Mouteki Method, let me share some thoughts...

When I posted the Original Mouteki Method two years ago, it was a means to show traders a basis of how the forex market works: Supply and Demand. This was the first system that I developed and I was very successful using it.

In a matter of speaking, the original Mouteki Method was a "Gateway Drug" in order for people to get a basic understanding of the Forex, and give them a base for them to learn and grow their knowledge of successful currency trading.

Do I use this Method today? No.

I don't use this method because it is too basic. I don't want to discredit the method at all by saying this because the method is very solid and can provide you with significant gains. I honestly wish that when I first broke into the forex market that I would have came across something like the Original Method. Unfortunately, I didn't....so that's why I gave it to the public...to give beginners a chance to succeed in their quest for forex knowledge.

My intentions for returning this past week, as stated above, were to seperate myself from all of the bullshit that people have created in order to make a quick buck by stealing (and ruining) the original method.

Hence, the creation of Forex Gemini.

I bought the domain and hosting so I can brand myself and make my new methods more official. I don't want what happened to the Mouteki Method to ever happen again.

So...I started releasing my "over the shoulder" videos as a means to begin the process of my new system, because that is exactly what it is..a Process.

Yes, I am starting out simple, and I know a lot of you understand how Fibonacci's work....but you know what? Not everyone understands them...and I don't want to leave anyone out in the cold. So yes, my first couple videos have been somewhat basic....but I haven't even been back for a week. I need a little patience.

This isn't some quick and easy way to trade. I've been through the trenches of this market, I know exactly what I am doing. It's going to take me a couple weeks to really show you everything so that it starts to all "fall in place" for you.

Honestly...I know that I don't have to do this. People have even offered me money because of what I'm teaching...and I don't want your money. I don't need it. I wanted to give back to the very forum that taught me so much about trading years ago, and give someone else a chance to finally succeed.

I've been in your position when I first started out, and I know how much it sucks to be scammed, or not get something. I completely understand. That's why I'm doing what I'm doing...so that you'll finally be able to trade. For me, it's honestly fun to help those who can't grasp the concepts that I'm showing.

So...that being said...to log-in to the forum and see comments about how "I'm doing this for the money" or how "I plan to charge for these teaching" or how "this is all a sales ploy" REALLY, REALLY pisses me off.

I want you all to realize that I can live the rest of my life without ever having to turn on my computer again. I could take all my funds out of the world bank and disappear and never have to worry about anything ever again.

I'm doing this FOR YOU...NOT FOR ME.

So...to wrap things up...

I want to put an end to all this non-sense. I'm not going to keep posting and contributing to YOUR SUCCESS if I have to constantly defend myself and answer to all of your worries.

So...may I proceed?

Is it ok for me to teaching you?

Can I get back to editing the HUGE presentation video that I've been working on...or am I going to have to answer to these petty complaints about my sincerity?

I think we all would benefit if I simply moved on and if these negative comments deceased.

-Mouteki

Dear Mouteki,

thank you for your explanation.

YOU ARE THE BEST.

Look forward to your videos..
  • #153
  • Sep 2, 2008 4:52am Sep 2, 2008 4:52am
Dear Mouteki, Well done for all your effort to make us to learn your way of trading. I have come to know in the natural way that, helping people to solve problems with good intention makes one happy. With all that you have known,keeping them to yourself is an ordinary joy.However, for you to let other people to benefit is unlimited joy to you the giver.Your former thread was given free of charge and many of us benefited thankfully.Do not forget that some few people critizied you by then, but you still went ahead and that thread remain one of the best in this forum and beyound.Those that opposed you by then where are they now? Think about it Mr Mouteki, you came back after about 2years, and almost everybody including your former critics are welcoming you back to the forum, yes, you have made a very good name.See how many important people that are already in this thread, while others prefer to only learn without necessarilly post any comment.Your generosity has made you an important international forex analist/ mentor.How many forex menthors do you think are available world-wide? How many of them do you think will come this forum and people will listen to, at the same time pull crowd? Be it known unto you that, there is no one that has determined to help other people sacrifitially that will not attract critisism, persicution and mis-understanding.Have it at the back of your mind that, when something is free,only the wise ones can benefit from it. Yes, thousands of trading system are out there that can not perform more than 30%, yet because it is well advertised, so many casualties. Christ gave himself free for all, how many people care? So, if you are being confronted and critizied, it is because you are an outstandind leader that command some authority. You have achieved what many people are strugling to achieve.It is because you are an achiver and a sucessful forex mentor, that is why you have so many family members in this forum. A failure trading system or mentor, is an orphan, nobody whant to identify himself/herself with a failure. We your family members in this forum speak out with one voice that, keep on doing your good mentoring we are benefiting greatly. Thank you.
  • #154
  • Sep 2, 2008 10:54am Sep 2, 2008 10:54am
Hi mouteki,

i have read and used fibs a lot and i really really like your video structure. keep up the good work!!

ignore the ones that insult you.

best regards

wall
  • #155
  • Sep 2, 2008 11:05am Sep 2, 2008 11:05am
it is simply amazing how some ppl believe he is a successful trader just because he says it...

u have no evidence...

beware...

iiivb
  • #156
  • Sep 2, 2008 11:12am Sep 2, 2008 11:12am
Quoting iiivb
it is simply amazing how some ppl believe he is a successful trader just because he says it...

u have no evidence...

beware...

iiivb
you dont need an evidence. if you like his material and it fits your style of trading, you can watch and learn.

if you dont like it you search for something else.

i think you have no idea what you are talking about. why are you even here???? i dont get it man.
  • #157
  • Sep 2, 2008 11:45am Sep 2, 2008 11:45am
Quoting iiivb
it is simply amazing how some ppl believe he is a successful trader just because he says it...

u have no evidence...

beware...

iiivb
Really why are u even here?....go make your own thread since your so sure of your trading skills and see how long your thread last,stop hating on other ppl when there trying to help,thats not healthy I guess with success come haters what a shame.......
  • #158
  • Sep 2, 2008 6:59pm Sep 2, 2008 6:59pm
I am one of the newbies here trying to learn Fibs and I appreciate the way Mr. Mouteki is explaining his method using the videos. I too have spent a small fortune on different forex software and training methods without any consistent earnings. So i welcome this thread its exactly what i need at a time like this where my confidence and self esteem is at a low point because of my loses. Thank you for sharing i really appreciate all you have given. The information has given me hope again.
  • #159
  • Sep 2, 2008 7:55pm Sep 2, 2008 7:55pm
Quoting iiivb
it is simply amazing how some ppl believe he is a successful trader just because he says it...

u have no evidence...

beware...

iiivb
im sorry,

what are trying to proof here???

please let him share what he wants. we have nothing to lose.

even if he has 'something to sell', then it's up to us to go through or stop there.

we are all here to learn and to earn. take what's good and ignore what's not.

cheers
  • #160
  • Sep 2, 2008 9:30pm Sep 2, 2008 9:30pm

Thnx Mouteki

Keep em Coming

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