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  • #541
  • Aug 26, 2008 8:45pm Aug 26, 2008 8:45pm
ok. forgive me for being a noob, but is the face suppose to be smiling or frowning for the EA? Mine is frowning right now, but it says it is still working. I'm using beta2

thanks
  • #542
  • Aug 26, 2008 8:46pm Aug 26, 2008 8:46pm
Quoting tazmaan
I think he said ibfx is gmt, but just check the current time on ibfx and compare to gmt time to find out.
FXDD is gmt -2, i haven't used ibfx for awhile so can't answer you on that one, easy to figure it out tho.
OK, thanks I got it.
  • #543
  • Aug 26, 2008 9:36pm Aug 26, 2008 9:36pm
Quoting sed34
ok. forgive me for being a noob, but is the face suppose to be smiling or frowning for the EA? Mine is frowning right now, but it says it is still working. I'm using beta2

thanks
Frown means that it's not live trading. Click on the frown and then click on 'Common' tab then make sure there is a check in the 'Allow Live Trading' check box. That will turn that frown upside down
  • #544
  • Aug 26, 2008 10:12pm Aug 26, 2008 10:12pm
right, I do programming as a living and deeply appreciate open source efforts of any kind. I am weary of any one person who claims to have all the answers

Am trying both EAs now on my VPS will let you know how it goes good luck all

Quoting Zen_Leow
you're probably one of the many who was burnt by auto-trading. but an EA isn't always on pure auto-trading.

My EAs are created with research as the main aim. to help find the best way and parameters to trade a system. I honestly don't believe you'll be able to constantly look at 10 pairs at the same time and try to find out what is best for each. with the help of EA, you can. key it in and let it run for you while you're busy with something else. check back the results later.

if anyone chooses to trade live using the EA, its their choice.

as for code explaination, it merely helps people understand what the EA is doing so they have a level of assurance. I don't enjoy using just the ex4 files supplied in some other threads cos I hate not knowing (but its the publisher's choice and I respect that), which is why I publish the mq4 codes as well. Knowledge is power. and my knowledge is for all. I don't care if people take my EAs and sell it on ebay or something. I believe karma will get them one day.

I'm all for free speech, but please try and be constructive and not ruin this thread which is meant for sharing.

regards,
Zen
Skype: heliosphan187
  • #545
  • Aug 26, 2008 10:26pm Aug 26, 2008 10:26pm
Quoting paradoxical
I installed the beta 2 EA 3 hours ago on 5 different pairs on the 15 minute charts, and very happy with the results. Nothing at all changed except to trade 24 hours.
GBP/USD plus 15
USD/CHF plus 37
EUR/JPY Plus 26
EUR/JPY Minus 36
EUR/JPY Plus 9 (I manually traded out for reasons I forget now. It's plus 90 as I write!)
Love the stop loss feature. Great start!
Hey Paradox,
Impressive results. Could you post a screen shot of your parameter settings?

Thanks.
  • #546
  • Aug 26, 2008 11:18pm Aug 26, 2008 11:18pm
SSE still not making any trades, SS is but it appears a tad bit off. Settings and charts:

Settings for SSE B2:
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EA_MAGIC_NUM=694373
iOpenHour=0
HoursToTrade=24
Title1=Signal Configuration
EMA_Close_Period=5
EMA_Open_Period=8
MomentumVT_Input=10
QQE_Smooth_Factor=1
EMA_Entry_Signal_Buffer=5
QQE_Entry_Signal_Buffer=1
EMA_Exit_Signal_Buffer=15
QQE_Exit_Signal_Buffer=15
Wait_For_Candle_Close=1
Title2=Trade Management
Slippage=3
UserDefinedSpread=0
TakeProfit=200
StopLoss=30
BreakEvenPips=25
TrailingStop=20
UseFloatingStop=1
MoneyManagement=1
RiskPercent=1.50000000
Lots=1.00000000
LotsDecimalAllowed=2
MaxLots=15.00000000
MinLots=0.01000000
---------------------
(For some: I got those settings by saving a copy of the settings when you edit the properties of the EA. I then opened that .set file in notepad and copied/pasted)

and the Charts:
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  • #547
  • Aug 26, 2008 11:47pm Aug 26, 2008 11:47pm
Quoting Harry123
Hey Paradox,
Impressive results. Could you post a screen shot of your parameter settings?

Thanks.
I think he has, he said he has changed nothing except for trading
24 hrs
  • #548
  • Aug 26, 2008 11:49pm Aug 26, 2008 11:49pm
Quoting FrostCall
SSE still not making any trades, SS is but it appears a tad bit off. Settings and charts:

Settings for SSE B2:
-----------
EA_MAGIC_NUM=694373
iOpenHour=0
HoursToTrade=24
Title1=Signal Configuration
EMA_Close_Period=5
EMA_Open_Period=8
MomentumVT_Input=10
QQE_Smooth_Factor=1
EMA_Entry_Signal_Buffer=5
QQE_Entry_Signal_Buffer=1
EMA_Exit_Signal_Buffer=15
QQE_Exit_Signal_Buffer=15
Wait_For_Candle_Close=1
Title2=Trade Management
Slippage=3
UserDefinedSpread=0
TakeProfit=200
StopLoss=30
BreakEvenPips=25
TrailingStop=20
UseFloatingStop=1
MoneyManagement=1
RiskPercent=1.50000000
Lots=1.00000000
LotsDecimalAllowed=2
MaxLots=15.00000000
MinLots=0.01000000
---------------------
(For some: I got those settings by saving a copy of the settings when you edit the properties of the EA. I then opened that .set file in notepad and copied/pasted)

and the Charts:
All i can suggest is remove your SS one, and try only the beta 2,on your platform, are you using it on the same platform but diff charts ??
  • #549
  • Aug 26, 2008 11:59pm Aug 26, 2008 11:59pm
Quoting krufx
I think he has, he said he has changed nothing except for trading
24 hrs
Just want to be sure because the default lot size is 200 which is rather high for demo or retailers.
  • #550
  • Aug 27, 2008 12:07am Aug 27, 2008 12:07am
Quoting krufx
All i can suggest is remove your SS one, and try only the beta 2,on your platform, are you using it on the same platform but diff charts ??
Correct. I have two EU and two GU charts open. One of each runs SSE and one of each runs SS. Neither runs both at the same time. Also, I have unique magic numbers for each of the two SSE's 'just in case'. I'll try running 1 chart with SSE and nothing else on the other charts and see what happens.
  • #551
  • Aug 27, 2008 12:57am Aug 27, 2008 12:57am
Of course, make sure the beta2 ea has not only diff magic numbers for every pair you have it set on, but also make sure those numbers are different than the beta1 numbers as well.
You probably already checked that however.

You also have your MA cross set to allow 5 bars to line up with the qqe and momentum to trigger the trade, but you have your qqe set to only allow 1 bar. So basically, in order to enter a trade, you will need to have all 3 of your indicators happen within 1 bar to trigger an entry trade (i believe). Because of the qqe entry buffer setting you chose.
  • #552
  • Aug 27, 2008 1:18am Aug 27, 2008 1:18am
Quoting tazmaan
You also have your MA cross set to allow 5 bars to line up with the qqe and momentum to trigger the trade, but you have your qqe set to only allow 1 bar. So basically, in order to enter a trade, you will need to have all 3 of your indicators happen within 1 bar to trigger an entry trade (i believe). Because of the qqe entry buffer setting you chose.
tazman, that's rather incorrect. let me explain again. the reason why I separate QQE entry buffer and EMA entry buffer was precisely to not be restricted by what you stated.

think of the indicators separately. so if say I have EMA_Entry_Buffer set to 5, it only means EMA signal is valid if there is a cross over that happened within 5 bars before this signal bar. then I have QQE_Entry_Buffer set to 2. means the QQE signal is valid if there's a crossover between the QQE solid line and dotted line within 2 bars before the signal bar. when both signal valid and MomentumVT is valid, enter a trade.

and if you set any of the buffer to 0, it will merely check whether its above or below for that particular indicator, and dun care about crossovers.

so you see, the signal buffers can be set with different values. In fact, I'll encourage this, if not I wouldn't have incorporated such a feature.

regards,
Zen
Programming for a better future.
  • #553
  • Aug 27, 2008 1:36am Aug 27, 2008 1:36am
Guys,

for those of you who aren't making trades with my EA, can you take a look at the "journal" tab or "expert" tab below to see if there's any error messages? post them here so I can debug or probably come up with an answer.

One more thing. can I just confirm if you've read the pdf manual I posted with the first EA? you need to read this in order to know how to make use of the settings. if you've read it, you should see this...

LotsDecimalAllowed = 2
If your broker only lets you get as low as mini lots and not to micro, set this to 1.

if your client isn't making trades with my EA, my best guess is you've not changed this setting to 1.
e.g. of mini lot is 0.1
e.g. of micro lot is 0.01
any lot size that needs the 2nd decimal place requires the broker to have micro lot support.

Let's say your broker can only go as low as mini and not micro. and the EA's MoneyManagement algorithm calculated a lot size of 0.32. and the program sends a trade using this lot size. it will be rejected by the broker's server cos of the 0.02 which it doesn't allow.

if you've set the setting to 1, the EA will round up the lot size to 1 decimal point. 0.3, and submit this instead which should go through.
I will write a more in depth manual for the coming versions but there's no point in me writing it if they aren't read and followed...

regards,
Zen
p.s., I think Alpari don't accept micro lots, so the LotsDecimalAllowed setting should be set to 1. InterbankFX allows micro lots so the default setting is ok for IBFX customers.
Programming for a better future.
  • #554
  • Aug 27, 2008 2:01am Aug 27, 2008 2:01am
Quoting Zen_Leow
tazman, that's rather incorrect. let me explain again. the reason why I separate QQE entry buffer and EMA entry buffer was precisely to not be restricted by what you stated.

think of the indicators separately. so if say I have EMA_Entry_Buffer set to 5, it only means EMA signal is valid if there is a cross over that happened within 5 bars before this signal bar. then I have QQE_Entry_Buffer set to 2. means the QQE signal is valid if there's a crossover between the QQE solid line and dotted line within 2 bars before the signal bar. when both signal valid and MomentumVT is valid, enter a trade.

and if you set any of the buffer to 0, it will merely check whether its above or below for that particular indicator, and dun care about crossovers.

so you see, the signal buffers can be set with different values. In fact, I'll encourage this, if not I wouldn't have incorporated such a feature.

regards,
Zen
Hey Zen,
Thanks for the follow up on that, but I guess I am still not quite grasping it correctly. If you have the qqe signal buffer set to 2, the ea still wont take a trade unless all 3 indicators line up within 2 bars in my mind at least. This is due to the fact that the momentum and the qqe now need to be within two bars in order to trigger the trade. Yes, I understand that the ema cross doesn't have to be within two bars, but the other two will still need to be won't they?

In any case, I was just trying to help him figure out why he might not be getting trades triggered, since he seemed to be having a problem. I have kept myself from being confused about that feature in my own testing, simply because I set the QQE buffer to 0, so I don't need a cross to happen at all to enter a trade, it just needs to be in the correct location (over or under dotted line).

Let's use this as an example:
we have ema enter buffer set to 5, and qqe enter buffer set to 2

In this example we are going short
lets say the ema crossed 5 bars ago
Lets say qqe just crossed in the latest bar
If momentum is still not under 0 we wont get a sell trade yet
if momentum does not cross under for another 3 bars, we are now passed our 2 bar buffer for qqe signal correct? so no trade will occur now.
also, the ema buffer was set to 5, so we are passed the 5 bars as well for the ema, so no trade would occur because of that also.

Anyhow, this could be way too much overkill, because I do believe I understand how you have coded this and in all of my trades thus far they all seem to jive just fine. But I do believe there would be instances where people might be thinking the ea isnt taking trades when it should, but it's based on what settings they put in for these entry buffers. All I was getting at.

Sorry to confuse things more
  • #555
  • Aug 27, 2008 2:07am Aug 27, 2008 2:07am
Fixed it. It was looking for the QQE indicator to be called QQE.ex4
So, all I had to do was rename one of my QQE indicators and like magic, it started working. On a related note, using default settings, I ran it in the tester using EU on a 4 hour chart from July/2006 to 8/25/08 and it came out rather poorly. But I got her working! I'm going to test with a few different charts and settings to try to optimize it.
  • #556
  • Aug 27, 2008 2:09am Aug 27, 2008 2:09am
Ah yes, sorry I should have mentioned that also, as I had to the same thing. renamed qqea.ex4 to qqe.ex4, as it was flooding the log, was kinda hard to miss for me.
Glad you got it sorted out.
  • #557
  • Aug 27, 2008 2:17am Aug 27, 2008 2:17am
Quoting tazmaan
Ah yes, sorry I should have mentioned that also, as I had to the same thing. renamed qqea.ex4 to qqe.ex4, as it was flooding the log, was kinda hard to miss for me.
Glad you got it sorted out.

The funny thing is, I saw that and I saw a post a while back that mentioned it as well. Somehow, I interpreted the post to say 'don't worry about it'. It wasn't until I ran the tester that it hit home.
  • #558
  • Aug 27, 2008 4:23am Aug 27, 2008 4:23am
Hello guys. The ea took of the rest of the trades out almost perfectly yesterday, only error I noticed while testing on 1 min as been resolved, thanks to zen. I got similar results with those posted by paradoxical and reddevilpin.
Still doing the optimization for the EA. I will release the best settings as soon as it has finished.
Good hunting to all.
  • #559
  • Aug 27, 2008 4:33am Aug 27, 2008 4:33am
Quoting Wahnone
Hello guys. The ea took of the rest of the trades out almost perfectly yesterday, only error I noticed while testing on 1 min as been resolved, thanks to zen. I got similar results with those posted by paradoxical and reddevilpin.
Still doing the optimization for the EA. I will release the best settings as soon as it has finished.
Good hunting to all.
Thanks Wahnone, getting some good, some not so good results on TF15,
thinking of trying diff TF's, only trying 3 pairs at the mo.....will be very interested to see your settings..........
  • #560
  • Aug 27, 2008 9:12am Aug 27, 2008 9:12am
Only changes I made to the EA are to trade 24 hours and set the entry signal buffer to zero. Everything else left as is. Trading 5 pairs. Interesting that all of the 5 trades made before 7:00 GMT (which is midnight PST), were stopped out at losses. The ones made after that. The ones made and closed after 7:00 GMT are plus 47 pips. There were two losers on EUR/JPY totalling 68 pips included. Also, the 20 pip trailing stop worked perfectly. Have 3 open trades at +29 pips. Will keep the testing going. Seems Wahnone was correct to not do any trades until 7:00 GMT, as all the trades the EA made before then were losers. EA also seems to be working fine. Have to figure out why is only works on my Interbank demo. Maybe because I don't have all of the correct indicators in the other demo accounts with Alpari and WHC?
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