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  • #361
  • Feb 1, 2007 8:23am Feb 1, 2007 8:23am
Thanks for clearing this up. I think alot of people were waiting for the actual touch of the Bat line and letting passbys of the line go without a trade.
  • #362
  • Feb 1, 2007 2:22pm Feb 1, 2007 2:22pm
Hi TA:

Can you explain where the 5356 is coming from in the calculations below?


Quoting TeamAphid
Yes, you are interpreting correctly, though our spread is 3 pips. That's why we initiate the trade #1 with two lots to improve end results and statistics, and it helped a lot since trade #1 itself is already profitable (+3372 pips profit vs. (448 * 3) -1344 pips for spread). So end result for us is 5356 + 3372 - 1344 = +7384 pips including spread. And this improves statistical figures.
Michael fxgorilla
  • #363
  • Feb 1, 2007 5:23pm Feb 1, 2007 5:23pm
Please check excel spreadsheet showing backtest results. It is total gain in 2006 by trading 4 lots.


Quoting fxgorilla
Hi TA:

Can you explain where the 5356 is coming from in the calculations below?
  • #364
  • Edited 9:00am Feb 2, 2007 8:19am | Edited 9:00am
Whew! OK, so right now after NFP I'm GBPUSD long from 9728 with 2 lots and current stop at 9632, 10 below swing at 9642. Since there's no blue bat line below, does 9632 also become the reversal point to go short?
Michael fxgorilla
  • #365
  • Feb 2, 2007 8:30am Feb 2, 2007 8:30am
Just had first EURAUD order triggered - Short @ 6803
Michael fxgorilla
  • #366
  • Feb 2, 2007 9:04am Feb 2, 2007 9:04am
OK, so the blue bat line has just appeared below the horizon @ 9546, which would work out to something like a near 175 pip stop from long entry @ 9728. Where are you placing your SAR?

Quoting fxgorilla
Whew! OK, so right now after NFP I'm GBPUSD long from 9728 with 2 lots and current stop at 9632, 10 below swing at 9642. Since there's no blue bat line below, does 9632 also become the reversal point to go short?
Michael fxgorilla
  • #367
  • Feb 3, 2007 8:42am Feb 3, 2007 8:42am
Quoting TeamAphid
Thank you for sharing your ideas to improve BAT, we appreciate that.

Have you done a proper backtest for 2006 by using these rules? If yes, can you please also share your backtest results with us so that we can compare with original test results?

ok, i'll be using the H1 chart to do so
  • #368
  • Feb 3, 2007 7:59pm Feb 3, 2007 7:59pm
I want to make an EA for this indicator, is it possible to get the original programmer in this room?
  • #369
  • Feb 3, 2007 9:33pm Feb 3, 2007 9:33pm
Quoting don perry
I want to make an EA for this indicator, is it possible to get the original programmer in this room?
Fukinagashi has already made an EA...see here
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=14073
  • #370
  • Feb 4, 2007 3:10am Feb 4, 2007 3:10am
If recent swing low/high is much higher/lower than BAT lines, then stop loss is swing low - 10 / high + 10, not the BAT line. In your case, swing low is @ 9642 (2/2/2007 09:00 bar (alpari)), therefore stoploss will be @ 9632, which is 96 pips away from entry, not 175 pips. For SAR, you need to wait for price to hit blue BAT line, not the swing low - 10.


Quoting fxgorilla
OK, so the blue bat line has just appeared below the horizon @ 9546, which would work out to something like a near 175 pip stop from long entry @ 9728. Where are you placing your SAR?
  • #371
  • Feb 4, 2007 8:49am Feb 4, 2007 8:49am
Quoting Antra
Fukinagashi has already made an EA...see here
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=14073
yes, but he does not allow it to be expanded. We want mq4
  • #372
  • Feb 4, 2007 8:52am Feb 4, 2007 8:52am
Quoting don perry
yes, but he does not allow it to be expanded. We want mq4
He will not provide the source to any of his programs since he dislike his code being exploited for profitability by those selling systems rying to rip us off.
  • #373
  • Feb 4, 2007 8:58am Feb 4, 2007 8:58am
Ok fine, i'll just do it from scratch then. i already have the indicator and i have spotted a few logical errors in his EA that i wont discuss here. Bye
  • #374
  • Feb 4, 2007 9:16am Feb 4, 2007 9:16am
Quoting don perry
Ok fine, i'll just do it from scratch then. i already have the indicator and i have spotted a few logical errors in his EA that i wont discuss here. Bye
You can ask him to fix whatever you see as in error. I do know he will accomodate whatever changes you recommend.
  • #375
  • Feb 4, 2007 6:38pm Feb 4, 2007 6:38pm
I think an open source version of the BAT EA is a great idea. I looked at the one Fukinagashi did but it's impossible to do true "due diligence" without being able to see the source. Also frustrating is the inability to mod the EA to your own personal preference without Fukinagashi's help.

I appreciate the work Fukinagashi has done but there is no way I would trust my hard earned money to an EA that I didn't understand the full implications of. I understand Fukinagashi's concerns about code theft but since you can hire russian firms to decompile ex4's for cheap I think it's an undefeatable problem is someone is keen.

Brian
  • #376
  • Edited 1:43pm Feb 5, 2007 2:24am | Edited 1:43pm
Hi

All this talk about an EA is busy taking the focus away from the BAT and the intended purpose of this thread. I am the programmer of the team and will NOT get involved in writing any EA's for it in the near future. If anybody else wants to do it feel free, but please do so in another thread.

The reason for this post is to prevent a perfectly good thread from ending up as a testing ground or an EA tutorial. So far the system rules are available; the indicator is there, as well as a set of test data going back more than a year. It should be enough information to write and test an EA. But like I've requested, please do so on another thread.

Team Aphid


Quoting don perry
I want to make an EA for this indicator, is it possible to get the original programmer in this room?
  • #377
  • Feb 5, 2007 4:15am Feb 5, 2007 4:15am
Hello everybody, usualy sorry for my english and worm thankfull to team Aphid for the sistem

Someone have the same signal I have on £$ (short from around 1.9616 with TP around 1.956) and £¥ (short from 237.25 and TP around 237.45) ????

Just to be sure that my settings are right?

About improvement and suggestion for you , dear Team, sorry but I'm so small trader that I can be just a son of aphid now
later, who knows???

Laoma
  • #378
  • Feb 5, 2007 6:19am Feb 5, 2007 6:19am
Great work & thanks for sharing.

Have you considered a time of day filter? It seems that the trades taken between 11pm & 6am have a poorer result than those in the other sessions.
  • #379
  • Feb 5, 2007 7:04am Feb 5, 2007 7:04am
Hi Laoma,

Your short levels are correct, but how did you find TPs since there is no TP in original BAT system (for #1 trades). We use red BAT line to take profit for short trades.


Quoting Laoma
Hello everybody, usualy sorry for my english and worm thankfull to team Aphid for the sistem

Someone have the same signal I have on £$ (short from around 1.9616 with TP around 1.956) and £¥ (short from 237.25 and TP around 237.45) ????

Just to be sure that my settings are right?

About improvement and suggestion for you , dear Team, sorry but I'm so small trader that I can be just a son of aphid now
later, who knows???

Laoma
  • #380
  • Feb 5, 2007 7:09am Feb 5, 2007 7:09am
No, we haven't considered that kind of filter, but we will test it for a couple of months and see if it filters profitable trades as well, especially big ones. By the way, do you mean Alpari server time or EST or else?


Quoting charlies
Great work & thanks for sharing.

Have you considered a time of day filter? It seems that the trades taken between 11pm & 6am have a poorer result than those in the other sessions.
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