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  • #4,581
  • Edited 5:14am Mar 4, 2026 4:59am | Edited 5:14am
Quoting failinforex
They congratulate you and kick you out.
-Curious to see if this continues with the new structure.

Apex 25k (actual 1k) account has a minimum, 5-day profit requirement of $100 (each account must have a profit of at least $100, for a minimum of 5 days, in order to request a payout). Was this not $50 before?

Would be curious to know if other props are doing this. 10% per day seems a bit hypocritical. Maybe I will research it later.
  • #4,582
  • Mar 4, 2026 5:25am Mar 4, 2026 5:25am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Curious to see if this continues with the new structure. Apex 25k (actual 1k) account has a minimum, 5-day profit requirement of $100 (each account must have a profit of at least $100, for a minimum of 5 days, in order to request a payout). Was this not $50 before? Would be curious to know if other props are doing this. 10% per day seems a bit hypocritical. Maybe I will research it later.
it is designed to bust the traders
  • #4,583
  • Mar 4, 2026 6:14am Mar 4, 2026 6:14am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Curious to see if this continues with the new structure. Apex 25k (actual 1k) account has a minimum, 5-day profit requirement of $100 (each account must have a profit of at least $100, for a minimum of 5 days, in order to request a payout). Was this not $50 before? Would be curious to know if other props are doing this. 10% per day seems a bit hypocritical. Maybe I will research it later.
As for the "old" 50K, these are the requirements:
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  • #4,584
  • Mar 4, 2026 6:32am Mar 4, 2026 6:32am
Quoting failinforex
As for the "old" 50K, these are the requirements:
-Thanks. Looks like the new model is 4x that.
  • #4,585
  • Mar 4, 2026 6:34am Mar 4, 2026 6:34am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Curious to see if this continues with the new structure. Apex 25k (actual 1k) account has a minimum, 5-day profit requirement of $100 (each account must have a profit of at least $100, for a minimum of 5 days, in order to request a payout). Was this not $50 before? Would be curious to know if other props are doing this. 10% per day seems a bit hypocritical. Maybe I will research it later.
But if you get "Account Update: Trading Violation note"

After 8 trading days have passed, payout eligibility will be restored only if no additional violations occur and you complete at least 5 qualifying trading days with a minimum profit of $150 per day.
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #4,586
  • Mar 4, 2026 6:50am Mar 4, 2026 6:50am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Thanks. Looks like the new model is 4x that.
Even with the updates, there are still 5-6 firms I'd choose before Apex....the 20 accounts is their ONLY benefit over the others....but I can have 5 each at 4 BETTER firms.
  • #4,587
  • Mar 4, 2026 7:03am Mar 4, 2026 7:03am
Quoting pipmaster77
Even with the updates, there are still 5-6 firms I'd choose before Apex....the 20 accounts is their ONLY benefit over the others....but I can have 5 each at 4 BETTER firms.
-This is what I have concluded, also. It seems that you are exactly right.
  • #4,588
  • Mar 4, 2026 7:13am Mar 4, 2026 7:13am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote}..... there are still 5-6 firms I'd choose before Apex..........but I can have 5 each at 4 BETTER firms.
I’m genuinely curious — which 5–6 firms are you referring to?

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  • #4,589
  • Mar 4, 2026 7:45am Mar 4, 2026 7:45am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Even with the updates, there are still 5-6 firms I'd choose before Apex....the 20 accounts is their ONLY benefit over the others....but I can have 5 each at 4 BETTER firms.
Please mention which firms you would recommend over Apex. Thank you!
  • #4,590
  • Mar 4, 2026 7:55am Mar 4, 2026 7:55am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} I’m genuinely curious — which 5–6 firms are you referring to?
Top 4:
Tradeify
Lucid
My Funded Futures
Take Profi Trader
That will get you 20.....if you want more:
Topstep, even despite recent issues, far better tha Apex
Even cheapies like Blue Guardian, $144 for 3 50Ks, pays $4,050 and payouts become increasingly easier on 2nd, and 3rd+
Just need to look at the offers....target vs. DD, target to payout once you pass, etc
  • #4,591
  • Mar 4, 2026 8:23am Mar 4, 2026 8:23am
WOW APEX is stepping up their game. I had to ban them until I just saw this, almost like they were listening to us this time.
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  • Mar 4, 2026 8:25am Mar 4, 2026 8:25am
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  • #4,593
  • Mar 4, 2026 9:03am Mar 4, 2026 9:03am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Top 4: Tradeify Lucid My Funded Futures Take Profi Trader That will get you 20.....if you want more: Topstep, even despite recent issues, far better tha Apex Even cheapies like Blue Guardian, $144 for 3 50Ks, pays $4,050 and payouts become increasingly easier on 2nd, and 3rd+ Just need to look at the offers....target vs. DD, target to payout once you pass, etc
Thanks! Your number one pick?
  • #4,594
  • Edited Mar 5, 2026 1:49am Mar 4, 2026 11:59am | Edited Mar 5, 2026 1:49am
Quoting Novazor
{quote} it is designed to bust the traders
they gave up the trailing drawdown but have eliminated two key benefits:
- unlimited time: new accs are 30 days only or you bust.
- unlimited upside: before those who survived the trailing drawdown were able to potentially slowly harvest unlimited upside, that cost them hundreds of thousands in some payouts; that doesn't exist anymore
  • #4,595
  • Mar 4, 2026 12:41pm Mar 4, 2026 12:41pm
Quoting josh1111
WOW APEX is stepping up their game. I had to ban them until I just saw this, almost like they were listening to us this time.
-There are some positive changes, but also some negative changes that were quietly rolled out. In addition to that, some negative policies still remain. As mentioned, there are much better options available.
  • #4,596
  • Mar 4, 2026 11:32pm Mar 4, 2026 11:32pm
Anyone aware of a futures prop providing the Nikkei 225 on the Osaka Stock Exchange ( OSE )
  • #4,597
  • Mar 5, 2026 12:34am Mar 5, 2026 12:34am
Quoting DwnUndrTrdr
Anyone aware of a futures prop providing the Nikkei 225 on the Osaka Stock Exchange ( OSE )
No. Most futures prop firms route through US clearing + platforms which mainly support CME products.
But I know that MFFU has NKD, CME Nikkei 225 futures.

For OSE you probably need a direct broker.
Markets will move to the right.
  • #4,598
  • Mar 5, 2026 1:55am Mar 5, 2026 1:55am
Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} No. Most futures prop firms route through US clearing + platforms which mainly support CME products. But I know that MFFU has NKD, CME Nikkei 225 futures. For OSE you probably need a direct broker.
Yeah, thanks mate! What I was thinking but you never know. It looks like just the private account and play the cfd game with those props.
cheers
  • #4,599
  • Mar 5, 2026 2:02am Mar 5, 2026 2:02am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} they gave up the trailing drawdown but have eliminated two key benefits: - unlimited time: new accs are 30 days only or you bust. - unlimited upside: before those who survived the trailing drawdown were able to potentially slowly harvest unlimited upside, that cost them hundreds of thousands in some payouts; that doesn't exist anymore
To be fair, they are saying that they are still working on the unlimited upside part. It says Coming soon in the the FAQ.
  • #4,600
  • Mar 5, 2026 6:00am Mar 5, 2026 6:00am
Quoting DwnUndrTrdr
Anyone aware of a futures prop providing the Nikkei 225 on the Osaka Stock Exchange ( OSE )

I think all the futures prop firms offering Tradovate/NT have NKD futures. They’re $25 per tick with just over $6 commission per round-trip. I trade them at least three nights per week, with a funded (prop firm) account.

NKD futures are traded on CME.

Why do you specifically want OSE ones?
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