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  • #5,061
  • May 20, 2026 5:40pm May 20, 2026 5:40pm
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  • #5,062
  • May 20, 2026 7:39pm May 20, 2026 7:39pm
Wow... I just went through their models — really impressive, interesting, and quite innovative.
What surprises me is that they don’t seem to be getting much attention yet.
If they can prove their trustworthiness, payout consistency, and long-term sustainability over time, they could seriously challenge top-tier firms FTMO and 5%ers.

At the moment, Fundex only offers a two-step program (perhaps a strategic limitation?), but they also provide a MONTHLY salary to funded traders — which is quite unique in the prop space.

FundedHive
Fundex
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  • #5,063
  • May 20, 2026 7:45pm May 20, 2026 7:45pm
No wonder..... they have already become a headache for the scam industry.

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  • #5,064
  • May 20, 2026 10:10pm May 20, 2026 10:10pm
Advice please.

I accidentally earned $1800 on one of my 50 K live accounts and have 20% consistency so now I have to earn 59,000 to get paid. Should I intentionally try to lose money today to make it only $500 gain for the day and do you think they'll catch onto that and penalize me someway.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #5,065
  • May 20, 2026 11:09pm May 20, 2026 11:09pm
Quoting Expo33
Advice please. I accidentally earned $1800 on one of my 50 K live accounts and have 20% consistency so now I have to earn 59,000 to get paid. Should I intentionally try to lose money today to make it only $500 gain for the day and do you think they'll catch onto that and penalize me someway.
I guess..... only the EOD net profit will contribute to the consistency calculation.
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  • #5,066
  • May 20, 2026 11:44pm May 20, 2026 11:44pm
Quoting fxpider
{quote} I guess..... only the EOD net profit will contribute to the consistency calculation.
Thanks. That's what I was thinking. My concern is if anything will look suspicious to them. I mean who makes 1400 knowing the consistency has to be 20% and then keeps trading to make more on the same day. I mean the average trader is an idiot so I guess if they say anything I can claim I'm just not that smart
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Just got home and looked at my trade log and apparently I opened 2 lots ES long by accident instead of 1 lot. It's only 1400 ish not 1800 so I guess I'll try and lose 700-800 bucks tonight. Usually shoot for 500 a day
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  • #5,067
  • May 21, 2026 12:23am May 21, 2026 12:23am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Thanks. That's what I was thinking. My concern is if anything will look suspicious to them. I mean who makes 1400 knowing the consistency has to be 20% and then keeps trading to make more on the same day. I mean the average trader is an idiot so I guess if they say anything I can claim I'm just not that smart . Just got home and looked at my trade log and apparently I opened 2 lots ES long by accident instead of 1 lot. It's only 1400 ish not 1800 so I guess I'll try and lose 700-800 bucks tonight. Usually shoot for 500 a day {image}
Oops, I lost $800. Problem solved
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  • #5,068
  • May 21, 2026 12:57am May 21, 2026 12:57am
Hey everybody, hope the trading week went well. I was just wondering, I know that propfirms are notorious for just terminating accounts or banning people cuz they make a lot of profits and milk the propfirms, how long until they ban you? Like let's say you've consistently gotten x number payout, be that even on a 5k/10k account. When do they start noticing and just drop the hammer?

How is one supposed to scale with them to/after their max allocation? why even have a scaling plan in the first place if that's the case?

Again, I'm not incredibly knowledgeable in this space, and it could just be a very loud minority I've seen across the socials, or they could just be breaching rules they don't know off as well.

Please help a brotha figure it out, insights are much appreciated! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
  • #5,069
  • May 21, 2026 4:55am May 21, 2026 4:55am
Let’s talk about account sizes.

I used to trade 50k accounts, but for the last two months I’ve only been using 25k accounts. The reason is simple: I’ve passed plenty of 50k evals and reached funded accounts, but I rarely make it to payout. 50k accounts require 3k profit just to pass the eval. And then 2100 buffer and ... you basically have to make 7100 to get 2k payout (eval, buffer, withdrawable).

With the Lucid 25k Flex, you only need 1250 profit with a 1000 drawdown to pass eval. Because of the smaller DD room, I switched from MNQ to MES. And I’ve realized MES is easier to trade, both psychologically and technically. Psychologically because the stops are smaller (I try to keep them under $50 max), and technically because MES respects moving averages, trendlines, and supply/demand levels much better.

And on a 25k Flex account, you don’t even need 3000 profit. Passing the eval with 1250 plus making 1500 or more on the funded account is enough for the first payout.

I always take the payout at the first opportunity.

And like I mentioned somewhere before, instead of using influencer promo codes, it’s better to use affiliate company codes to get free accounts.
As of today, I’ve got a manual lockout enabled because I’m taking a smaller payout ($800). After the payout, the funded account DD will be 830, which is enough as long as I don’t tilt and blow the account before the next payout. On top of that, the payout also gives me another free 25k Flex account, so next week I’ll be trading both the payout account and the new one together.

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25k accounts have been working really well for me.
Explain your choice of account size; let’s discuss the topic.

BTW: Lucid -50% now (50 for 25k), Alpha Futures also -50% now (40 for 25k) and TakeProfit Trader also still -50% and has 25k acc-s but I don´t do intraday DD-s.
Markets will move to the right.
  • #5,070
  • May 21, 2026 6:53am May 21, 2026 6:53am
Quoting FraterRedox
Let’s talk about account sizes. I used to trade 50k accounts, but for the last two months I’ve only been using 25k accounts. The reason is simple: I’ve passed plenty of 50k evals and reached funded accounts, but I rarely make it to payout. 50k accounts require 3k profit just to pass the eval. And then 2100 buffer and ... you basically have to make 7100 to get 2k payout (eval, buffer, withdrawable). With the Lucid 25k Flex, you only need 1250 profit with a 1000 drawdown to pass eval. Because of the smaller DD room, I switched from MNQ to MES. And...
Great points, as the number 1 point to look for is ROI required on your max DD. Less variance in obtaining a smaller target is also a very valid point. Same reason I use TPT 25Ks....$1500 target w/$1500 DD vs. 3K w/2K on 50K. On the 50Ks, I look for the 3k w/2500DD and payout prior to needing to clear the buffer.
I also trade MES for the same reasons you have mentioned.
  • #5,071
  • May 21, 2026 8:39am May 21, 2026 8:39am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Oops, I lost $800. Problem solved {image}
Yes, that consistency rule verifies the "we make money when you make money" aspect of the prop model.
So many freaking things to limit you/make you fail....trailing DD, consistency rules, payout caps.
The ROI still works vs. personal funds and I agree most traders are idiots, but for the intelligent among us (most in this forum)....it's like they blatanly tells us.....here are all the ways we're going to attempt to screw you, but you're going to buy our product anyway.
Once again the ROI works, but I fail so many accounts that I should not, yet am able to generate 2-3% consistently M/M, sortino's over 2, with 3 Darwins.
So according to Darwinex, I'm elite, but according to the prop model, I'm not as good.....once again, more proof, props are designed for you to fail.
If only there were a hybrid of Darwinex....I'd even take a 50/50 or even a 40/60 split.
  • #5,072
  • May 21, 2026 9:18am May 21, 2026 9:18am
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  • Edited 12:13pm May 21, 2026 10:29am | Edited 12:13pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, that consistency rule verifies the "we make money when you make money" aspect of the prop model. So many freaking things to limit you/make you fail....trailing DD, consistency rules, payout caps. The ROI still works vs. personal funds and I agree most traders are idiots, but for the intelligent among us (most in this forum)....it's like they blatanly tells us.....here are all the ways we're going to attempt to screw you, but you're going to buy our product anyway. Once again the ROI works, but I fail so many accounts...
Every prop model has the same strategy: Try to find ways to limit the potential for payouts

That's why when you pay for the evaluation on a future's account there's no consistency on the funded account. Why? Because they know 90% of people are going to fail the evaluation and never get to the funded account and if they get to the funded account they're going to be like a puppy peeing on themselves going for the big score because there's no consistency on the live account and then blow up the account.

But, when you buy a direct funded account for a very cheap price, there's a consistency metric because they're not going to let you just buy a cheap live account and then go for the big score all in one or two trades
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  • #5,074
  • Edited 11:56am May 23, 2026 11:08am | Edited 11:56am
Freebie for copying trades locally ;

fxblue is only available for Metatrader , now there is a new kid in town that has both Metatrader and cTrader

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  • #5,075
  • May 23, 2026 2:56pm May 23, 2026 2:56pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Freebie for copying trades locally ; fxblue is only available for Metatrader , now there is a new kid in town that has both Metatrader and cTrader {image} www.copiix.com
i already tried this is good but kinda heavy on cpu xD
  • #5,076
  • May 24, 2026 3:17am May 24, 2026 3:17am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Every prop model has the same strategy: Try to find ways to limit the potential for payouts That's why when you pay for the evaluation on a future's account there's no consistency on the funded account. Why? Because they know 90% of people are going to fail the evaluation and never get to the funded account and if they get to the funded account they're going to be like a puppy peeing on themselves going for the big score because there's no consistency on the live account and then blow up the account. But, when you buy a direct funded account...
I totally agree with you.
In my opinion, from a trader’s perspective, the best prop model is still the classic two-step evaluation. Typically, these models offer around a 10% max loss limit, 4–5% daily drawdown, static Loss limit, and usually no consistency rules, no payout buffer requirements, no payout caps, and no ongoing profit targets once funded.
Yes, it takes a bit longer to get funded compared to direct-funded or one-step models, but once you pass, the level of freedom is hard to compare.
Most direct-funded or one-step models are essentially shortcuts to funding — but they often come with layers of restrictions designed to increase the probability of failure over time.
Personally, I’d rather take the longer route (2 step) through a reputable and established firm. A couple of solid 100K–200K funded accounts are more than enough to seriously scale and operate comfortably.
Success = Practice + Patience + Persistence
  • #5,077
  • May 24, 2026 5:36am May 24, 2026 5:36am
Quoting AK.47
Hey everybody, hope the trading week went well. I was just wondering, I know that propfirms are notorious for just terminating accounts or banning people cuz they make a lot of profits and milk the propfirms, how long until they ban you? Like let's say you've consistently gotten x number payout, be that even on a 5k/10k account. When do they start noticing and just drop the hammer? How is one supposed to scale with them to/after their max allocation? why even have a scaling plan in the first place if that's the case? Again, I'm not incredibly knowledgeable...
My bad if this is a newbie or a stupid question, I just wanted to know what's the max you can go till until propfirms themselves either ban you, because they can't transfer you to a live account like some props can, or terminate you from buying further accounts. Specifically CFDs

Thank you!
  • #5,078
  • May 24, 2026 7:44am May 24, 2026 7:44am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} I totally agree with you. In my opinion, from a trader’s perspective, the best prop model is still the classic two-step evaluation. Typically, these models offer around a 10% max loss limit, 4–5% daily drawdown, static Loss limit, and usually no consistency rules, no payout buffer requirements, no payout caps, and no ongoing profit targets once funded. Yes, it takes a bit longer to get funded compared to direct-funded or one-step models, but once you pass, the level of freedom is hard to compare. Most direct-funded or one-step models are...
Very true....first off, you must look at what your max losses and conditions are ONCE FUNDED. The two step (99%) give you 10% max loss and 5% daily losss STATIC.
The one-step generally gives 6% max and 3% daily trailing....so after passing, that is what you work with.
In addition, one-step is usually looking for 10% target to pass with that 6% trailing DD, so 1.66, the two-step is 13%(8+5), with 10% static DD, so 1.3, worst case 15% (10+5) with 10%, so 1.5. So, in reality, the one-step is NOT EASIER to pass.
Trust me, they did not make the one-spet to have a higher % pass, exactly the opposite, just clever marketing to lure the naive.
Direct- on forex, it's an absolute joke, as most charge a higher fee than your max loss....a 10K with 4% max ($400) for $419 is just a common sense no.
Direct on futures makes a bit more sense, but most require 1.5-2x target to trigger first payout....is it really direct? The ROI still works better than a personal, but not nearly as much as it appears.
  • #5,079
  • May 24, 2026 8:25am May 24, 2026 8:25am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Very true....first off, you must look at what your max losses and conditions are ONCE FUNDED. The two step (99%) give you 10% max loss and 5% daily losss STATIC. The one-step generally gives 6% max and 3% daily trailing....so after passing, that is what you work with. In addition, one-step is usually looking for 10% target to pass with that 6% trailing DD, so 1.66, the two-step is 13%(8+5), with 10% static DD, so 1.3, worst case 15% (10+5) with 10%, so 1.5. So, in reality, the one-step is NOT EASIER to pass. Trust me, they did not make the...
Still, there are a few one-step models in the FX prop space that genuinely stand out because of their unique structures and trader-friendly features. For example:

  1. FTMO:
    → 3% daily DD (static)
    → 10% max DD (EOD trailing, but still among the most generous in the industry)
    → 10% profit target
  2. 5ers Hyper growth:
    → 3% daily DD (EOD trailing, but only results in a soft breach)
    → 6% max DD (static)
    → 10% target for scaling
    → Account doubles with each successful scale-up
  3. FundedHive (Instant Growth)
    → No loss limit
    → 6% target for scaling (among the lowest in the industry)
    → Account doubles at each scale-up stage
    → Scaling fees can be paid directly from profits

Different models suit different trader profiles, but these are definitely among the more innovative ones in the market.

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  • #5,080
  • May 24, 2026 9:42pm May 24, 2026 9:42pm
Guys... please share your experience with Tradesea platform specially regarding slippage, lag, stability, and execution reliability during volatile sessions.

Thanks.
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