so if people go after Jason legally and he's 'transferred' the business under Hosea, how does Hosea get affected by his association with Jason?
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DislikedI still believe Kinn was the real trader in PS since we all seen him trade and followed his journal. (Not glad with his recent performance but have faith in his trading style and yes he said the room will be free till people in the room make pips) ......................People also get banned from ff stating they were using the same ip with Kinn. Although I am not a tech person someone mentioned about this ip thing earlier that the ip coud be same if used thru same free server. He has shown the good intentions to help people by opening a free room whereas Jason tried to collect 2 months money and combine his room with some other trader.Ignored
DislikedActually he could sit in quiet and trade on his own and wont mind anything... I agree with the teaching thing but as long as he says he wont be teaching that is also understandable... Or he could say he would be teaching and he would easily be drawing lines and waves (reminds someone?) all over the place with breakout of hi/lo's and tl's and people would think they would be learning or thinking Kinn teaching his strategy. Isn't that the case with the ps experience? No offence in this subject as an h&s trader to kate but what else was taught by the mods? Breaking the trendline and entering at the pullback? 123 formations? resistance and support? Oscillators being oversold and overbought?... And some say they have learnt how to trade... This is funny. These are the stuff you just have to learn before live trading if you want to have an idea. And that is why we reference the "baby site" to the newbies who wants to learn the first steps as well as guiding some threads here in ff.
I actually dont know whether the ip s are the same or not also. Look at hakunas journal.. Fer is talking to Hakuna in post #1798. Is he nuts to say merry christmas to himself?? And there are more examples to that. We all be going to be detectives if this goes on. Twee is the new mod and I guess he tries his best but in this case an experienced mod like smjones would handle this mess better I guess. If people should have been banned they should have been banned when the infraction occured not weeks later a situation like this has been occured. Hakuna and pipchick are two important names in here and anybody can see their contribution to the forum (especially Kinn's)and the mods here can easily judge who to look after. Differing the healthy apples from the rotten... but what they did was banning everybody involved in this mess...Ignored
DislikedI have spoken to pipchick via email. She needed time to get herself together after the bashing she has taken on this thread. Most of you know me as honorable and trustworthy. Let me say this. I BELIEVE PIPCHICK!!!!!!! She has allowed me to post this email that she sent to me and hopefully you guys will have a better understanding of what went down in pipscammers/pipsnipers. Let me say this, JASON YOU ARE A COMPLETE CONMAN. YOU WILL REAP WHAT YOU HAVE SOWN. IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO REPENT AND I WILL PRAY FOR YOU! This is the email:
Hi
Boy what a roller coaster this was for Jen and I. I don’t believe that Kinn and Jason purposefully set out to scam anyone. They just thought that with their abilities, there was a lot of money to be made for them.
I joined the room when it was free and was asked by them to be a mod. They were familiar with me through my posts on FF. It was a great concept. The first 2 weeks of the paid room went well. But behind the scenes, I was having difficulties with Kinn and his abruptness. He wanted to just share trades and do no teaching. I wanted to teach also. Kinn’s personality was to be very direct, which I was uncomfortable with. I also didn’t always agree with his trades but it was very difficult to tell Kinn so. There was more than one occasion where Clint and i tried to tell kinn to not take a trade but he did so anyways. after they turned out to be losers, he'd just hang up on us then go bitch to jason
Jason decided, for his own reasons, to ban kinn from the room. Afterall, he was the sole owner of the business. Well those of us behind the scenes felt that things would get back on track with Kinn gone and we’d be the great trading team that we had hoped for. I even asked my trading partner to join.
Well things didn’t go so well even after Kinn left. We didn’t agree with some of Jason’s trades. We also didn’t like the boasting he was doing, nor the excuses he gave for no trades. Meanwhile, we were making pips behind the scenes, trades that weren’t being shared with the room. After over a week of no trades shared in the room, after he told everyone that we weren't going to take anymore gj trades, jason traded it behind the scenes. Jen and I were telling him of some setups on other pairs, such as the yen and the swiss but he was busy trading his own account. Jen called him on it and said " Jason don't you think you should be looking at trades for members instead of trading for yourself?"
The next day Jen and I told him that we wanted to share our trades from now on and try to make some pips for everyone. But let me tell you, this is a big undertaking since I felt so much responsibility for my trades. But I knew we were good traders so with time we’de do well with sharing our trades.
But then I read the posts at FF and wondered about some of these business dealings Jason had been involved with in the past and I just wasn’t comfortable with the whole way things were progressing in the room either. I didn’t agree with banning people, I didn’t agree with not refunding people who requested it. Afterall many joined because of Kinn. The last week there, I was told that members were going to be refunded, only to hear him then say in the room that there were going to be no refunds. As much as I wanted to help people learn to trade, I just didn’t want to be associated with Jason anymore. I had a problem with Jason bringing hosea on board so quickly right before the end of the month to lure members into paying for april and beyond.
My timing for quitting sucked. I wish I had done it a week before but it was the last week when the previous businesses of Jason came to light. I felt bad for anyone that signed up because of me and Jen, only to have us quit at the end of the month.
I believe both Kinn and Jason are to blame, both are responsible to refund everyone. I have reason to believe they have spent the money and that’s why they can’t refund anyone. ( Clint and I were on skype with Jason when he was talking to the bank trying to stop one of the wires to Kinn so that’s how I know Kinn did receive money) I made 2k while at pipsnipers , I pride myself on being ethical, a good trader and also in trying to help people so I hope some of you benefited from my knowledge and experience. I’m just sorry how this all ended.
Kate
PS…There is more that I could say but I really don’t want to get involved with legal matters with them so I need to choose my words carefully.Ignored
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DislikedO M G....there is a lot of interest in this story! The FBI has asked that I forward them the emails from both Kinn and Jason, specifically the one's wherein Kinn listed all of the email addresses. Not sure how soon they will be contacting folks, if at all, but I need to know if you guys (atleast the one's reading this thread) are cool with that. Please confirm!
Lots and lots of activity, but I don't want to tip these shisters off, too much, as to what is about to happen to them so I'll keep is quiet....these guys are going DOWN DOWN DOWN!Ignored
DislikedO M G....there is a lot of interest in this story! The FBI has asked that I forward them the emails from both Kinn and Jason, specifically the one's wherein Kinn listed all of the email addresses. Not sure how soon they will be contacting folks, if at all, but I need to know if you guys (atleast the one's reading this thread) are cool with that. Please confirm!
Lots and lots of activity, but I don't want to tip these shisters off, too much, as to what is about to happen to them so I'll keep is quiet....these guys are going DOWN DOWN DOWN!Ignored
DislikedO M G....there is a lot of interest in this story! The FBI has asked that I forward them the emails from both Kinn and Jason, specifically the one's wherein Kinn listed all of the email addresses. Not sure how soon they will be contacting folks, if at all, but I need to know if you guys (atleast the one's reading this thread) are cool with that. Please confirm!
Lots and lots of activity, but I don't want to tip these shisters off, too much, as to what is about to happen to them so I'll keep is quiet....these guys are going DOWN DOWN DOWN!Ignored
DislikedO M G....there is a lot of interest in this story! The FBI has asked that I forward them the emails from both Kinn and Jason, specifically the one's wherein Kinn listed all of the email addresses. Not sure how soon they will be contacting folks, if at all, but I need to know if you guys (atleast the one's reading this thread) are cool with that. Please confirm!
Lots and lots of activity, but I don't want to tip these shisters off, too much, as to what is about to happen to them so I'll keep is quiet....these guys are going DOWN DOWN DOWN!Ignored
DislikedAbout hatari:-
{Note from Twee: The IP Address of hatari matches that of Hakuna Matata, which usually means it's the same user. Please be careful to not get involved in this scam!}
BUSTED!Ignored