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  • #61
  • Jul 16, 2007 9:09am Jul 16, 2007 9:09am
Ok, I've seen many very impressive graphs in this thread, but I'm trying to develop a real "grail" (whether that exists or not, that's been discussed millions of times, no need here). Anyway, I've got a system I'm writing with good results over history and I want to make sure that I'm not creating a pipe-dream. Anyway, those of you that have created "fake" grails, what made them fake? What exploits were used, and should be avoided? I saw that one used a bad feed to create a "fake grail". I could see faking a grail by parsing the fxt file and looking into the future. I could also see things that wouldn't work in real life like waiting for a fast move and getting in on it (which wouldn't be possible in real life with all the requotes). Also if your EA could open and close in the same 1 minute bar I could see inaccuracies. I'm not asking for any code, just what concepts that made these fake grails that I should avoid for writing a real EA.

Thanks,

TrumpetTrader
  • #62
  • Jul 16, 2007 9:46am Jul 16, 2007 9:46am
Quoting Kurka Fund
Sell this on Ebay.... 10$... 5 for me 5 for you....
Deal
I am hungry for pips
  • #63
  • Apr 9, 2008 4:23pm Apr 9, 2008 4:23pm
Quoting TrumpetTrader
Ok, I've seen many very impressive graphs in this thread, but I'm trying to develop a real "grail" (whether that exists or not, that's been discussed millions of times, no need here). Anyway, I've got a system I'm writing with good results over history and I want to make sure that I'm not creating a pipe-dream. Anyway, those of you that have created "fake" grails, what made them fake? What exploits were used, and should be avoided? I saw that one used a bad feed to create a "fake grail". I could see faking a grail by parsing the fxt file and looking into the future. I could also see things that wouldn't work in real life like waiting for a fast move and getting in on it (which wouldn't be possible in real life with all the requotes). Also if your EA could open and close in the same 1 minute bar I could see inaccuracies. I'm not asking for any code, just what concepts that made these fake grails that I should avoid for writing a real EA.

Thanks,

TrumpetTrader
1. Data quality, artificial ticks etc.
2. No slippage or requotes.
3. Curve fitting.

it exists in all EAs.. questios is how you handle them.

regards
  • #64
  • Apr 10, 2008 6:00am Apr 10, 2008 6:00am
Quoting Kurka Fund
Like this ?
LOL, nice equity curve!
  • #65
  • Jul 25, 2008 3:08am Jul 25, 2008 3:08am
Pls help me to make nice curve on my ea.
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  • #66
  • Jul 25, 2008 2:14pm Jul 25, 2008 2:14pm
would be a good idea if you post
your ea.
  • #67
  • Jul 25, 2008 2:27pm Jul 25, 2008 2:27pm
Your EAs are all puny compared with mine.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1216186037



That there is 97 BILLION
  • #68
  • Jul 25, 2008 3:20pm Jul 25, 2008 3:20pm
Man, fake grail hunting with that amount of free parameters is like shooting fish in a barrel, I've produced fake grails with 4 free parameters, that's macho fake grailing
The breaking of a wave cannot explain the whole sea.
  • #69
  • Jul 26, 2008 10:39am Jul 26, 2008 10:39am
Quoting Ronald Raygun
Your EAs are all puny compared with mine.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1216186037



That there is 97 BILLION
Omg... omg
  • #70
  • Jul 26, 2008 10:44am Jul 26, 2008 10:44am
i canot posting herein, cause grails of mine are real, not fake.
  • #71
  • Jul 26, 2008 11:59am Jul 26, 2008 11:59am
Quoting Ronald Raygun
Your EAs are all puny compared with mine.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1216186037



That there is 97 BILLION
Doesn't count, you only have 89.50% modelling quality. You need to have the "required minimum" of 90%.
  • #72
  • Jul 26, 2008 12:01pm Jul 26, 2008 12:01pm
sure they are. more claims without evidence....

Quoting jane
i canot posting herein, cause grails of mine are real, not fake.
  • #73
  • Last Post: Jul 26, 2008 1:20pm Jul 26, 2008 1:20pm
Quoting tdion
sure they are. more claims without evidence....
my proofing is simple: i living (real living) sehr nicely thx to trading.
i am hoping u r 2
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