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  • #4,021
  • May 9, 2008 12:41pm May 9, 2008 12:41pm
Just as I predicted. More cryptic "kung-fu" "jedi master" nonsense but no answers.

"Read the threeeaaaddd grasshopper..."

"Do the workkkkk young apprentice..."

"Trust in the forrrcce Luke..."

"We're helping the chilllldrennnn...."



Same tired worn out old smokescreens that any con artist hides behind.

The only thing this thread accomplished was to create the cult of Skunnytology, complete with a new holy trinity: The Fib, The Thread, and The Holy Grail.

  • #4,022
  • May 9, 2008 12:43pm May 9, 2008 12:43pm
Quoting funske
Isn't this exactly what we want to know here ?

If someone could answer this WHY of you with like a 90 procent or so chance to hit to the pip then I would call this thread the best thread ever.

But nobody knows. Why ? Because there isn't a setup which garantees your target of 1.38 to be hit. If this setup exists WHY NOBODY MENTIONED THAT HOLY SETUP ?

Believe me you can watch the charts until your eyes fall of your head but it isn't there. If it would exist everybody would trade that setup. There isn't something like a hidden secret in trading.

But if you find it, do not hesitate to let us know
Funske,

I have watched the charts until my eyes fall out of my head as you put it. I don't understand what part of "Skunny is not going to hand it to you" you didn't understand? If you came to this thread for an easy way out, well than I guess your right. For the rest of us that have studied it we have found success. Do you really think that someone that has put this much time and energy is just going to hand this over to you? Check the following post:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=3585
I don't think so. To answer a final question, 90% is on the low side

I wish you the best,

Grk

P.S. I just let you know
  • #4,023
  • May 9, 2008 12:50pm May 9, 2008 12:50pm
  •  itguy
  • | Joined Sep 2006 | Status: 110..220....Whatever it takes | 39 Posts
Quoting capitalist88
Just as I predicted. More cryptic "kung-fu" "jedi master" nonsense but no answers.

"Read the threeeaaaddd grasshopper..."

"Do the workkkkk young apprentice..."

"Trust in the forrrcce Luke..."

"We're helping the chilllldrennnn...."



Same tired worn out old smokescreens that any con artist hides behind.

The only thing this thread accomplished was to create the cult of Skunnytology, complete with a new holy trinity: The Fib, The Thread, and The Holy Grail.

Just as I predicted, more jackasses and negativity. What a loser........

Say, I have an idea capitalist, since you have all the answers, why not start your own thread and enlighten us?????
  • #4,024
  • May 9, 2008 12:58pm May 9, 2008 12:58pm
Quoting capitalist88
Just as I predicted. More cryptic "kung-fu" "jedi master" nonsense but no answers.

"Read the threeeaaaddd grasshopper..."

"Do the workkkkk young apprentice..."

"Trust in the forrrcce Luke..."

"We're helping the chilllldrennnn...."



Same tired worn out old smokescreens that any con artist hides behind.

The only thing this thread accomplished was to create the cult of Skunnytology, complete with a new holy trinity: The Fib, The Thread, and The Holy Grail.

capitalist88,

I see you are still in this thread posting. Perhaps you lurk hoping to find whatever it is you are looking for? Let me be the first to say you won't. Also, you coming in here ridiculing us and using the phrase "We're helping the chilllldrennnn...." is insulting. You do not know or have any knowledge what we are doing, and mocking this thread with your half brain remarks is not appreciated. If you can't understand the methodology than I suggest you stay away from this thread or if you can't contribute in a positive manner. Just because you can't see what it is doesn't mean others can't. There are people here who have not joined the site and have taken what Skunny has given, as you say "cryptic" and done very well. You just refuse to believe it because you can't see it. Truly shameful. I'm done.

Grk
  • #4,025
  • May 9, 2008 1:02pm May 9, 2008 1:02pm
Quoting itguy
Just as I predicted, more jackasses and negativity. What a loser........

Say, I have an idea capitalist, since you have all the answers, why not start your own thread and enlighten us?????
Good idea Itty,

Maybe he can enlighten us on his trading style and hand it over just as he wants us to do for him.

Grk
  • #4,026
  • May 9, 2008 1:03pm May 9, 2008 1:03pm
Quoting capitalist88
Just as I predicted. More cryptic "kung-fu" "jedi master" nonsense but no answers.

"Read the threeeaaaddd grasshopper..."

"Do the workkkkk young apprentice..."

"Trust in the forrrcce Luke..."

"We're helping the chilllldrennnn...."



Same tired worn out old smokescreens that any con artist hides behind.

The only thing this thread accomplished was to create the cult of Skunnytology, complete with a new holy trinity: The Fib, The Thread, and The Holy Grail.



....I don't understand why you guys aren't getting this.

Its easy peezy to get started

Pick the fib tool....decide on a time frame your going to trade.

THEN - use the next Timeframe out to get the outer Fib areas, mark these on your time frame your going to use.

Use the Fib tool and mark the area your looking at....

Compare vs the outer Fib areas....areas of conjestion (where your Inner + outer are close or exact) are where you need to concentrate on.

There you go! I just handed it to you - now, can you make the effort to learn how to trade it?
  • #4,027
  • May 9, 2008 3:00pm May 9, 2008 3:00pm
Quoting almo;1993184<br /> THEN - [B
use the next Timeframe out to get the outer Fib areas[/b], mark these on your time frame your going to use.
...which could be anywhere depending on where the endpoints of the Fib are.

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Use the Fib tool and mark the area your looking at....

...which could be anywhere depending on (see above)

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Compare vs the outer Fib
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areas....areas of conjestion (where your Inner + outer are close or exact) are where you need to concentrate on.

Have I mentioned that these could be anywhere?

So in other words, take a wild guess at where price will turn.

That's not a method.
  • #4,028
  • May 9, 2008 3:27pm May 9, 2008 3:27pm
Quoting grkbear
Good idea Itty,

Maybe he can enlighten us on his trading style and hand it over just as he wants us to do for him.

Grk

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=161


Next time you might want to do a little research before posting. You can pull your foot out of your mouth now...

  • #4,029
  • May 9, 2008 3:30pm May 9, 2008 3:30pm
Quoting capitalist88
...which could be anywhere depending on where the endpoints of the Fib are.



...which could be anywhere depending on (see above)

[b]

Have I mentioned that these could be anywhere?

So in other words, take a wild guess at where price will turn.

That's not a method.

You only fib the last swing for both Time Frames. That is all your concerned with.




Again, read the entire thread for

1) How to properly set yourself up in multiple timeframes (you only need 2, but can use more)

2) how to walk the fib lines over once you reached your target.


Don't bother responding UNTIL you have at least tried it AND post a chart with your efforts.

THEN - I will critique what you are doing.
  • #4,030
  • May 9, 2008 4:17pm May 9, 2008 4:17pm
  •  itguy
  • | Joined Sep 2006 | Status: 110..220....Whatever it takes | 39 Posts
Quoting capitalist88
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=161


Next time you might want to do a little research before posting. You can pull your foot out of your mouth now...

Oh yea, nothing discretionary there, no wonder you are looking for something else to trade with, lol.

What does the 88 stand for in your nick? If it's the year you were born, that would explain your childish behavior and attitude. I'm more inclined to think that is your IQ, which would definitely explain your unintelligent posts, your lackluster sense of humor, your flagrant misuse of the English language, your inability to correctly quote someone in a thread, and the fact that you are a worthless piece of shit. Now go on, get back to your indicators and keep searching for handouts, judging by the method your using, you sorely need them.
  • #4,031
  • Edited 4:53pm May 9, 2008 4:41pm | Edited 4:53pm
Quoting itguy
Oh yea, nothing discretionary there, no wonder you are looking for something else to trade with, lol.

What does the 88 stand for in your nick? If it's the year you were born, that would explain your childish behavior and attitude. I'm more inclined to think that is your IQ, which would definitely explain your unintelligent posts, your lackluster sense of humor, your flagrant misuse of the English language, your inability to correctly quote someone in a thread, and the fact that you are a worthless piece of shit. Now go on, get back to your indicators and keep searching for handouts, judging by the method your using, you sorely need them.


This post says it all. I rest my case.

Oh, and by the way, it's "you're" not "your."
  • #4,032
  • Edited 5:36pm May 9, 2008 4:58pm | Edited 5:36pm
Quoting almo

Again, read the entire thread for...

In other words, you have no idea what the answer is either. That's because there is no answer to what the OP claimed he could do, neither in this thread nor anywhere else.
  • #4,033
  • May 9, 2008 7:25pm May 9, 2008 7:25pm
Gee, does anyone wonder why I don't visit FF much anymore? It's because it started looking too much like MoneyTec. Too many Jackholes.

Don't know what a Jackhole is?

Jackhole: Rhymes will Jackal, and smells just as bad.

Jackhole = JACKass + assHOLE

Defining characteristics of Jackholes: (Note: most jackholes only exhibit a few of these traits. It is a rare one that exhibits all of them (Thank God!)

Frequent use of the terms:

"share" which means, "spoon feed me as I don't want to work it out for myself"

"for free" as in "everything on the internet should be for free", or "successful traders should teach me what they are doing for free."

"Scam" is when money is charged for a product or service. The fact that said product or service is perfectly honest, fair and legitimate has no bearing here. The focus is on the money. If money is charged, it is automatically a scam.

"Scammer" a person (legitimacy irrelevant) who operates a "scam" as defined above. The are a scammer soley because they charge money.

"nothing new": How ridiculous. As if just being "new" makes something better. Oh to hell with the tried and true. If it's old (not new) it's no good.

"you can find it on the internet": Uh, no. Not everything is on the internet. At least, not "for free". (Oh, did I say a bad word? LOL) The use of this phrase usually occurs when the jackhole is slamming a "scammer" for daring to charge money.

Characteristic attitudes:

Complete and total failure to take responsibility for they're own success. Rather than spend time improving themselves and their trading, they'd rather expend the energy blaming, slandering and outright lying about others.

Enjoyment of confrontation. Jackholes enjoy being negative and destructive. They go out of their way to seek ways to stir up trouble. And once the fire is started and others come to try and squelch the jackholes bullshit, the only effect is firing the jackhole up even more. The internet name for this type of jackhole is a Troll.

Irrational, illogical and incabable of being reasoned with. It is a complete waste of time to engage these sub-humans in reasoned dialog. They are beyond reason. Reason is entirely foreign to they're nature.

Blameless: They never, under any circumstances will accept blame for anything. Anything that goes wrong in their lives is always the fault of someone else.

Hint: If you don't feed the jackholes, maybe, just maybe, they'll go away. But don't hold your breath.
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  • #4,034
  • May 9, 2008 7:27pm May 9, 2008 7:27pm
Now observe how the Jackholes will reveal themselves by attacking the post I just made.
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  • #4,035
  • May 9, 2008 7:37pm May 9, 2008 7:37pm
Quoting diallist
Now observe how the Jackholes will reveal themselves by attacking the post I just made.

Dial,

Thank you for posting before I got a chance to respond. Your post was perfect.....

That being said, I am bowing out of this discussion.

-Almo
  • #4,036
  • May 9, 2008 9:12pm May 9, 2008 9:12pm
Quoting diallist
Frequent use of the terms:
"share" which means, "spoon feed me as I don't want to work it out for myself"

"for free" as in "everything on the internet should be for free", or "successful traders should teach me what they are doing for free."

"Scam" is when money is charged for a product or service. The fact that said product or service is perfectly honest, fair and legitimate has no bearing here. The focus is on the money. If money is charged, it is automatically a scam.

"Scammer" a person (legitimacy irrelevant) who operates a "scam" as defined above. The are a scammer soley because they charge money.

Spot on Diallist! As a capitalist, I couldn't agree more. Someone who's constantly talking about "sharing" is often really talking about free handouts. And there's certainly nothing wrong with charging money for a valuable product or service. In fact, trading value for value is one of the highest moral activities in which humans can engage.

Simply charging money for something doesn't mean it's a scam. As you just pointed out, the relevant factor is the legitimacy of the product or service in question. So here is a brief list of what I generally look for in identifying a scam:

1. Promises which are too good to be true. A formula which turns water into gasoline, penis enlargement creams and the holy grail of FOREX are among these.

2. Claims to possess "the big secret." If a method could actually allow someone to constantly profit with large expectancy, it wouldn't remain a secret for long. The owner of the "secret" would either make enough money to buy the galaxy, or once discovered, everyone would start using the method which would eliminate its usefulness.

3. Instructions for success which are intentionally vague. The scammer refuses to be nailed down on the details and instead instructs the customer to do more research, work, study or whatever. There is a constant mantra such as "It's all in Dianetics, you just haven't reached clear yet," or "the answers are in this or that holy book if you just believe," or "read the thread again; it's all in there."

4. Putting the onus for failure on the customer. This depends on #3 above. Since the method is vague, the scammer will blame any failure on the customer's inability to use the method "correctly." But "correctly" is never quite defined.

5. Lack of any objective testing of the method. This also depends on #3 above. If the method remains vague enough or if the scammer just keeps introducing new variables into the method, then it's impossible to test it to see if it really works.

6. Appeals to emotion in the face of rational skepticism. This can take many forms. At first the scammer will act all hurt and offended if you question them. They will tell you all about how they're doing all this for a good cause and how dare you doubt them. Then they'll accuse you of "looking for free handouts" in an effort to provoke an angry response. This is important because such a response then reduces the credibility of the questioner in the eyes of other potential suckers. Ultimately, the scammer will simply resort to ad-hominem attacks and profanity. On the net, they may do this through the use of multiple accounts and sock puppets. But they never get around to answering the questions.

This is an anatomy of a scam. These six signs are not exhaustive, and you may be able to think of some others.

I've visited the James16 thread and never saw any of the kind of behavior I just described, so I would be comfortable paying for such a service if I needed it. You have every right to charge for it, and you should. Keep up the good work!
  • #4,037
  • May 9, 2008 10:30pm May 9, 2008 10:30pm
Quoting itguy
Nice that you failed to mention the fact that all the proceeds from the modest monthly subscription go to benefit charity.

Threads die here because people move on to better things, they get tired of the complete negativity and disrespect exhibited by the members of FF.

Nice that you also failed to mention that Bo has a commercial for profit site.

PH you can continue to believe whatever you want about Skunny's site or intentions with this thread, but in the end you know the truth behind it.

Don't insinuate that Skunny's intentions were anything but motivated by the goodness in his heart to help children with Autism through the collection of monthly fees.
Itguy/Pipskateer

Nice to see you guys still checking out the bosses original thread but don’t get your chonies in such a bunch over what I posted. Someone asked for a summary, I gave one and there were no inaccuracies in my post as far as I can see. I didn’t need to post a detailed essay of the pay site as it is not my place to do so. I just gave a readers digest version of my opinion of Skunny’s method based on this thread and my reason for why I thought the thread died.

The facts remain the same

1. The thread died because all the participants left and went over to the pay site (myself included).

2, the method at its most basic level is what I posted it as….find correct S/R, draw a fib, trade the 0/100 breakout to the 138 and 162 extensions.

I have no gripes or complaints against Skunny or his pay site, as a matter of fact I was and still am very grateful for the knowledge he gave freely to everyone hear on this thread.
I have to put Skunny right up there in my Forex Factory Hall of Fame thread favorites. Those would be in no particular order

James16, Jacko, Bobokus, Skunny, fti, Islander, and more recently PeterCrowns.

I never expected Skunny to “give” away anything in this thread, and those newer readers to this thread should not expect it either, there is plenty of knowledge and wisdom to be gained from reading this thread to be able to trade successfully IMO, that is what made this thread so great is because Skunny made us all think and work things out for ourselves and for those lessons I am ever grateful.

I joined Skunny’s pay site and I enjoyed it and I stayed for three months and left on my own decision, I was in no way tagging along for the ride and “hedging”??? what the h3ll was there to hedge for anyways? It just wasn’t progressing for me as I thought it would so I’ll just leave it at that and call my decision to un-subscribe my own aha moment

His pay site is for charity……..big whoop. I spend plenty of money each year on many charitable organizations so I have no problem with that concept so the cheap shot about “I failed to mention that it’s for charity” is irrelevant. I could care less if Skunny operated his site like Vegas or worse yet the guys at PipSnipers. I don’t handle the site proceeds so I can’t comment on that aspect. Is the site a registered 501(c) charity?? Who cares anyways, it is irrelevant.

I admire the guys like Bo, fti, Jacko, and Skunny who posted on Forex Factory day in and day out and maintained their own threads and at the same time put up with all the jack-holes (as Diallist so eloquently put it) that try/tried to poison their threads.
trading naked.......
  • #4,038
  • May 9, 2008 10:56pm May 9, 2008 10:56pm
Quoting capitalist88


This post says it all. I rest my case.

Oh, and by the way, it's "you're" not "your."
And this coming from someone who couldn't spell "Bachelor" in his bio?

Tsk, Tsk, isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? How we do forget:


http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=3597
  • #4,039
  • May 9, 2008 11:03pm May 9, 2008 11:03pm
Quoting capitalist88
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=161


Next time you might want to do a little research before posting. You can pull your foot out of your mouth now...

I thought it was on your neck. Back to "foot in mouth" - You call this a trading system, we would all starve, lol. I guess I forgot to mention the profitable to where I can live a healthy lifestyle part. LOL


Still treading water as the account gained 0.3% this week. The EUR/JPY position open equity is below.
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  • #4,040
  • May 9, 2008 11:09pm May 9, 2008 11:09pm
Quoting capitalist88
Spot on Diallist! As a capitalist, I couldn't agree more. Someone who's constantly talking about "sharing" is often really talking about free handouts. And there's certainly nothing wrong with charging money for a valuable product or service. In fact, trading value for value is one of the highest moral activities in which humans can engage.

Simply charging money for something doesn't mean it's a scam. As you just pointed out, the relevant factor is the legitimacy of the product or service in question. So here is a brief list of what I generally look for in identifying a scam:
Thank you 88,

Yes, as you say, your list is generally good for finding rip-off artists. It is valuable for all traders to have some method of discernment. If we think of these rip-off artists as ducks, then your general list would serve as a reasonably good duck detector. But no set of guidelines is perfect and occasionally the guideless will reject a legitimate deal. It would be a case of "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck.....OR.....it might be an eagle wrapped in a duck adapter.

I understand your arguments, but in the case of Skunny, I have found everything he has said to be true and spot on. James16 lifted me from being a losing trader, to a winning one. He also encouraged me to constantly be on the lookout for new knowledge to help improve my trading. I sensed in Skunny a man of the same integrity, and cut from the same cloth as James16, and now that I am inside the forum and can see what is going on, my sense has been validated. Skunny is straight and true. Just as James16 taught me to trade well, Skunny is guiding me to the next level. Since joining his group, and knuckling down and doing all the grunt work to test the concepts he is sharing, my trading has improved tremendously. In my first week of applying Skunny's concepts, I had 17 consecutive winning trades, and six more the following week. Then I started losing until I reviewed what Skunny had taught me and realized I had overlooked an important detail. My bad, but I corrected it and my trading is improving every week. I have no complaints. I have only praise.

It is rare to find even one man (or woman) of phenomenal integrity, but I have been blessed to find four. James16, Skunny, and two others I am not free to disclose (sorry). I am indeed a blessed man!

So, thanks again for your guidelines and I hope new traders will use them to protect themselves, but I hope they will also realize that the guidelines are not infallible, and must therefore keep an open and objective, albeit cautious, mind.

I wish you well in your trading!

Dial
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