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  • #15,141
  • Jul 4, 2008 2:47am Jul 4, 2008 2:47am
Quoting manfx
a,kum....salam sejathtera....sham...boleh kah ruangan forum ini kita gunakan bahasa melayu....siapa lagi nak martabat bahasa kita?.....biar omputih tgk forum kita pun kena belajar bahasa melayu.....sekadar candangan.....
We've discussed about this. This is an International Forum. No dot com dot my. Respect others as we also got active members from Italy, Canada, USA, UK, Australia, Singapore, Brunei, Indonesia, Middle East, Africa etc.

There are already available Forex Forum in Malay Language around. This one is in English. It's good to practice our second language in here as well. Nothing to lose. International Language knowledge is important. After all... all WORLD ECONOMICS Fundamental and NEWS are easily available in ENGLISH. How can we understand the NEWS if we don't understand all the economic jargon and terms they use.

In addition to that... If we use Malay Language... this Thread will be moved by moderator into the Member Lounge section. Not in Forex Discussion section. New members or 1st timer to FF will not noticing our existence.

I hope this is clear enough.

P/s: How do you call STAGFLATION in Malay Language?
  • #15,142
  • Jul 4, 2008 3:12am Jul 4, 2008 3:12am
Quoting Malaysia
We've discussed about this. This is an International Forum. No dot com dot my. Respect others as we also got active members from Italy, Canada, USA, UK, Australia, Singapore, Brunei, Indonesia, Middle East, Africa etc.

There are already available Forex Forum in Malay Language around. This one is in English. It's good to practice our second language in here as well. Nothing to lose. International Language knowledge is important. After all... all WORLD ECONOMICS Fundamental and NEWS are easily available in ENGLISH. How can we understand the NEWS if we don't understand all the economic jargon and terms they use.

In addition to that... If we use Malay Language... this Thread will be moved by moderator into the Member Lounge section. Not in Forex Discussion section. New members or 1st timer to FF will not noticing our existence.

I hope this is clear enough.

P/s: How do you call STAGFLATION in Malay Language?

stagflation = stagflasi
inflation = inflasi
radiation = radiasi

hahahaha... juz kidding anyway I agree with Sham. there are already a lot of Forex forum in Bahasa Malaysia. one of them is CariGold (purely by MALAYsian traders only). go check it out if u haven't okay
  • #15,143
  • Jul 4, 2008 3:22am Jul 4, 2008 3:22am
Quoting Jackhalid
stagflation = stagflasi
inflation = inflasi
radiation = radiasi

hahahaha... juz kidding anyway I agree with Sham. there are already a lot of Forex forum in Bahasa Malaysia. one of them is CariGold (purely by MALAYsian traders only). go check it out if u haven't okay
And ...

nation = nasi !

This is exactly what my BM teacher said about danger of direct translation...
  • #15,144
  • Jul 4, 2008 3:31am Jul 4, 2008 3:31am
I know I am in trouble now. Not everyday profit. This could be my losing day

I know that might be a stupid move... but I did not go against the MAIN TREND. As long as my SL still intact which is below yesterday LOW and below the STRONG SUPPORT TL. I still got the chance to have the green pips. Target will be around 50% to 61.8% Fibbo retracement... provided that the bull strong enough to penetrate the Daily Pivot. If not... happy enough to take out profit manually at the daily pivot. All about PA now.

If the bear break the support... that will hit my SL. Then I'll might go SHORT... depending on the time though. I wanna call off the day early today. There's always Next Week.
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  • #15,145
  • Jul 4, 2008 3:40am Jul 4, 2008 3:40am
Quoting Chang
And ...

nation = nasi !

This is exactly what my BM teacher said about danger of direct translation...
And lots of true meaning and information of the words loss in translation. Language is about Communication. If what been conveyed 100% received and understand... then that is a perfect efficiency communication.

The power of Communication... inefficiency or wrong interpretation can cause catastrophic event... can even cause death.
  • #15,146
  • Jul 4, 2008 4:13am Jul 4, 2008 4:13am
Strong BEAR on CABLE... breaking support lines.
  • #15,147
  • Jul 4, 2008 4:25am Jul 4, 2008 4:25am
Quoting Malaysia
Strong BEAR on CABLE... breaking support lines.
Not that easy... the Bull quickly retaliate. Hard huh... with no fundamental around to DRIVE the market... when price reach certain Support or Resistance... heavy fight will occur between BULL and BEAR.

Half wanting to break it... another half wanting a retracement. ... and then suddenly... BIG PLAYERS do something big... kaboommm.... breaking the line... then the rest get panic... reflective action... kebbaaabbboommmmmm.... FREE FALL.

It can be the other way round... just right after it breaking the line... this BIG PLAYERS go LONG creating a REVERSAL CS on the SUPPORT Line.... the rest of the mass buy it... then Zoooommmmmmm.... rocketing up.

Funny how things work in this kind of environment. Some people said... FOREX can't be manipulated. Some people said it's heavily manipulated. Believe whatever you wanna believe. In the end of the day... just make sure making profit more than loss. That's what matters.

p/s: Anyone here having 100% accuracy or know someone with 100% accuracy in trading?
  • #15,148
  • Jul 4, 2008 4:27am Jul 4, 2008 4:27am
dear Shamx

how do you see FIBER is in UPTREND .. since from IND i see it just switch now to DOWN T. D1 and H4 showed strong DT .. it might goes beyond 300pis from now and within next weeks..

just my 2 cents ... beginners ..
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  • #15,149
  • Jul 4, 2008 4:38am Jul 4, 2008 4:38am
Quoting anazri
dear Shamx

how do you see FIBER is in UPTREND .. since from IND i see it just switch now to DOWN T. D1 and H4 showed strong DT .. it might goes beyond 300pis from now and within next weeks..

just my 2 cents ... beginners ..
Monthly ... Weekly ... Daily ... charts still UPTREND. However, on H4 it starts to break that Uptrend Channel. See the yellow channel I drawn earlier.

How come I don't see downtrend established yet on H4? Yes... I see the big fall.... but TREND... not yet. I could be wrong in this. Anyone else with different opinion?
  • #15,150
  • Jul 4, 2008 4:51am Jul 4, 2008 4:51am
In the absence of everything else... this might have the greatest impact to the market psychology now. Driving force is coming. Tighten your seatbelt!!!

The rule of equation or any system... when VARIABLES changed... consequence/result will be changed.

6:00pm EUR http://www.forexfactory.com/images/m...act_medium.gif German Factory Orders m/m

T.A.Y.O.R.
  • #15,151
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:03am Jul 4, 2008 5:03am
6:00pm EUR http://www.forexfactory.com/images/m...act_medium.gif German Factory Orders m/m -0.9% 0.8% -1.8%

Mixed reaction... not as good as expected but better than the last data Come back to square one.
  • #15,152
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:03am Jul 4, 2008 5:03am
Bro sham, please count me in if u're in penang ald send u an email, cant wait to c u in penang
  • #15,153
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:19am Jul 4, 2008 5:19am
just draw line 1(previous top price with zig zag),line 2 bottom price,line3 daily lower price...
price in circle as drawn pic are comfirmation bear or bull...
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  • #15,154
  • Edited 5:39am Jul 4, 2008 5:26am | Edited 5:39am
Quoting Malaysia
You forget the COST factor. Arab's Country get the oil from below the SAND. We get the oil from deep sea bed. Calculate the cost mate.

Not to forget... the process of searching for OIL reserve under the SEA BED gonna need a special vessel for it. I forgot what it's call. That one... we don't own it. Petronas don't have it. We have to rent it or tender the project to other company to find the Oil Reserve under the sea bed... which is... the outcome not certain. It can take months and years to find it. How much is the cost? Compare that with the cost of searching oil under the desert?

Plus... Transportation cost of bringing back those OIL from the middle of the ocean to the main land. Plus special maintenance needed with the OIL RIG in the middle of the SALTY ocean (where corrosion easily take place)... Plus all the speciality man power cost needed to work on that hazardous environment. Not to talk about other kind of cost incurred. The PROFIT MARGIN is not that high as you think.

Petronas already declared that the overall profit is not mainly from the OIL sales... but from other kind of businesses. Petronas don't just sell OIL... they do other things as well.

Part of my mission to educate my peers so that they are not so IGNORANCE and just believe whatever politician said. Don't get me wrong... I am not siding on any side. I am neutral in politic. Just when it comes to someone is trying to BS around and inserting wrong information to the citizens just because wanna gain popularity... then I'll gone mad. Do your own research before you digest 100% whatever they said. Know the reality... not fantasy. Find the hard fact... not empty talk. How I hate politician!!! Can they talk the truth all they way?

 The mechanism for setting retail prices of petroleum products has been in effect since 1983. In brief, the retail prices of petrol, diesel and LPG are set as follows:
 Petroleum Products Cost + Operational Costs + Margin for Distributors of Petroleum Products + Commission for Owners of Petrol Stations + Sales Tax - Subsidies = Retail Price.
 The price mechanism is linked to international market prices. The actual product price is determined after taking into consideration prevailing international prices, operating costs such as distribution and marketing costs and sales taxes.
In Malaysia, fuel is sold much cheaper than other countries because the Government provides subsidies and sales tax exemptions. For example, the retail price of RON97 petrol on 31 July 2005 is as follows:
 Petroleum Products Retail Prices (sen per litre) This are my study from past price. Now everything has been hike up.

 Country

Petrol (RON 97)
RM / Liter
Petrol (RON 92)
RM / Liter
Diesel
RM/ Liter
LPG
RM / Liter
Malaysia
1.92
1.88
1.58
1.75
Thailand
2.52
2.45
2.28
1.65
Philipinnes
2.21
2.20
1.95
4.90
Singapore
4.15
3.89
2.39
5.32
Brunei
1.22
1.19
0.71
1.40
Indonesia
2.30
2.20
1.68
1.89
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  • #15,155
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:26am Jul 4, 2008 5:26am
actually i,m waiting for u sham,when u come in penang?...
my friends also...actually..we have recruited forex geng in bandar perda,seberang perai...i hope u will.
  • #15,156
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:37am Jul 4, 2008 5:37am
Make a wild guess... which one will gain most profit... or having the highest profit margin?

Every production... comes with cost. Nett profit will be realised after all cost incurred.


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  • #15,157
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:43am Jul 4, 2008 5:43am
[quote=Malaysia;2091894]Make a wild guess... which one will gain most profit... or having the highest profit margin?

Every production... comes with cost. Nett profit will be realised after all cost incurred.



waw...that shit is sinking.. true, cost incurred is more expensive if get oil in sea level.
  • #15,158
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:45am Jul 4, 2008 5:45am
Quoting manfx
actually i,m waiting for u sham,when u come in penang?...
my friends also...actually..we have recruited forex geng in bandar perda,seberang perai...i hope u will.
Patience my friend... I'll be there when the time come. Good for you guys of having a group of traders I've been promoting traders to form a group all this while. It's like hunting in pact or hunting alone. No right or wrong.. both can get their prey... but things is more fun with pact. Trading can be a lonely job... get a life!!!
  • #15,159
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:53am Jul 4, 2008 5:53am
i,m speechless......huuuhuuuu.........
  • #15,160
  • Jul 4, 2008 5:57am Jul 4, 2008 5:57am
Ok guys... that's it from me for this week... got to get ready for my travel to PAHANG. Revising all my SL and TP. I just gonna let those floating position float. Hopefully TP reached before the session close this week.

Good Luck... Good Trade

p/s: Please do continue discussion without me.

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