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  • #5,121
  • Jun 1, 2026 9:23am Jun 1, 2026 9:23am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} What firms are using the a/b model?
what is a/b model?
  • #5,122
  • Jun 2, 2026 5:03am Jun 2, 2026 5:03am
Guys can anyone suggest me the best prop firms to start my Journey in this.
  • #5,123
  • Jun 2, 2026 10:42am Jun 2, 2026 10:42am
From what I know, the A/B model is less applicable for the prop-industry. Either you are a regulated broker, or you are not. That hybrid approach is not sustainable. Moreover, I've witnessed a huge number of affiliate-based prop firms that are using the prop activity to channel leads to their brokerage. That is smart on their side, but I'm not sure that it matches the clients intention upon sign-up. A depositing lead for a broker is usually valued at $1,400-$1,800, which means that they are getting "hot off the press" prop-traders whom are hungry for success and has a bigger conversion potential, for 10% of that price or less.. Just check if any broker reached out to you following your registration/purchase with one of them and you'll know exactly which ones to look-out from.
  • #5,124
  • Jun 2, 2026 10:44am Jun 2, 2026 10:44am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, the futures I get. In his post though he says this A/B model is better than any futures prop model. I would think if FTMO and the 5%ers were using it, they'd advertsie it? To me, it's an enormous selling point.
excuse me, Maybee I am stupid and dumpf, but why I should care about the a or b as long as I get my requested payout.
  • #5,125
  • Jun 2, 2026 11:18am Jun 2, 2026 11:18am
Quoting samz20
Guys can anyone suggest me the best prop firms to start my Journey in this.
Can you bother to read the thread a bit?
Markets will move to the right.
  • #5,126
  • Jun 2, 2026 12:04pm Jun 2, 2026 12:04pm
Quoting MJurban
{quote} excuse me, Maybee I am stupid and dumpf, but why I should care about the a or b as long as I get my requested payout.
Sustainability of the firm so you can CONTINUE to receive payouts.
  • #5,127
  • Jun 3, 2:24am (40 hr ago) Jun 3, 2:24am (40 hr ago)
Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} Can you bother to read the thread a bit?
Thank you, noted.
  • #5,128
  • Jun 3, 2:38am (39 hr ago) Jun 3, 2:38am (39 hr ago)
Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} You didn't say what you trade, CFDs or futures. I'm not familiar with CFD prop firms, but among futures prop firms it's worth considering Lucid Trading, Tradeify, Topstep, My Funded Futures, Alpha Futures, and Take Profit Trader (if you're comfortable with intraday trading). These firms do pay out and generally have fairly reasonable rules.
And how about to trade forex in lucid trading and how much is the split in 25k funded account in lucidflex.
  • #5,129
  • Jun 3, 3:41am (38 hr ago) Jun 3, 3:41am (38 hr ago)
Quoting samz20
{quote} And how about to trade forex in lucid trading and how much is the split in 25k funded account in lucidflex.
You can't trade forex but you can FX futures contracts.
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You know they have flex account but you are not able to find out what is the split ?
I have spoon full of food for you LucidFlex Payouts | Lucid Trading Help Center
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #5,130
  • Jun 3, 4:15am (38 hr ago) Jun 3, 4:15am (38 hr ago)
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} You can't trade forex but you can FX futures contracts. {image} You know they have flex account but you are not able to find out what is the split ? I have spoon full of food for you LucidFlex Payouts | Lucid Trading Help Center
Well, those are minis (or full?) and will kill 25k acc for sure. Would need 150k acc.
MFFU has micro currency futures?

But the person asking those questions here ... I start to think that props should do some tests before handing out an account. But at the same time it is not in their best interest.
Markets will move to the right.
  • #5,131
  • Jun 3, 4:30am (37 hr ago) Jun 3, 4:30am (37 hr ago)
Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} Well, those are minis (or full?) and will kill 25k acc for sure. Would need 150k acc. MFFU has micro currency futures? But the person asking those questions here ... I start to think that props should do some tests before handing out an account. But at the same time it is not in their best interest.
You are right about that bigger account needed.
Actually APEX( I don't trade with them and not recommend) did it, its mandatory to complete a course but they don't force it or make exam in the end.
Don't know about MFFU but second prop(Tradeify) I am funded has only 2
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  • #5,132
  • Jun 3, 8:44am (33 hr ago) Jun 3, 8:44am (33 hr ago)
Quoting Mandariin
t second prop(Tradeify) I am funded has only 2
M6E is essentially the same as trading 6E or EUR/USD (but obviously at $1.25 per tick instead of $6.25 per tick or $10 per pip).

But in my experience, M6A isn’t at all the same as trading 6A or AUS/USD, though, because of significant differences in liquidity and the order-book.
  • #5,133
  • Jun 3, 9:30am (32 hr ago) Jun 3, 9:30am (32 hr ago)
To bad about the rule changes at TradeDay. Just when you start really liking a prop firm.... they go and change the rules. I guess that's just the way this industry is. I understand that they have to make adjustments to stay in business. I still have three accounts with them but when the jig is up with those is guess I'm looking for a new firm.
  • #5,134
  • Jun 3, 2:28pm (27 hr ago) Jun 3, 2:28pm (27 hr ago)
Quoting FX-Petra
To bad about the rule changes at TradeDay. Just when you start really liking a prop firm.... they go and change the rules.
Really? Which rule changes are you referring to? (They can’t change them retrospectively, surely?).
  • #5,135
  • Jun 3, 7:13pm (23 hr ago) Jun 3, 7:13pm (23 hr ago)
No, they are still honoring the old accounts. The changes are pretty big, though. They were the simplest, most straightforward way to a Live account. They were also the best at paying fast once you cleared the buffer..... and paying any amount you requested on an 80/20 split. All of that is gone now. They are no better than Apex now.... but you can only trade 3 accounts in the Funded Sim (Apex allows 20 accounts). I'm not seeing what their calling card is now. I might be switching back to Apex. I definitely would except for that Daily Loss Limit that Apex has. Oh well, I guess Trade Day was losing to much and had to change things up.
  • #5,136
  • Jun 4, 2:03am (16 hr ago) Jun 4, 2:03am (16 hr ago)
Quoting FX-Petra
No, they are still honoring the old accounts. The changes are pretty big, though. They were the simplest, most straightforward way to a Live account. They were also the best at paying fast once you cleared the buffer..... and paying any amount you requested on an 80/20 split. All of that is gone now. They are no better than Apex now.... but you can only trade 3 accounts in the Funded Sim (Apex allows 20 accounts). I'm not seeing what their calling card is now. I might be switching back to Apex. I definitely would except for that Daily Loss Limit...
Apex 20 accounts are useless, you run up a balance ask 1st payout, they say no and put you on a live account with 3000$ DD that never arrives.
People are waiting live account 1-2 months and still waiting...
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #5,137
  • Jun 4, 2:52am (15 hr ago) Jun 4, 2:52am (15 hr ago)
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} Apex 20 accounts are useless, you run up a balance ask 1st payout, they say no and put you on a live account with 3000$ DD that never arrives. People are waiting live account 1-2 months and still waiting...
Yes. Before anyone thinking of using Apex again, please read Trustpilot and do a search in X and Reddit. Looks horrible. It ain´t the same company it used to be.
I have traded Apex but it was few yars ago. Now I don´t even consider it.
Markets will move to the right.
  • #5,138
  • Jun 4, 12:56pm (5 hr ago) Jun 4, 12:56pm (5 hr ago)
Quoting Karri-Kiri
{quote} The striking difference, there, although I appreciate that you're unaware of it yourself, might be that "Hola" is becoming well-known for paying people by the post for favourable forum and review-site recommendations. Even I (with little experience) know a couple of people who were offered such arrangements by them. Things like that can easily give people a mistaken impression of your motivation. My guess is that "Hola" has problems - as some prop firms do, now - getting customers by other, more conventional means.
I just suffered a 400 point spike on WTI with Hola Prime that stopped me out. Utter BS and not one of the other 9 feeds Ive checked has anything even remotely. similar.

Ive complained, so will let everyone know what happens but I wont be trading with them in future on this basis.
  • #5,139
  • Jun 4, 2:50pm (3 hr ago) Jun 4, 2:50pm (3 hr ago)
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wonder How Apex can make money with 90 % off on All accounts
  • #5,140
  • Jun 4, 3:06pm (3 hr ago) Jun 4, 3:06pm (3 hr ago)
Quoting Zuke
{quote} I just suffered a 400 point spike on WTI with Hola Prime that stopped me out. Utter BS and not one of the other 9 feeds Ive checked has anything even remotely. similar. Ive complained, so will let everyone know what happens but I wont be trading with them in future on this basis.
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