Hedge trading spieler system derived from futures spread trading

Ok, Spieler, thanks for the explanation. I just wanted you to see how it looks on my platform, where entry prices are averaged:

So I enter at 15804 and 10275, and enter a second lot at 15701 and 10385. My average entry, therefore, is 15752 and 10330. So if I took profit at exactly the same places you took your profits, I would gain +4 pips at 15668,10380 and +36 pips at 15646,10374.

You can plot a MM5 exponential on a daily chart and decide to tak elong only if prices are under and short if prices are above.
It can help at the beginning but better will be if we are above and i have a long signal wait 0,35% instaed of 0,25 but take it .

One more question please. The advice you gave in your post above regarding lot size to trade for that size account, would you still be ok at this lot size ratio to be able to complete the whole max 5 position entry if needed or are you saying this would only be enough to take 3 rounds?

5 position sis ok if during the process you are abble to get one or 2 lots in/out with profits and it is usually the case.

You can take profits on the 4th one with 0,25 gain instead of 0,50 ( remember you wait 0,50 to enter a fourth lot) to be more confortable and expand your bp

a broker averaging position is a pain with this system.
it becomes difficult to follow specialy if you have only one leg at one moment

Hy, spieler! I'm a silent reader of your strategy. I must say this is one of the stress free method to trade forex. I hope i manage to understand it completely and some day to make real trades using it.
In the name of all the thread readers, I thank you for your efforts!
Keep up the great job you're doing here!

thanks cornelius and others

Today good to go to the beach because free trade day..

Nothing mooving .

exemple of what we could do in future spread trading for those thinking you cannot win with that kindda strategy.
And X per 2 to get it in usd cause theses are gbp...........

Was one of our top ten trade almost 8% in 2/3 days with low risk.

Uao That's impressive Spieler ! Great Job !

That's a very great trade, Spieler! Are you willing to share us this method, too?

Forexfactory is about forex as the name says ........
so cannot sorry

So let's create a new site FutureFactory eheheh

spieler-

Thanks, will give the MA5 a try. Just waiting patently now for you to explian a bit more about your MM rules and give us any useful tips.

In short one lot
1,6 lot short usd/chf at 1,0393
1 lot short eur/usd at 1,5676
Eur/chf +0,30%

Almost same short at usd/chf 1,0392
Eur/usd at 1.5676
Eur/chf at 1.6294 (+0,24 )

I use Oanda so don't have to think about lots just make trade value the same.

Hi Spieler !

I'm following your thread with interest and have a question regarding
trading your method.

Here is what I look for :

1. Long scenario :

- EUR/CHF reaches - 0.25 level => Buy 1 lot EUR/USD and 1.6 USD/CHF
- EUR/CHF reaches - 0.50 level => Same scenario again
- EUR/CHF reaches - 0.75 level => Same again
- EUR/CHF reaches - 1.00 level => Same again
- My exit is at crossing zero level

Similar procedure for short scenario

For finding right entry and exit point I'm using Sidus Method
=> 5/8 WMA Close and 18/28 EMA close

Am I right ?

Greetings and happy trading

Bernhard

Hi,


I folowed the thread and now got to the finish but some things are not clear for me. I wrote a simple ea to test over a period of time the system and it ends up positive after a fiew years of testing. Basicaly it's easy - you average down and manage the open positions. The open positions will be opened at distance of 0.25 (first 3) after 0.5 (next 2) after 1...
0.25,0.25,0.25,0.5,0.5,1...
When a retrace we close the 0.25 ones one level up. After that we close all positions that get retrace in the middle of the distance between the levels. If it's opened at 1.25 we can close at 1 because 1 is (0.75+1.25)/2
Anyway doesn't matter too much now, so i used open at level x close on next level.

1) In my tests i've seen that the trend could go more in the bad direction so what's next after 1? Should be 2,4,8,16?...
2) If the trend doesn't reverse when will we stop all the positions and take the loss. When we know that we have to take the loss because the trend won't reverse?

For example in the picture below i got to 2% and trend went a bit more down before coming back up. I closed everything when all positions open/closed for that move were totaling 0.


Thanks, Victor

I also took 1 short position.
10:01 GMT-4 eur/chf 1.6303
Sell 1.6 lots usd/chf @ 1.0397
Sell 1 lot eur/usd @ 1.5670
Back in the game with a new broker. Hopefully this works out better than last time.

Sorry to say that guys but you have to do your part of the job and read the full 47 pages before asking questions i have answered several times.Anyway one more time for the road:1) I have never say you have to put one more lot on each increment of 0,25%.First 0,25 is an exemple , it can be 0,30 and should be based on pace.sometimes it goes up or down fast . You will be crazy to enter without waiting a little bit.I said as well after 3 rounds to put one more after +0,50 and not 0,25% and then 0,50% and then 1%.This 1% should be cut after a 0,50 retracement and not 1%.the 0,50 at 0,252) doing an ea with 0,25 increment is bad according to me because i said that you have to take into account close of the day and not entry point to put an other lot.Exemple you are long ( enter at -0,25%) day finish at -0,40% so you are down 0,15%. You have to wait -0,25 again to put another lot and not 0,10 by following a rule of every 0,25% i never speak about ( in intraday yes but not on)I suppose it is my mistake by having started this thread in the system file where ea addicts are .THis system is more complicated than it appears and not following a sound money management i try to explain when situation occurs will hurt your account.You have to look at what happens days before to check if we are ina trend or in range an ea will not do that Our position is even now but will be ON i think because low volume

sidus ???
what is that this system is not about ta but div and correlation

Spieler,

I know you put the increments sometimes at 0.20 sometimes at 0.30 depending on logic but i wanted to test on a long period of time if the MM works. I also know that after 3 rounds you use 2 rounds with 0.50 and after 1 round with 1% which is visible in my picture also. (first 3 orders are at 0.25% after we have to with 0.50% and after one 1 with 1%)
Anyway i haven't took into account the interday reset of percents. (and calculated from the start point) What i wanted to ask you is what you do in case of bad logic and opening a big series of orders averaging down after 6 rounds what you do? you still put orders at 2%,4%...i don't know. Do you stop and wait to reverse? Do you close everything and assume the loss? When do you know if it's a loss or not?

The purpose of the ea was to find a big trend where the averaging down doesn't work and finding solutions for it. I'm not EA addicted but i like to follow clear rules and to take clear actions in clear situations having unclear rules goes to disaster.
With an ea i can also check in no time if it works or not. The results were good but i got a fiew cases that opened a series of trades and closed them 3 months later because of a continous trend in the opposite direction.


So to resume i want to say that doesn't matter when you open/when you close and what distance you have between the trades if you are on the wrong direction with your trades and the trend goes for a long time you are in trouble and yet you haven't spoke about a sollution for this kind of problems.

Thanks, Victor

my post was not for you

Give me the period and i will tell you how i managed it but i have never encounter the situation you are describing.

Because i have always see pull back so that i could unwind one or 2 positions.

And sometimes if there is a big trend i can decide after a pull back if i am unconfortable to close everything with an acceptable loss or break even but it does not happen a lot of time.

I have answer for 2 trendy periods alreday in this thread and both of them have been profitable.