Hedge trading spieler system derived from futures spread trading

sorry 162.69 gmt time closed of yesterday
16269x100.25% = 163.096

ok thank you

Hi everybody,

which broker do you use for charting for this strategy? And how do you open trades, manually or with robot? Thanks

on the last 10 years i have never rely on broker graphs because i know no broker offering nice ones.
I think that is the reason why there are still some graphs providers

I enter manually ( on spread futures i used robots)

To Spieler:

Thanks for your reply. Could you tell me what money management do you recommend. Let's say I have 5K account so how many lots could I trade? Thanks again

Spieler.

Have you ever tested to open a position LONG, with a diferent Ratio (maybe inverted). when you get an entry point like +0.25% instead to go short?. If it works, it will be better because the swap´s will ever be positive.

thanks

Marcelo Granada

I missed your entry but got in just now at eur/chf 1.6320
Short eur/usd @ 1.5587
Short usd/chf @ 1.0468
I think I got lucky to get another shot at the entry 6 hours after the first opportunity.

Me too Markus, I missed previous entry and entered some minutes ago at 1.6317

The way I see it is EURCHF cross is completely different since both of the components are exposed to USD in the world market. No matter which one you have when USD appreciates or depreciates your asset value in hand will change.
When you have a weighed UC and EU "against each other" they cancel the USD expose at that time since they are as much USD long as short therefore USD exposure is 0 or close. Of course the currencies change so that won't always remain so but it's much less than being .3 lots USD directional or whatever that percentage of your position is.
Once you eliminate USD then you can see the real correlational spread between the two currencies CHF and EUR since you eliminated the global component of USD.

Sorry if it is a little wordy but if anyone understands it, let me know if it makes sense.




EDIT: O just if anyone wants to try...draw a graph of USDCHF + EURUSD and have USDCHF multiplied by enough to match EURUSD's exposure to USD at each point, you get a completely different and much more normalized graph that would be perfect to trade and very easy (of course this is impossible)

New version.

Bug fixed: repeatead alerts at crossing the zero line.
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Greetings to all.

Spieler, I really like this thread and would love to learrn and be able to successfully trade it. Thanks for sharing...

? to any and everyone...

I am a little confused: What point or price do we now call 0%. Sunday's EUR/CHF open (according to my broker) was 1.6276 - Mon's open / Sun's close was 1.6282 - Tue's open / Mon's close is 1.6317.

What do YOU have as your 0% point right now - since we all seem to be on slightly different pages. With different #s I may be waiting to sell and you to buy.

Thanks in advance for your response.

0 point is very easy it is the close of the day before or open of the day you trade which are suppposed to be the same .
An exception can occurs on sunday because of a potential gap.

But , because unfortunatly, there is always a but as my main goal is to stay alive with my capital i have introduced money management parameters which make this point moove under certain cirsonstancies i tried to explain on some former posts.

Like you are long 1 lot at -0.25% , we close at -0.15% you are not waiting -0.25% to put a second lot but -0.25% under your entry point
Or same position but we close at -0.35% . you are waiting -0.25% and not only -0.15%.

There are others exemple specialy on monday where in most case you take friday or sunday closed depending on th emost conservatice entry point for the system.


As for inversed ratio mentionned previously even if i get the point i have never tested it because it goes against the decorrelation/ recorrelation but looks a clever thing.
I will check it to see if i can do something with that ( let me doubt so far )

Our position is good today waiting now a south direction to get out around 162.70 but i think i will eait a little bit more on that one depending on speed.
On th eother hand i am waiting 162.50 To enter a second lot ( 0.25% more than my first entry which will be +0.31% for today

Trade safe

Nothing to do with this thread but i entered long eur/usd yesterday at 1.5558 almost the low of the day on the non written rule known as the 200pips eur/usd rule.

This rule known among big traders says that eur/usd cannot loose ( or win)more than 200pips a day .
Of course it could but as a lot of big boys are players they are very cautious when we approach this point.
At 1.5558 the loss of the day was -200pips so i decided to give it a try with a close stop.
I am still in that position with almost 40pips with me .

Good risk/reward

Hi spealer,

i cannot use the ea .. can you guide me

i you read the thread you will see that i KNOW NOTHING ABOUT this EA so cannot help as i dont use it and dont know if it is exactly what my system is

You mean 163.50 right?

To spieler:

could you write your +0.25 and -0.25 levels for today? Thanks

SwingMan is getting annoying already with his Microsoft style '.ex4' files.

Maybe he means 1.6350 for EURCHF

Nobody forces you to download every single version.
You should thank him for the time and effort which he invests.
I'm finding your post very unappropriated.