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  • #5,241
  • Jun 12, 3:48pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 3:48pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting AK.47
{quote} quite unfortunate, that definitely could be a reason but I'd still say they got a few left in them. They aren't doing any stupid 40-50% discount codes or BOGO codes and stuff like that. I'm sure they should still have an influx of cash cause looking at their data ( now take it with a grain of salt and bread crumbs if you will, I am by no means an analyst, expert or whoever's profession this is ) But a lot of people who do get paid out, get only about low triple digits, of course with some big hitters. Now I am doing this all by...
yes but if you see their payouts in last months is decreasing, as their payout complaints also increasing, ftmo is holding more because they have big cash but if they dont come to futures space they will suffer, look at topstep and tradeify payouts amounts is alot

And also the futures model is more sustainable for prop firms, if i trade start winning the open live account and thats it atleast the most reputable and with real live accounts
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  • #5,242
  • Jun 12, 4:10pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:10pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting Novazor
{quote} yes but if you see their payouts in last months is decreasing, as their payout complaints also increasing, ftmo is holding more because they have big cash but if they dont come to futures space they will suffer, look at topstep and tradeify payouts amounts is alot And also the futures model is more sustainable for prop firms, if i trade start winning the open live account and thats it atleast the most reputable and with real live accounts {image}
You're right. I was wrong to think they weren't having money issues. This sure seems fucked, at least for me who's not only got an account with them but have also scaled. I hope they do better and fix this but if hoping is the best one can do, it's really a shit time isn't it

Thank you for making this clear gang! I think you do indeed get what you pay for in most cases. So FTMO having higher upfront cost might be the play.
Why isn't FTMO in payoutjunction if you know?
  • #5,243
  • Jun 12, 4:32pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:32pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting AK.47
{quote} You're right. I was wrong to think they weren't having money issues. This sure seems fucked, at least for me who's not only got an account with them but have also scaled. I hope they do better and fix this but if hoping is the best one can do, it's really a shit time isn't it Thank you for making this clear gang! I think you do indeed get what you pay for in most cases. So FTMO having higher upfront cost might be the play. Why isn't FTMO in payoutjunction if you know?
they dont use rise so is not possible to know, but they also have lower payouts so is just cfds being less appeling than futures
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  • #5,244
  • Jun 12, 4:34pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:34pm (15 hr ago)
in payouts tradeify is bigger than ftmo, and topstep i think is the real mvp since they claim they have 1.4billion in payouts overall
  • #5,245
  • Jun 12, 4:35pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:35pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting AK.47
{quote} Mate, I'm so so sorry for not replying as soon as I could. I don't receive notifications from people who reply to my posts for some reason. I keep checking the thread to reply but since I had nothing to talk about, I didn't check it. I do now for something absurd but stumbled upon this first. ACG seems like a solid option, specially in the CFD space. I don't mind an interview to be very honest, just hate the delays it leads to; speaking of 5ers. I'll make a separate post on that. FundingPips is what I'm working on next week! halfway through...

I remember ftmo said even if i start new challenge 1% will apply, all futures accounts with them, so after i blow my funded account no more trading with them. But i am not going to change my trading style, don't have patient to build accounts for months or weeks. Learn from my mistake and take it slowly, don't gamble.
  • #5,246
  • Jun 12, 4:38pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:38pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting Novazor
{quote} they dont use rise so is not possible to know, but they also have lower payouts so is just cfds being less appeling than futures {image} {image} {image}
Novazor You've been helpful AF! These stats are what I needed to see honestly. These numbers are verified and undeniably scrumptious to go for an account on FTMO.
Thought so that it was because they don't do Rise. Guess bank transfers and crypto still makes a big chunk for tradeify, fundingpips and 5ers ( from what I can tell ) Though funding pips advertises as 260m+ paid and payout junction also notes that, so maybe they only do rise? I'm not too sure. Just got an account with them 2 days ago. Will check and tell if no one does!

1.4 billion is just unbelievable! They talking in monopoly money ong
  • #5,247
  • Jun 12, 4:39pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:39pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting AK.47
2 WHOLE WEEKS! 14 days and counting. After my last post on 5ers' employees being grannies on ventilators, I thought it couldn't get it worse. I was dead wrong. After REPEATED tickets created on discord and multiple "escalation" for my payout id by various different people, 2 from discord and 2 who created tickets from live chat, I still haven't received my payout. And the best part is... I've already requested for another payout Stupidest shit ever ong. They say they're at backlog and that they are EXTREMELY SORRY and they even thank...

This is why i deal with account week or two, imagine i build account for month or two and than prop firm got problem with cashflow and you not get paid. This destroys your mindset and affect trading. That is why i trade with more props do it fast , even if something goes wrong with 1 payout i got another coming, i treat it as cost of access to cheap capital, what else we can do.
  • #5,248
  • Jun 12, 4:40pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:40pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting youngD
{quote} I remember ftmo said even if i start new challenge 1% will apply, all futures accounts with them, so after i blow my funded account no more trading with them. But i am not going to change my trading style, don't have patient to build accounts for months or weeks. Learn from my mistake and take it slowly, don't gamble.
That's a bummer. I hope the 1% rule doesn't apply on the evals at least. I will indeed learn from the mistakes. I've always known that slow is fast. But we also gotta be efficient!

Risking only a percent and under on evals would be a nightmare to pass. So wouldn't be worth it for me if it turns out to be like that.

May I ask you what you did ( wrong [in their eyes] )?
  • #5,249
  • Jun 12, 4:41pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:41pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting youngD
{quote} This is why i deal with account week or two, imagine i build account for month or two and than prop firm got problem with cashflow and you not get paid. This destroys your mindset and affect trading. That is why i trade with more props do it fast , even if something goes wrong with 1 payout i got another coming, i treat it as cost of access to cheap capital, what else we can do.
ahaha funny you say that gang, because that's exactly what I'm doing rn too That's why I mentioned that's money I can afford.

Currently on my way to be funded with 2 more props
  • #5,250
  • Jun 12, 4:43pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:43pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting AK.47
{quote} Novazor You've been helpful AF! These stats are what I needed to see honestly. These numbers are verified and undeniably scrumptious to go for an account on FTMO. Thought so that it was because they don't do Rise. Guess bank transfers and crypto still makes a big chunk for tradeify, fundingpips and 5ers ( from what I can tell ) Though funding pips advertises as 260m+ paid and payout junction also notes that, so maybe they only do rise? I'm not too sure. Just got an account with them 2 days ago. Will check and tell if no one does! 1.4 billion...
take it with a grain of salt as they can manipulate it sending crypto to their own wallets ect, but with these we can see that futures prop firms are taking over
  • #5,251
  • Jun 12, 4:45pm (15 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:45pm (15 hr ago)
Quoting Novazor
{quote} take it with a grain of salt as they can manipulate it sending crypto to their own wallets ect, but with these we can see that futures prop firms are taking over
100% and as you said before, it's just more profitable as business standpoint for props to follow a futures route ( their own trailing DD and all those rules ).

I will be navigating through the futures space once I've mastered GU, which will take time. But I can work with max allocation on 3-5 great props on CFDs for now!
  • #5,252
  • Jun 12, 4:47pm (14 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:47pm (14 hr ago)
Quoting AK.47
{quote} quite unfortunate, that definitely could be a reason but I'd still say they got a few left in them. They aren't doing any stupid 40-50% discount codes or BOGO codes and stuff like that. I'm sure they should still have an influx of cash cause looking at their data ( now take it with a grain of salt and bread crumbs if you will, I am by no means an analyst, expert or whoever's profession this is ) But a lot of people who do get paid out, get only about low triple digits, of course with some big hitters. Now I am doing this all by...
I think we are in the race to bottom since forex companies joined futures field. We are at peak now, lot of good programs and promos with futures, hope it will last long, but i don't think so. In my view taking traders to live will not save futures space. In my opinion funded accounts should have max single payout amount (most futures programs already have) and just expire after for example 3 payouts, it's ok for me i will be more than happy to start challenge again . Let's take my favorite Lucid flex 50k example, you pay 98$ get 3 max payouts in total 6k $ and than account expire. 6k is 60 new accounts
  • #5,253
  • Jun 12, 4:52pm (14 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:52pm (14 hr ago)
Quoting AK.47
{quote} That's a bummer. I hope the 1% rule doesn't apply on the evals at least. I will indeed learn from the mistakes. I've always known that slow is fast. But we also gotta be efficient! Risking only a percent and under on evals would be a nightmare to pass. So wouldn't be worth it for me if it turns out to be like that. May I ask you what you did ( wrong [in their eyes] )?
I burned 4 or 5 10k challenges than got in to funded and earned 5 or 6 % in one short trade on Xauusd, this was super trade and it was worth it, and it's swing account after all. Next payout from ftmo next week. Now I stop when i earn 200-250 $
  • #5,254
  • Jun 12, 4:54pm (14 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:54pm (14 hr ago)
Quoting youngD
{quote} I think we are in the race to bottom since forex companies joined futures field. We are at peak now, lot of good programs and promos with futures, hope it will last long, but i don't think so. In my view taking traders to live will not save futures space. In my opinion funded accounts should have max single payout amount (most futures programs already have) and just expire after for example 3 payouts, it's ok for me i will be more than happy to start challenge again . Let's take my favorite Lucid flex 50k example, you pay 98$ get 3 max payouts...
I fw that heavy icl. The challenge -> funded -> max payouts recieved -> challenge rinse and repeat would be substantially more sustainable for a prop firm.

I saw that where 3k was the max payout one could request. I think I saw a CFD firm too where 6% max request for the first payout ( 10000 dollars max for 200k ) so I guess they ARE trying to blend that program type, but let's see.
  • #5,255
  • Jun 12, 4:55pm (14 hr ago) Jun 12, 4:55pm (14 hr ago)
Quoting youngD
{quote} I burned 4 or 5 10k challenges than got in to funded and earned 5 or 6 % in one short trade on Xauusd, this was super trade and it was worth it, and it's swing account after all. Next payout from ftmo next week. Now I stop when i earn 200-250 $
ahh it's the same thing happening with Hola Prime rn. High RR strats are being classified as "gambling" or maybe people ARE gambling but we still can't generalize it, right?

Be proud of yourself mate that you've learned and will learn from your mistakes. Congratulations on the payout and most importantly, mindset shift!
  • #5,256
  • Edited 8:25pm Jun 12, 8:10pm (11 hr ago) | Edited 8:25pm
Quoting AK.47
2 WHOLE WEEKS! 14 days and counting. After my last post on 5ers' employees being grannies on ventilators, I thought it couldn't get it worse. I was dead wrong. After REPEATED tickets created on discord and multiple "escalation" for my payout id by various different people, 2 from discord and 2 who created tickets from live chat, I still haven't received my payout. And the best part is... I've already requested for another payout Stupidest shit ever ong. They say they're at backlog and that they are EXTREMELY SORRY and they even thank...
I thought they were top notch and paid really well from what most have said over the years.
I got a random e-mail from them this week advertising some new account to trade. I never get emails from them marketing this or that.
Hope it gets sorted for you.
  • #5,257
  • Jun 12, 9:45pm (10 hr ago) Jun 12, 9:45pm (10 hr ago)
Quoting Novazor
{quote} they dont use rise so is not possible to know, but they also have lower payouts so is just cfds being less appeling than futures {image} {image} {image}
yo theres levels to this crazy
  • #5,258
  • Jun 12, 9:47pm (9 hr ago) Jun 12, 9:47pm (9 hr ago)
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} I thought they were top notch and paid really well from what most have said over the years. I got a random e-mail from them this week advertising some new account to trade. I never get emails from them marketing this or that. Hope it gets sorted for you.
Yes gang. They're top notch, or at least they were until this bumass "backlog" happened. Thank you for letting us ( me ) know that they've been advertising, if anything that's a bad sign for stuff to get sorted imo

Appreciate the concern and wellness bro!

Hope you have a profitable week ahead after the deal get confirmed, only to be fake 2 hours later
  • #5,259
  • Jun 13, 12:53am (6 hr ago) Jun 13, 12:53am (6 hr ago)
Hi guys ...2 month ago i bought 5k challenge from 5ers and after passing i got 400$ payout within 6-7 days after payout request...then i blew it and bought 2 time 10k challenge but blew those because i was trying to get 10% target in 1-2 days... now i have purchased again 10k challenge 4 days ago and about to complete 1st phase in 1-2 days .....

Now You guys are saying that 5ers doesn't have funds to give payouts ..
  • #5,260
  • Jun 13, 6:05am (1 hr 41 min ago) Jun 13, 6:05am (1 hr 41 min ago)
i have been hearing bad about the5ers months ago with they predatory interviews when people request payouts
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