VHands Trading Simulator

Rangebound,

I am interested in using multiple time frames with vhands. Thanks HH

Me too......for sure.

Thanks,

Seattlerust

Everyone, you are in for a treat!

Rangebound will be sharing with us his technique that takes vHands to a whole new level - multiple time frames. I had no idea it could be done.

Rangebound, I don't know how you figured all that stuff out, but I'm glad you did, and now I'm even more happy that I started this thread!

Thanks!

Oh, yes please. That would be such an enhancement.

Yes!
Didn't know it was possible. Been trying workarounds, eg laptop & pc running vhands side by side with no luck. You've made my day , Thanks.

Rangebound,
Yes I am interested in Vhands MTF - I find single time frame is a real limitation.
Ian

I'm curious about the multiple timeframes but I need help getting Vhands working again. If anyone has any input it would be greatly appreciated! I keep getting a no history data error. I've downloaded history from the history center. Tried it on my live account and on a practice account. Cannot get it to work. It errors before it puts any data on the chart then the chart says "Waiting for Update"

Rangebound, thank you so much for all the work you put into this.

For my convenience, I have copied the three posts into a document and converted it to .pdf format. The file is attached so everybody can have a copy to keep somewhere convenient.

Your work is going to transform my practise trading. Cheers.

Rangebound

appreciate the time and effort for you post . I'm sure it will help myself and many others, a big thanks.

Rangebound,
Thank you, this will make vhands much more useable. I appreciate your efforts.

Ian

Hi Rangebound,
Thanks for your effort, I think it's very usefull.
Can u pls send a screen capture so I can imagine how it will be.
I haven't success to do MTF in vhands.

thx

Ics

Im not sure a screen shot is really going to be of any use to you.
It looks just like any other bunch of chart windows.

It would be more helpful if you described what steps you have achieved. So to nudge you in the right direction :

1) Have you had Vhands running in its original single TF state ?

2) Did you download the history data ?
You can check by double clicking 'GBPUSD' then the '1 minute' items in the "History center" window and reading the number of records displayed at the top of the window. What does it say?

3) Did you install the "period_converter_opt.mql", and the modified "Vhandstrade.mql" files to the correct folders ?
You can check this by trying to add a new indicator to a chart. You should see the period_converter_opt indicator in the custom indicators list.
Start Vhandstrade and then press F3 : Is the 'vhandspause' variable in the global variables window?

4) Have you followed all the steps detailed in the tutorial?

Hi everyone,

i hope you don't mind me referencing your thread from the Scalping the Eur/Usd effectively. thread. Some of us have been desperately looking for a way to Test with a syncronous 1M and 5M chart, and it looks like we might have found it.

ExpatXXX is doing a hell of a job over there teaching us the system, but in our case it seams practice is really what makes perfect.

Id like to thank first hand blueruby and rangebound for making this stuff available at FF.

Best Regards,

SC

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The quote bellow was posted at the Scalping the Eur/Usd effectively. thread.

Thank you so much Rangebound. What a pleasure this is going to be for using vhands.

HH

how modify the initial equity number.
regards

Perhaps it is only me... but I am not able to open this pdf. Could you pls repost.

Thanks

Here it is.

I just downloaded it from my original post and it opened ok. I suggest you make sure you have the latest Acrobat Reader installed on your machine.

Alternatively, visit http://openoffice.org-suite.com and download the free, open-source Open Office, a free and equally good alternative to Microsoft Office. I copied the web pages into the word processor then saved it in .pdf format, so you can pm me for a copy of the doc if you want. I can't post it here as it ha an unrecognised file type.

as soon as i add the time conversion indicator all hell breaks loose....idle here idle there...cant touch vhands without the whole program just freezing up.....mind you my machine is old....p4 1g ram ....but simple old metatrader shouldn't cause this much trouble........any1 else have this issue or am i a lone ranger on this oone

real big bummer for me as im not ussually this technologicly dense...........haaaaalp

Your PC P4 1Gb ram should be more than ample.

Metatrader seems to be pretty inefficient when it comes to disk access,
and all PCs no matter how old have one large bottle neck which is the hard disk. Things get really bad when your disk is badly fragmented. Unfortunately MT4 helps achieve this very quickly by writing an excesive number of small (and large) log files, and by continually writing small packets of data to disk for each chart and time frame. This is compounded also when using the period converter indicator, however the App shouldnt be unusable so ....

First you must accept things are going to be a tad slower than normal, owing to the amount of data you are using. As a guideline my AMD takes around 10 seconds to start Vhands for the supplied example, and between 10 and 20 seconds to skip past 6 months of back data.
If you are getting poorer performance than this and if your metatrader hangs for long periods (> 45 seconds ) then try some of the following :


1) As a very basic starting point Id advise you :

1. Only have the Vhandstrade MT4 application open and no other App.
2. Try to refrain from moving or resizing the Vhands Window without first pausing the tester.
3. Only have the chart windos open that are required for Vhands testing IE no live chart windows.
4. Make sure you have > 1 Gb free disk space (preferrably > 5 Gb)
5. Delete all files in the "metatrader4\Logs" folder
6. Delete all files in the folder "metatrader4\tester\logs"
7. If you have downloaded history data for many different pairs at the one minue level then consider cut/pasting those history files out to a temporary folder and only have the history data for the pair you want to test 'in this session' available to MT4. This can be done by finding files such as GBPUSD1.hst

If none of the above help then continue on.

2) if you only have a single hard disk with one partition on it (IE a C: drive only) then this is probably fragmented to hell and back. (Or is full up) I would NOT advise anyone to ever defrag a system drive as it can be an extremely lengthy process (> 3 days in some cases) and is prone to causing serious system problems if it fails or is aborted)

 

1. check you have > 5 Gb free space if not then do some house keeping:
2. empty your recycle bin(s)
3. remove something you dont use.
4. use internet explorer/ firefox to delete all temporary and history files
5. add a new (second) hard disk.

Once you have > 5Gb free space make sure your virtual memory settings are good. (details for windows XP)

 

1. open Start --> Settings --> Control panel
2. If not already enabled click "switch to classic view"
3. Find and open the "system" icon
4. Click advanced tab
5. click the settings button for "performance"
6. click advanced tab
7. click change button in the virtual memnory section
8. if your page file size is less than 1024 Mb then select the "custom size" options and enter 1100 in the initial size box and 1600 in the maximum size box
9. Click the set button
10. click Ok to all pop up windows
11. restart windows.

You can semi defrag your Vhands copy of Mt4 by doing the following

 

1. Copy your MT4 folder and paste it as described in the original tutorial
2. Delete the original MT4 folder (the one you just copied)
3. Rename the new folder from "Copy of " ... to the same as it was originally

Normally this will help because all the fragmented data files (when copied) will be written in one single block. This may not be the case on hard disks where you have a limited amount of free space and where the disk is fragemented.


You can help yourself inordinately if you have more than one hard disk or logical drive by simply copying your MT4 (vhands copy) to a hard drive other than your system (C drive. MT4 doesnt care where it lives so if you have this option then use it. If you only have a single Hard disk but have > 5GB of space on it Id advise you consider getting an application (freeware/ shareware or otherware) that will allow you to create a new partition on your hard disk, without destorying the data aldreay on he disk. (partition magic is a good example) A new partition or "logical drive" need only be 1 Gb (or even less) in size to house your MT4 App yet it will enable you to completely defrag your MT4 application extremely easily. It will also stop MT4 fragmenting your system drive even further.

Try these and if report back either success or failure.
It may be interesting for other users to know which step(s) provided the most benefit on your system.
If none works effectively I'll suggest some more tips. - However please advise the following :

operating system
Free disk space
How many physical hard drives
How many logical hard drives (partitions)
MT4 Memory usage :

1. Open task manager and find out how much memory "terminal.exe" is using running Vhands. (This can be found on the processes tab)

post a list of the files in your "mt4\history\*your broker*\" folder
get the properties of the history folder and post the disk space it consumes

hello everyone,
i like this vhands thingy.i just want to ask when offline can use it or not? o need to be constantly connected to broker?
i havent downloaded all those required files yet.thanks.