A quick read of the ezz troll posts and its onto the ignore list.
Remember folks "Don't Feed the Trolls"
Enjoy
Ademac
Remember folks "Don't Feed the Trolls"
Enjoy
Ademac
- #11,663
- Jul 14, 2008 12:03pm Jul 14, 2008 12:03pm
- | Commercial User | Joined Aug 2006 | 12,004 Posts
- #11,664
- Jul 14, 2008 12:04pm Jul 14, 2008 12:04pm
- | Joined Mar 2008 | Status: shoe shine boy | 1,146 Posts
- #11,667
- Jul 14, 2008 12:25pm Jul 14, 2008 12:25pm
- Joined Jan 2008 | Status: <<--(-$-)-->> | 5,571 Posts
I believe . . .
- #11,668
- Jul 14, 2008 12:31pm Jul 14, 2008 12:31pm
- | Joined Mar 2008 | Status: shoe shine boy | 1,146 Posts
- #11,670
- Jul 14, 2008 2:23pm Jul 14, 2008 2:23pm
- Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Screw Long Term 5min For Life! | 1,259 Posts
I feel like I'm writing a rant a day lately.
I hate to do it in this thread, but I'm getting fed up with this kind of behavior. IMHO it's just so much trolling.
There's one or two guys in particular who seem to love to instigate randy "statement, statement" chants, along with a group of dedicated followers, and me, personally, I'm not very fond of it catching on. It's one of the reasons, I, too, can get very fed up with FF and open forum behavior in general(it's not just raczek, and best I know, the phenomenon isn't confined, either).
Here's what I think.
I think there will be some who prefer to sit and do nothing until someone has catered to their whim and there will be some who will actually open their eyes and see what's in front of them and take hold of their opportunities.
Me personally, I'm definitely not a caterer. I have always helped people who are willing(in thousands of posts, in hundreds of PMs), but I won't cater to demands.
I think the biggest sillyness in it all is, that there are actually people less willing to believe in a logic held in front of their eyes(which they could independently verify themselves for functionality or not IF they were to just put in the TIME and EFFORT.), rather than in a digital statement in a time where we can make whole movies based in virtual reality, let alone magic together a simple statement.
In trading as in life, you WILL get what you want to believe in, just like rustyjeff said.
If repeatable setup + trade = outcome(I've accumulated around 3000 chart gifs over time, I'm sure it's all fake though!!111) isn't convincing, nothing will ever be. If you can't accept reality, how can you live in it.
If I'd waited to do something decisive about my trading until someone held my hand, showed me tons and tons of statements and said in a soothing voice "There there, things will be alright", I'd still be moving from thread to thread, getting nowhere, knowing nothing.
You make a choice.
Anything else is just shifting responsibility to the others, since hey, of course they're the ones who need to do something(provide proof, e.g.), not yourself (Actually pick up the slack and get going. Nobody is saying be blind or take things for granted or move without due diligence. Oh no. Quite the opposite. But if you deny EVERYTHING, then you're automatically left with NOTHING).
And that's what I think this type of "nothing before nothing" behavior is destined for.
Going nowhere.
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Barely some hours into the week, and this is what I wake up to. What a way to go.
Pondered 20 minutes whether I should even post it, since I'm just so tired of all this sillyness. I just can't stand this type of thing at all anymore.
It just gets older than Methusalem and it doesn't ever seem to stop.
The simple reason why it's absolutely, mindnumbingly pointless to demand a "statement", because it actually holds NO statement as to functionality at ALL.
You can give the world's greatest system to two people and one will blow it smithereens and one will make more than the creator(I wonder whether anyone said this before. Oh wait...this guy on the VERY FIRST POST.).
This is true for ANY approach and you can find countless posts of people saying "took the same thing, didn't close where you did, ended up in a loss, shame"(or the opposite) all over FF.
I've also seen plenty of people take "signals" from systems that never were valid and proclaimed how great they worked, just as soon as folks that took stuff that never was an entry in the first place and declared someting dysfunctional.
Q.E.D.
Does the guy busting it to pieces make the original work any less or was he just not made for utilizing it / lacking the experience and practice to use it properly?
Don't troll / don't be a Troll.
That is why I tell people I am just lucky, I do not try to point out why it works anymore, I did for the 1st few years now I just say it's luck. Same with my brother, he plays poker for a living and for the past 11 years he's just been really lucky
Keep taking CT trades, I need more money
- #11,671
- Jul 14, 2008 2:29pm Jul 14, 2008 2:29pm
- Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Mmmm pips. | 1,418 Posts
SL / raczek... don't let it get to you. The people who are annoying won't be here past 100-200 posts anyway, so why does it matter? Just more of the herd...
Take a look at all of the usernames on FF, then calculate how many posters around 1500 posts are still here... about 5%?
Take a look at all of the usernames on FF, then calculate how many posters around 1500 posts are still here... about 5%?
Mr. Trend
- #11,672
- Jul 14, 2008 3:57pm Jul 14, 2008 3:57pm
- | Joined Jul 2008 | Status: Trader | 1,836 Posts
is there anyone left on this thread interested in discussing charts and set-ups with us newcomers??? 
i found a double PB on the eurgbp which might give us something to talk about. after all, the thread is called "james16 chart thread" ...
i've attached my chart for the EURGBP which shows that a double PB is likely to form by the close of the day. do swings at 1, 2, & 3 constitute mbq's theory of "traffic?" (if so, does it negate this as a swing high?) i couldn't find any fib confluence ... did i miss something? i'm still pretty rusty when it comes to spotting PPZ and how to factor it in. is the break of the TL by the PB play any role in deciding to place or pass on this trade? do all of these "if's' make this a "B" trade ... can this be played anyway, but very conservatively?
i'm hoping to get thoughts from all schools of thought out there (e.g., naked charters, ppz'ers, risk-takers, james16 purists, etc)
i found a double PB on the eurgbp which might give us something to talk about. after all, the thread is called "james16 chart thread" ... i've attached my chart for the EURGBP which shows that a double PB is likely to form by the close of the day. do swings at 1, 2, & 3 constitute mbq's theory of "traffic?" (if so, does it negate this as a swing high?) i couldn't find any fib confluence ... did i miss something? i'm still pretty rusty when it comes to spotting PPZ and how to factor it in. is the break of the TL by the PB play any role in deciding to place or pass on this trade? do all of these "if's' make this a "B" trade ... can this be played anyway, but very conservatively?
i'm hoping to get thoughts from all schools of thought out there (e.g., naked charters, ppz'ers, risk-takers, james16 purists, etc)
"Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see." Proverb
- #11,673
- Jul 14, 2008 4:10pm Jul 14, 2008 4:10pm
- Joined Jun 2006 | Status: Vivere! | 1,034 Posts
I'm nothing but lucky too. My brother must be unlucky, he is a teacher.
It works around me because I am lucky. Lucky enough to shut up an listen.
It works around me because I am lucky. Lucky enough to shut up an listen.
That is why I tell people I am just lucky, I do not try to point out why it works anymore, I did for the 1st few years now I just say it's luck. Same with my brother, he plays poker for a living and for the past 11 years he's just been really lucky
I'm pretty much done with all this ...
- #11,675
- Jul 14, 2008 4:38pm Jul 14, 2008 4:38pm
- | Joined Feb 2007 | Status: POP FIAT FASCISM | 1,106 Posts
is there anyone left on this thread interested in discussing charts and set-ups with us newcomers???
i've attached my chart for the EURGBP which shows that a double PB is likely to form by the close of the day. do swings at 1, 2, & 3 constitute mbq's theory of "traffic?" (if so, does it negate this as a swing high?) i couldn't find any fib confluence ... did i miss something? i'm still pretty rusty when it comes to spotting PPZ and how to factor it in. is the break of the TL by the PB play any role in deciding to place or pass on this trade? do all of these "if's' make this a "B" trade ... can this be played anyway, but very conservatively?
i'm hoping to get thoughts from all schools of thought out there (e.g., naked charters, ppz'ers, risk-takers, james16 purists, etc)
- #11,676
- Jul 14, 2008 5:25pm Jul 14, 2008 5:25pm
is there anyone left on this thread interested in discussing charts and set-ups with us newcomers???
i've attached my chart for the EURGBP which shows that a double PB is likely to form by the close of the day. do swings at 1, 2, & 3 constitute mbq's theory of "traffic?" (if so, does it negate this as a swing high?) i couldn't find any fib confluence ... did i miss something? i'm still pretty rusty when it comes to spotting PPZ and how to factor it in. is the break of the TL by the PB play any role in deciding to place or pass on this trade? do all of these "if's' make this a "B" trade ... can this be played anyway, but very conservatively?
i'm hoping to get thoughts from all schools of thought out there (e.g., naked charters, ppz'ers, risk-takers, james16 purists, etc)
i think that the market is 2 choppy(2 much traffic in there) i am staying out
i am aslo observing the same choppiness on many other markets this week start
stay out IF u want my opinion BUt heY ask ARound for other opinions
- #11,678
- Jul 15, 2008 1:18am Jul 15, 2008 1:18am
- | Joined Jul 2008 | Status: Trader | 1,836 Posts
"Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see." Proverb
- #11,679
- Jul 15, 2008 2:21am Jul 15, 2008 2:21am
Hi Jim,
as expected.
" Lets get back to what has always made this thread special, traders helping traders in a decent and kind fashion." <--.Huge thx.
as expected. " Lets get back to what has always made this thread special, traders helping traders in a decent and kind fashion." <--
.Huge thx.Everyone has a right to thier opinion but if anyone thinks they can come in and disrupt this thread would be well advised to think otherwise. I havnt been at forex factory since virtually day one and not have friends in high places.
I would never try to stop free speech and that includes anyone that wanted to say point blank this whole thread is garbage. That is there right but that is not the point of my post.
Intentional disruption can be taken care of with one email and that person wont be posting anywhere at forex factory. Im not pointing fingers at anyone so please no hurt feelings or defensive reactions to this post, im just stating how i feel and how this thread will be moderated.
I can delete any post in this thread i want at anytime and the fact i have never used that ability even once should state clearly im not trying to stop anyones thoughts positive or negative.
Lets get back to what has always made this thread special, traders helping traders in a decent and kind fashion.
Jim
- #11,680
- Jul 15, 2008 2:50am Jul 15, 2008 2:50am
- Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Charts + PA > * | 3,251 Posts
You tell me this is anything less than awesome once you "get it".
Again there were no surprises here.
1
We pin on top of the broken=>retested descending trendline and right on top of one of our lower support areas. After the pin, which wasn't that super-perfect, we even get an IB to complement it, showing us that price, when asked where it wants to go, said "I'm thinking about it!"
2
We get another IB(this time on IBFX) after a bullish bar already reveals some of price's intentions(plus the itty-bitty higher lows, higher highs)
3
We hit our clearly visible and marked target at around 1.9950, where many(including me) take profit
4
We know nothing ever likes to go all at once, so once price bounces off the top of an area.
Where can it likely go again to check where it's allowed to go?
To the bottom of the area we just hammered out with our Pin. Indeed, this is the classic "retrace bus" phenomenon once more. We also closed as a weekly PB(despite being at one heck of an odd place) just before this retrace.
Conclusion
The prior bar highs and retrace bus area holds, the weekly pin retraces to about eye level and we get kicked back up. We manage new highs and, if we close and establish a base up here, now suddenly have 300+ new pips of potential.
This is trading with price action.
Again there were no surprises here.
1
We pin on top of the broken=>retested descending trendline and right on top of one of our lower support areas. After the pin, which wasn't that super-perfect, we even get an IB to complement it, showing us that price, when asked where it wants to go, said "I'm thinking about it!"
2
We get another IB(this time on IBFX) after a bullish bar already reveals some of price's intentions(plus the itty-bitty higher lows, higher highs)
3
We hit our clearly visible and marked target at around 1.9950, where many(including me) take profit
4
We know nothing ever likes to go all at once, so once price bounces off the top of an area.
Where can it likely go again to check where it's allowed to go?
To the bottom of the area we just hammered out with our Pin. Indeed, this is the classic "retrace bus" phenomenon once more. We also closed as a weekly PB(despite being at one heck of an odd place) just before this retrace.
Conclusion
The prior bar highs and retrace bus area holds, the weekly pin retraces to about eye level and we get kicked back up. We manage new highs and, if we close and establish a base up here, now suddenly have 300+ new pips of potential.
This is trading with price action.
Trust price. Know yourself.