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  • #61
  • May 18, 2026 11:53am May 18, 2026 11:53am
Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} I suspect we're likely to agree that chart patterns are just random noise with little predictive value unless other traders are reacting to them in the same way, or else they're snares constructed by bots "painting the tape" to sucker traders in before taking the price the other way. The breakdown in EURUSD below 1.162 I "knew" was going to happen and then rally back up because I see that so often that it's almost conditional for the price to rise. I call it a trap but could be my conspiracy mind lol {image}
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I suspect we're likely to agree that chart patterns are just random noise with little predictive value
Absolutely
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  • #62
  • May 18, 2026 11:55am May 18, 2026 11:55am
Quoting Austinxoxo
{quote} Fair point, but from what I heard, they go back a long way Point and case is, the pettiness will stop. Look around, Trump is tweeting everyday just to sabotage Powell's job lol
That's true. I forgot about them being friends. Good thing for this USD discussion thread

Quoting Austinxoxo
{quote} He doesn't want to open his eyes. He wants to keep his eyes closed, then have scientists tell him what color is on the wall, and he will believe whatever they say
Some people know the words but not the music, but hopefully we can put our talents together and make some money
  • #63
  • May 18, 2026 11:56am May 18, 2026 11:56am
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} {quote} Absolutely
But you disagree that if other traders are respecting a pattern then it's meaningful?
  • #64
  • May 18, 2026 11:59am May 18, 2026 11:59am
Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} That's true. I forgot about them being friends. Good thing for this USD discussion thread {quote} Some people know the words but not the music, but hopefully we can put our talents together and make some money
We are in this industry to make money, so let's do just that!

The streets has it that he'll be sworn in on Friday, not that I have been trading, cuz I haven't, but I will try take a trading holiday for this week and come back next week. Those are major events for the USD, lots of Manual interventions. Today was proof even, especially when coupled with the Iran mess. You are profitable short, then a bbc green candle thrusts you out completely lol
  • #65
  • May 18, 2026 12:07pm May 18, 2026 12:07pm
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} Another jelly-brain. Go investigate your question by yourself with eyes wide open, please
I don't need to investigate. Last time I checked, scientists told me there was only 6 continents in 2008, with pictures attached. Then today they tell me again that there are 7 continents, with the 7th being Antartica, with another picture attached.

Which got me pondering, what about the first "picture"? They swore up and down it is a picture that they took from space, but there was no antartica.... Yet today they show me another "picture" they swore they took from space, and magically there is antartica??? Please

That simply means they lied about being to space, and if they lied about being to space, imagine what more they can achieve today, given the level of technological advancements where even the Orangeman ain't safe
  • #66
  • May 18, 2026 12:08pm May 18, 2026 12:08pm
Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} But you disagree that if other traders are respecting a pattern then it's meaningful?
When a trader looks at pattern {name it}, he can imagine whatever... his decision to open a trade may be conditioned by something else.
If you write a formal logic rule to define a pattern and then code it to isolate the pattern in time-series, then backtest it - it's not different from opening a trade at any price-point at any time in long run.
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  • #67
  • May 18, 2026 12:15pm May 18, 2026 12:15pm
Quoting Austinxoxo
{quote} I don't need to investigate. Last time I checked, scientists told me there was only 6 continents in 2008, with pictures attached. Then today they tell me again that there are 7 continents, with the 7th being Antartica, with another picture attached. Which got me pondering, what about the first "picture"? They swore up and down it is a picture that they took from space, but there was no antartica.... Yet today they show me another "picture" they swore they took from space, and magically there is antartica??? Please That simply means they...
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I don't need to investigate.
Of course you don't lol. just ask questions why vaccine development differs for different diseases, then call the person who answer you blind, then tell them you don;t need to investigate anything. You two are brilliant

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Last time I checked, scientists told me there was only 6 continents in 2008, with pictures attached. Then today they tell me again that there are 7 continents, with the 7th being Antartica, with another picture attached.
that's why covid is caused by 5g

How did they classify Antarctica before? Or it wasn;t in books in your school in Malawi?
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  • #68
  • May 18, 2026 12:17pm May 18, 2026 12:17pm
Quoting Austinxoxo
{quote} This world is made of so much mysteries. Mysteries that transcends basic human comprehension. The fact that the virus itself has versions should already tell you a lot. Look at the facts... That virus literally vanished the minute Biden got to office, now that he is out of office, we hear about another one
The virus vanished because WHO changed the PCR sensitivity guidance as soon as Biden took office.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210121...mes-president/

https://sentinelksmo.org/kdhe-quietl...n-covid-tests/
  • #69
  • May 18, 2026 12:24pm May 18, 2026 12:24pm
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} {quote} Of course you don't lol. just ask questions why vaccine development differs for different diseases, then call the person who answer you blind, then tell them you don;t need to investigate anything. You two are brilliant {quote} that's why covid is caused by 5g
Personally speaking, I am not trying to sway you in any type of way. We all have beliefs. It's something that's permitted to all of us. And we all have the right to defend our beliefs. And I am very fine with that.

But for 1, I'll just like to politely ask you NOT to go out of your way to make a mockery of the two of us, cuz personally, I been very respectful towards you. And 2, all I did was lay the truth in your hand. What you believe in, sure, it is right in some areas. But it is merely a tool used to brainrot all of us.

The fact that something of that danger level LEAKED should already tell you a lot. Think about it, they guard gold. They guard money printing machines. They guard all sorts of things. But none of them managed to leak.

The fact that this leaked, and they have an answer to it IMMEDIATELY after should already tell you that this was a control mechanism. Then they just use science after the fact to cover their track.

Here is my take on Covid 19. They've had the vaccine for a really long time. They leaked it on purpose, then they introduced the vaccine shortly after. Why did they do this? I do not know. But truth of the matter is, they've had the vaccine for a really long time. A standard drug does not take 3 to 6 months to be developed. Let alone a vaccine.
  • #70
  • May 18, 2026 12:29pm May 18, 2026 12:29pm
Quoting Austinxoxo
{quote} Personally speaking, I am not trying to sway you in any type of way. We all have beliefs. It's something that's permitted to all of us. And we all have the right to defend our beliefs. And I am very fine with that. But for 1, I'll just like to politely ask you NOT to go out of your way to make a mockery of the two of us, cuz personally, I been very respectful towards you. And 2, all I did was lay the truth in your hand. What you believe in, sure, it is right in some areas. But it is merely a tool used to brainrot all of us. The fact that...
I adore the level of science and scientific literacy in Malawi and the skill of logical thinking of its residents
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  • #71
  • May 18, 2026 12:35pm May 18, 2026 12:35pm
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} I adore the level of science and scientific literacy in Malawi and the skill of logical thinking of its residents
I am not a Malawi, nor reside there. Forgot to update my details.

But now that I think about it, why should I? Now I feel like I am being targeted because I know too much. This is not the first time I have ranted about this. Trump just proposed a $300 million deal in healthcare to every African countries, with the sole condition that data should be collected from the citizens and shared with the US

I made a comment saying Covid failed to unalive Africans. They want the data to give the next variant of Covid the ability to unalive Africans, since diseases have Versions these days

Covid 1.0 covid 2.0 covid 3.0 etc....
  • #72
  • May 18, 2026 1:55pm May 18, 2026 1:55pm
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} Ridiculing bc it's ridiculous Origin has been shown, you're just immune to evidence. You connected some events without causality and voilà - a sound theory, if someone doesn't accept it -> offer your house in Nebraska lol Your theory was started by China btw, maybe it's your political bias?
I had my theory before I read anything from China. It was actually a comment on zerohedge that steered me that direction. Zerohedge is where conspiracy theories are born, after all lol

Your theory is unsound because it's series of improbable events, the completion of which is essentially impossible. And your theory introduces more questions than it answers.

Your theory:

A virus just happened to pop out of a jungle in china (already improbable)
Highly evolved to attack humans (another layer of improbability)
Even though it came from Asia, it affects Asians less (more improbability)
Perfectly timed to disrupt the election of the most hated president in history (the improbability approaches impossibility)
Ft Detrick's germ lab was shuttered for containment violations at exactly the same time (practically impossible)

A once-in-a-century pandemic (1918 to 2019) perfectly coinciding with the only shutdown in a germ lab since 1943. Just those 2 unrelated events are practically impossible to coincide by chance.

My theory:

Someone with security clearance simply grabbed a virus known to be infectious to humans (whether man-made or not)
Jumped on a plane and released it on at least 3 continents to prevent the easy containment we saw with SARS1 and MERS
Then sat back and watched the show.

Simple, easy, explains everything.

The fact that you stubbornly refuse to admit my theory is at least sensible is evidence of: political bias, personality disorder, cognitive deficiency. If it's not cognitive then it's a deficiency of character, which is much worse in my opinion.

And returning to square one, the trend of republicans presiding over market meltdowns is intact.

Reagan - 1987 crash
Bush - 1990 - 20% decline
Bush Jr - dotcom and housing bust
Trump 1.0 - covid crash
Trump 2.0 - ????

You said if it happens again, it would be suspicious. I say if it doesn't happen again, it would be suspicious. Suddenly now liberal Bezos, Musk and other deep staters are all uncharacteristically buddy buddy with Trump.
  • #73
  • May 18, 2026 2:01pm May 18, 2026 2:01pm
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} I adore the level of science and scientific literacy in Malawi and the skill of logical thinking of its residents
What the heck is that supposed to mean? The remnants of your character just went in the dumpster.
  • #74
  • Edited May 19, 2026 7:57am May 18, 2026 2:29pm | Edited May 19, 2026 7:57am
Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} I had my theory before I read anything from China. It was actually a comment on zerohedge that steered me that direction. Zerohedge is where conspiracy theories are born, after all lol Your theory is unsound because it's series of improbable events, the completion of which is essentially impossible. And your theory introduces more questions than it answers. Your theory: A virus just happened to pop out of a jungle in china (already improbable) Highly evolved to attack humans (another layer of improbability) Even though it came from Asia,...
You're either a clinical idiot or you're deliberately practicing demagoguery.

You'll probably end up hysterical like Snotty Ringelschwanz

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Reagan - 1987 crash
Bush - 1990 - 20% decline
Bush Jr - dotcom and housing bust
Trump 1.0 - covid crash
Carter - stagflation, 21% rates.
Clinton - bond market massacre.
Obama - flash crash
Biden - 2022 bear market and a lot of things
Covid was exogenous shock and unrelated to US domestic cycles

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Your theory is unsound because it's series of improbable events, the completion of which is essentially impossible.
The origin of the virus has been confirmed and its spread is being tracked down to the smallest details.
New viruses are constantly emerging and mostly are of zoonotic origin. However, not all are transmissible to humans, and not all reach pandemic scale.
This has already happened dozens of times, how the heck is this improbable?

On the other hand, you just have a series of events that are not connected by cause and effect. Similarity in timing doesn't mean anything, if you understand the basics of logic.
I can simply counter it with another bs 5G theory just pointing out the time proximity - that's all you have - between the full launch of the technology and the emergence of the virus.
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The fact that you stubbornly refuse to admit that available scientific and factual evidence disprove your 'theory' is at least sensible is evidence of: political bias, personality disorder, cognitive deficiency. If it's not cognitive then it's a deficiency of character, which is much worse in my opinion.

You're just begging to accept your theory lol, otherwise the person is bad or has cognitive dysfunctions (and you started it right away with your veiled super funny joke about the ocean in Nebraska).
Well, I can tell you have cognitive dysfunction if you deny facts in favor of your theory.

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My theory:

Someone with security clearance simply grabbed a virus known to be infectious to humans (whether man-made or not)
Jumped on a plane and released it on at least 3 continents to prevent the easy containment we saw with SARS1 and MERS
Then sat back and watched the show.

Simple, easy, explains everything.

pure imagination, no facts. You're a clown.
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  • #75
  • May 18, 2026 2:41pm May 18, 2026 2:41pm
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Military will never tell you. Trillions dollar Intelligence agencies haven't helped any of us understand anything, when they should be at the forefront of knowledge and national defense. True colors always being shown. Follow the Bill Nye Science!
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  • #76
  • Edited 3:50pm May 18, 2026 2:43pm | Edited 3:50pm
Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} What the heck is that supposed to mean? The remnants of your character just went in the dumpster.
Logic as a formal discipline (syllogisms, fallacy taxonomy, propositional reasoning) was historically embedded in certain Western academic traditions... classical education, Anglo-American analytic philosophy, law school training. It was curricularized. In many other systems, philosophy meant something different: ethics, metaphysics, religious thought, dialectical traditions that prize rhetorical persuasion over formal validity.

The guy presents his fantasies as facts, but you can call me a racist. Which I am not but it is most likely you what are you thinking about
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The fact that something of that danger level LEAKED
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The fact that this leaked, and they have an answer to it IMMEDIATELY after should already tell you that this was a control mechanism.
What would a person familiar with the procedure of logical proof do?
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  • #77
  • May 18, 2026 2:46pm May 18, 2026 2:46pm
Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} What the heck is that supposed to mean? The remnants of your character just went in the dumpster.
Can we agree that Xi Jinping looks like Vinny the Pooh?
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  • #78
  • May 18, 2026 3:58pm May 18, 2026 3:58pm
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} When a trader looks at pattern {name it}, he can imagine whatever... his decision to open a trade may be conditioned by something else. If you write a formal logic rule to define a pattern and then code it to isolate the pattern in time-series, then backtest it - it's not different from opening a trade at any price-point at any time in long run.
Do you agree or disagree, Turtle?
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  • #79
  • Edited 7:49am May 19, 2026 5:14am | Edited 7:49am
Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} What would falsify my theory is an outbreak significantly before June 2019.
Outbreak of what? October-May is a flu season. According to your fantasies it was released in summer 2019 -> you link random shit in nursing home with this.
Given that humans had no antivirals and its R0, why was there no increase in respiratory/infectious diseases cases compared to previous years?

Hint for you, clown:
Go search 全国法定传染病疫情 2017 1 - 2020 2, look for Class C diseases. Please, come back with a plotted time-series

Outbreak started in CN in Nov-Dec, in the US in late Jan (obviously it was circulating before, but why didn't it develop and cause concern like it did in CN, but rather rather, supposedly landed in some random nursing home and that's it lol).
Let me guess: the simplest explanation is "Someone with security clearance simply grabbed a virus known to be infectious to humans" dropped it in CN after he went to visit his grandma in the nursing home with a test tube in his pocket?
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  • #80
  • May 19, 2026 7:58am May 19, 2026 7:58am
Quoting W0lfram
{quote} You're either a clinical idiot or you're deliberately practicing demagoguery.
I have you figured out now: you're an old codger void of neural plasticity and consequently incapable of learning. Once again a simple theory explains everything.

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You'll probably end up hysterical like Snotty Ringelschwanz

Never heard of him. Is that your kin folk?

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Carter - stagflation, 21% rates. Clinton - bond market massacre. Obama - flash crash Biden - 2022 bear market and a lot of things

Carter you have a point but it's before Reagan when the trend began. The rest are LMAO at you. Clinton and Obama were nice steady market gains. Flash crash was nothing. Biden 2022 bear was steady stepping down, not a crash.

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The origin of the virus has been confirmed

Only in your concrete block you call a brain.

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New viruses are constantly emerging and mostly are of zoonotic origin.

Yeah and only 1 pandemic per 100 years. I'd have to live another century to see another one. Oh but it happens all the time LOL

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However, not all are transmissible to humans, and not all reach pandemic scale. This has already happened dozens of times, how the heck is this improbable?

A virus popping out of the jungle in Asia highly equipped to attack non-asians is extremely improbable.

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On the other hand, you just have a series of events that are not connected by cause and effect.

Someone grabs a virus from a lab then flies to 3 continents is not cause and effect? Ok codger.

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Similarity in timing doesn't mean anything, if you understand the basics of logic.

Then compute the odds of a once-in-a-century pandemic coinciding perfectly with once-in-76-year lab leak.

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I can simply counter it with another bs 5G theory just pointing out the time proximity

Sure, and the sun came up that day too, but 5G theory has only correlation and no mechanism. Lots of things correlate. Oops, not as smart as you thought you were.

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The fact that you stubbornly refuse to admit that available scientific and factual evidence disprove your 'theory' is at least sensible is evidence of: political bias, personality disorder, cognitive deficiency.

There is no disproof. You cannot prove the virus did not come from a lab because you cannot prove something did not happen. Logic 101, the first page.

Proving the virus is natural does not prove the lab didn't have natural viruses on the shelf.
Proving the virus is consistent with other viruses found in nature does not prove the other viruses are natural.

The only thing you proved is how very bad at logic you are, codger.
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