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  • Feb 11, 2008 2:39pm Feb 11, 2008 2:39pm
  •  PiPr Pro
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 312 Posts
To everyone that offered their condolences - thank you. Life is so precious and when someone terminally ill takes that decision into their own hands it brings the grieving process swiftly to the front. Thank you again. Now to help take my mind off things I'll try to get back to work.

I have not seen this analysis here today, so I thought I would be blunt instead of giving away hints. Note the fib placement I had and how it has differed from the ones posted here so far. The support (0 fib) later became support again and provided initial retracement pips at the support line that Skunny has discussed. Someone here coined the expression DZ or decision zone. I prefer to call it the NNDZ or Nervous Nellie Decision Zone. After your primary PA move for the day you can usually define your new fibs loosely by the retracement, whipsaw, retracement action. This is simply the retail buyers and sellers moving in and out of the market or what has affectionately been called the Nervous Nellie's in institutional circles. In other words the internal fibs are usually contained within this action as seen in the attached picture. If you place your fibs on this NNDZ action you will short change yourself on the pips available later at the extensions. If you draw the fibs too wide you will suffer large DD to hopefully find the extension target many days / weeks later.

Note the Gann 14 has been working recently as the retracement line to break. When the retracement is quick, PA usually runs sideways similar to Friday then when the line is broken within several hours the PA breaks down. This is easy to see real time because PA will react to the line from nowhere, you know you have it right.
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  • Feb 11, 2008 2:50pm Feb 11, 2008 2:50pm
  •  Big Wave Rider
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Here is what I see on cable 4hr.
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Just Trade It
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 4:17pm Feb 11, 2008 4:17pm
  •  dagoods
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hi pipr! great work on the gann stuff!

now we need a code3r so it doenst repaint and only keeps the relevant lines on the chart....dang does this mean we need an indicator?!

uh oh! lol


personally i prefer to KISS and work with just the fibs right now...

PS updated cahrt for gu below.... i'd say this is pipperfect wouldnt u guys?


so far latest experimental skunny record = 1 win 0 losses
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  • Feb 11, 2008 4:29pm Feb 11, 2008 4:29pm
  •  PiPr Pro
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we knew this nearly 12 hours ago
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we knew this nearly 12 hours ago
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Hi PiPr pro,
How did you know it would be that particular Gann Line?
The thing is you can end up with Gann lines all over your charts - so one of them is bound to appear to interact with PA.
How does one limit them to only those which will interact with PA ?

thanks,
Ian
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 5:23pm Feb 11, 2008 5:23pm
  •  PiPr Pro
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Hi PiPr pro,
How did you know it would be that particular Gann Line?
The thing is you can end up with Gann lines all over your charts - so one of them is bound to appear to interact with PA.
How does one limit them to only thise which will interact with PA ?

thanks,
Ian
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Hi ianf0ster, I have posted on this forum the current Gann number that is working for retracements only. In other words, the Gann 14 line is currently the line to watch when you have had a move and you place the Gann+14 at the bottom of the move. This defines the PA and subsequent BO. Look at the last 2 months and place this at the bottom of each move. You know its the bottom by your PA or easier - just wait a couple of hours to confirm the bottom of the move has occurred. Once the NNDZ is over, PA will begin loosely following this line. This only creates 1 line. Of course, if you want targets to go with the fibs after that point, then you would need a couple gann lines - but not several.
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 5:28pm Feb 11, 2008 5:28pm
  •  dagoods
  • Joined Nov 2007 | Status: Member | 3,045 Posts
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Hi ianf0ster, I have posted on this forum the current Gann number that is working for retracements only. In other words, the Gann 14 line is currently the line to watch when you have had a move and you place the Gann+14 at the bottom of the move. This defines the PA and subsequent BO. Look at the last 2 months and place this at the bottom of each move. You know its the bottom by your PA or easier - just wait a couple of hours to confirm the bottom of the move has occurred. Once the NNDZ is over, PA will begin loosely following this line. This only creates 1 line. Of course, if you want targets to go with the fibs after that point, then you would need a couple gann lines - but not several.
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hey bud... you are no doubt a genius but maybe u should start a gann thread... cause i have no idea what u mean lol



u would have to give idots like me step by step for dummies lol

i have no idea how to even draw a gann line without dxtrades tool that he coded.... the tool on mt4 is useless to me... do u use mt4 gannfan? then u have multiple lines?


very confusing this gann.... lol arent fibs hard enough!

looking forward to you thread though!
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 5:45pm Feb 11, 2008 5:45pm
  •  sizzler
  • | Joined Dec 2007 | Status: Member | 392 Posts
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Hi ianf0ster, I have posted on this forum the current Gann number that is working for retracements only. In other words, the Gann 14 line is currently the line to watch when you have had a move and you place the Gann+14 at the bottom of the move. This defines the PA and subsequent BO. Look at the last 2 months and place this at the bottom of each move. You know its the bottom by your PA or easier - just wait a couple of hours to confirm the bottom of the move has occurred. Once the NNDZ is over, PA will begin loosely following this line. This only creates 1 line. Of course, if you want targets to go with the fibs after that point, then you would need a couple gann lines - but not several.
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PIpr,

Glad to have you back .
You are using 14 on the retrace then boom pow switching it up for a target line and using the "other" setting?

I am very interested to see your Fib/Gann style develop as it is distinctly different then mine and I like that.

I curious as to what discipline you trade normally? I know I know but it never hurts to ask


Plop Plop Sizz sizz


EDIT Dagoods Gann is simple AS FAR AS DRAWING THEM just use the line tool in MT4 and click properties to get the right setting. From what I have read and what I am seeing a lot of it is trail and error like finding a setting that works. it APPEARS Skunny has set settings for break out trades and PiprPro might be using two different settings. I am a novices novice in this so ... meh. meh meh.
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 5:47pm Feb 11, 2008 5:47pm
  •  PiPr Pro
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hey bud... you are no doubt a genius but maybe u should start a gann thread... cause i have no idea what u mean lol



u would have to give idots like me step by step for dummies lol

i have no idea how to even draw a gann line without dxtrades tool that he coded.... the tool on mt4 is useless to me... do u use mt4 gannfan? then u have multiple lines?


very confusing this gann.... lol arent fibs hard enough!

looking forward to you thread though!
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I cannot start a thread due to industry regulations, it would be considered advise. I can post here similar to everyone else for education and training. I'm learning Gann also. I used to laugh at harmonics, vibrations, etc. I'm not laughing anymore. If Gann can give me a slight edge from 85% W/L ratio to 90%+ you can figure the $$. Skunny said it's possible to trade 100% accurate. I agree with him. I take every missed trade of mine and re-trade and have found my mistakes every single time. I have never traded 100%, but it is possible. Gann has already helped my trading a little. There are many trading programs that offer greater than 75% W/L ratio. Fibs will give you even better. Fibs / Gann - we'll see! The image below is obvious.
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  • Feb 11, 2008 6:00pm Feb 11, 2008 6:00pm
  •  dagoods
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I cannot start a thread due to industry regulations, it would be considered advise. I can post here similar to everyone else for education and training. I'm learning Gann also. I used to laugh at harmonics, vibrations, etc. I'm not laughing anymore. If Gann can give me a slight edge from 85% W/L ratio to 90%+ you can figure the $$. Skunny said it's possible to trade 100% accurate. I agree with him. I take every missed trade of mine and re-trade and have found my mistakes every single time. I have never traded 100%, but it is possible. Gann has already helped my trading a little. There are many trading programs that offer greater than 75% W/L ratio. Fibs will give you even better. Fibs / Gann - we'll see! The image below is obvious.
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that IS obvious!!!!!! very very nice pipr!!!!!
those are the 14 lines i gather.... where/how would the -14 4 -4 be drawn?



thanks pipr!

thanks!
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 6:07pm Feb 11, 2008 6:07pm
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..............(1)You are using 14 on the retrace then boom pow switching it up for a target line and using the "other" setting?
..........................(2)I curious as to what discipline you trade normally? I know I know but it never hurts to ask
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(1)Gann+14 from the bottom only. It gives me initial direction and later gives a BO area to watch PA interact with the line and potentially fall. In other words if we have hit a fib T and have a gann14 nearby we are about to break back down. I'm sorry if I'm not making this clear enough.

This morning I took the 207.40 long based on the H1 Gann 14 and monitoring on the M15. This was an early entry to my fib. There are 2 clear fib moves after that and we are currently in the 3rd to see if it supports in the 208.39-208.43 area.

(2) Fibs - S&R(includes TL's) - PA
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 6:16pm Feb 11, 2008 6:16pm
  •  Brunite
  • | Joined Dec 2006 | Status: Who be flying?....Pigs be flying! | 295 Posts
Pipr,

Good to see you back!

I had posed the following questions right before your absence......I'm sure you missed them.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask again:

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Very, very, very nice!

I used this this A.M. and it worked very well to say the least!

Question.....pardon my Gann ignorance.......how did you settle on the 14 setting?........have you tested this on lower TF?

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I have been doing some testing and found some different angles to work on other TF's.....so far....for me anyway. Thanks for whatever light you can shine on this!
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 6:38pm Feb 11, 2008 6:38pm
  •  PiPr Pro
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 312 Posts
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................ Thanks for whatever light you can shine on this!
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OK - I take the Gann square of 9 with the rotation bezel on the outside and line up both the cardinal and diagonal cross with the spring equinox when it is in conjunction with both alignments of Jupiter and Mars and the constellation Aries (which represents the spring equinox).
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 6:42pm Feb 11, 2008 6:42pm
  •  PiPr Pro
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 312 Posts
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OK - I take the Gann square of 9 with the rotation bezel on the outside and line up both the cardinal and diagonal cross with the spring equinox when it is in conjunction with both alignments of Jupiter and Mars and the constellation Aries (which represents the spring equinox).
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  • Feb 11, 2008 7:00pm Feb 11, 2008 7:00pm
  •  sizzler
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(1)Gann+14 from the bottom only. It gives me initial direction and later gives a BO area to watch PA interact with the line and potentially fall. In other words if we have hit a fib T and have a gann14 nearby we are about to break back down. I'm sorry if I'm not making this clear enough.

This morning I took the 207.40 long based on the H1 Gann 14 and monitoring on the M15. This was an early entry to my fib. There are 2 clear fib moves after that and we are currently in the 3rd to see if it supports in the 208.39-208.43 area.

(2) Fibs - S&R(includes TL's) - PA
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LOl sorry I thouht you were alluding to using a different GL setting in combo
It is Crystal.

Thanks

SIzz
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 7:06pm Feb 11, 2008 7:06pm
  •  PiPr Pro
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Pipr,

Good to see you back!

I had posed the following questions right before your absence......I'm sure you missed them.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask again:
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Very, very, very nice!

I used this this A.M. and it worked very well to say the least!

Question.....pardon my Gann ignorance.......how did you settle on the 14 setting?........have you tested this on lower TF?

I have been doing some testing and found some different angles to work on other TF's.....so far....for me anyway. Thanks for whatever light you can shine on this!
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OK - seriously - when I begin studying a subject I speed read and listen at a fast speed 1.5X to 2X, so I have absorbed a lot of material on Gann in a short time. It is obvious from the material I have so far there are different settings for: currency pair, long, short and time. So when zooming out and looking at the charts per pair you can find the general trends, and then I started changing the angles to fit - then I noticed the pattern was around 14 each time. And, seriously, I am trying to line this up with what is written in the original Gann material to see if I can calculate this on different time frames.
 
 
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  • Feb 11, 2008 7:16pm Feb 11, 2008 7:16pm
  •  dagoods
  • Joined Nov 2007 | Status: Member | 3,045 Posts
I can see already now that this gann stuff is going to be insano and cause me more sleepless nights if that is at all possible lol


if u throw a -6 in as prive projection seems pretty close on 1 hr
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  • Feb 11, 2008 7:42pm Feb 11, 2008 7:42pm
  •  lowell
  • | Joined Dec 2006 | Status: Baby Pip! | 229 Posts
Wow, Pipr! I'm paying attention now. After throwing a few of these on my chart I'm amazed all over again. Thanks for pointing out a way to play with Gann that is simple and works.

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Hi ianf0ster, I have posted on this forum the current Gann number that is working for retracements only. In other words, the Gann 14 line is currently the line to watch when you have had a move and you place the Gann+14 at the bottom of the move. This defines the PA and subsequent BO. Look at the last 2 months and place this at the bottom of each move. You know its the bottom by your PA or easier - just wait a couple of hours to confirm the bottom of the move has occurred. Once the NNDZ is over, PA will begin loosely following this line. This only creates 1 line. Of course, if you want targets to go with the fibs after that point, then you would need a couple gann lines - but not several.
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  • Feb 11, 2008 9:05pm Feb 11, 2008 9:05pm
  •  DXTrade
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Now I'm not sure anymore in what thread to post these charts!
Bus as we have gann lines here as well... (sorry Izzy )
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  • Feb 11, 2008 9:52pm Feb 11, 2008 9:52pm
  •  sizzler
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Now I'm not sure anymore in what thread to post these charts!
Bus as we have gann lines here as well... (sorry Izzy )
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Dx,

don't those look like the same chart? I guess we are just bearish on yen. I have been pulling longs on yen crosess just based on that kind of stuff. I think EUR and CHF yen are tracking too which means prolly aud and nzd are aswell.. it really helps cut down on bad short term fibs if you see that amount of correlation and a fib is tricky, just pop over to a different yen cross that is easier to see or maybe already signalled and pop the trade that way.

I am comfortable if I have a long of say eur/jpy opening longs on any (almost) jpy in this situation. IMO you can smoke a cart load of trades this way. it is also a good way to completely blow your MM if you do it wrong

Sizz
 
 
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