FXChant
Singing the World of Forex
- #24
- Aug 22, 2007 10:43am Aug 22, 2007 10:43am
- Joined Mar 2006 | Status: THANK YOU MERLIN,TWEE and FF Team | 4,603 Posts
- #26
- Edited 11:05am Aug 22, 2007 10:58am | Edited 11:05am
- | Commercial User | Joined Aug 2006 | 12,004 Posts
Hey Scott-
Is that a nice way of saying that we forex traders as a whole are the whiniest, cheapest, expect-everything-for-free, largely-uneducated-about-the-instrument-that-we-love-to-trade group out there? Because I would agree with that statement. LOL.
Keep up the good work.
Oh sweet Mods. Get such much slack/bs for doing us all a huge favor here
we need a dedicated I appreciate our MODS thread....
- in fact since this post has nothing to do with the subject here it could be moved into its own thread 
Oh my. This thread has turned pretty hostile 
I would hope that there's some sense of respect and dignity that we can all converse in a way that's not insulting nor demeaning to each other. We gain respect by the way we handle/conduct ourselves and communicate with others, so I hope we can be a little less attacking and try to post our messages/responses more civilly without a lot of sarcasm that can be quite hurtful.
Anyway, I am glad you are resolved with your issue, gidnoa.
I would hope that there's some sense of respect and dignity that we can all converse in a way that's not insulting nor demeaning to each other. We gain respect by the way we handle/conduct ourselves and communicate with others, so I hope we can be a little less attacking and try to post our messages/responses more civilly without a lot of sarcasm that can be quite hurtful.
Anyway, I am glad you are resolved with your issue, gidnoa.
Oh my. This thread has turned pretty hostile
I would hope that there's some sense of respect and dignity that we can all converse in a way that's not insulting nor demeaning to each other. We gain respect by the way we handle/conduct ourselves and communicate with others, so I hope we can be a little less attacking and try to post our messages/responses more civilly without a lot of sarcasm that can be quite hurtful.
Anyway, I am glad you are resolved with your issue, gidnoa.
FXChant
Singing the World of Forex
Justin -
I feel your company as well as MBT have integrity to do the right thing and I feel you guys try to make it a win-win situation, so I think most people when reading a post about a complaint, etc. can judge whether it was dealt with in the right manner.
There is certainly a degree of responsibility that we Customer's have and a certain degree of responsibility that the Broker has, so unless a person is darn-right just unreasonable, there's no disputing that not all situations can be dealt with in the same manner.
I, myself, am satisfied with how EFX/MBT handles issues thus far, and I feel EFX/MBT has shown themselves to be honest and with integrity.
I do see both sides of the fence on things, as I think that's the fairest way in making sure that it's not all one-sided. I'm always for making things a win-win situation, and I do feel that EFX/MBT tries to do the same where possible
I feel your company as well as MBT have integrity to do the right thing and I feel you guys try to make it a win-win situation, so I think most people when reading a post about a complaint, etc. can judge whether it was dealt with in the right manner.
There is certainly a degree of responsibility that we Customer's have and a certain degree of responsibility that the Broker has, so unless a person is darn-right just unreasonable, there's no disputing that not all situations can be dealt with in the same manner.
I, myself, am satisfied with how EFX/MBT handles issues thus far, and I feel EFX/MBT has shown themselves to be honest and with integrity.
I do see both sides of the fence on things, as I think that's the fairest way in making sure that it's not all one-sided. I'm always for making things a win-win situation, and I do feel that EFX/MBT tries to do the same where possible
- #33
- Edited 3:00pm Aug 22, 2007 2:28pm | Edited 3:00pm
Just curious, where is this thread hostile?
) were hostile and sarcastic, then I guess it was just me who read them that way, lol P.S. I hadn't read Justin's post prior to that previous post, as I was composing mine while he must have posted his, so my post wasn't in regards to Justin, lol. I think he handles himself pretty respectfully and with dignity (at least with the posts I've read of his, so far
).
LOL, well that's just my opinion on how I read some of the posts here, so if you don't see that any of the posts (some of them yours, my dear, lol
P.S. I hadn't read Justin's post prior to that previous post, as I was composing mine while he must have posted his, so my post wasn't in regards to Justin, lol. I think he handles himself pretty respectfully and with dignity (at least with the posts I've read of his, so far
FXChant
Singing the World of Forex
Well, I've helped out at a web hosting forum for many years (lol, I have 13,000+ posts there 
, so I'd say that I have a lot of experience with helping in handling issues ) and I try to be rational, reasonable and fair in my judgements and comments to both sides of the argument (but we also joke a lot there and have a lot of fun, as well, so our sarcasm is more due to good humor and wit amongst friends, lol).
I've seen people post there after having received an unfavorable answer from tech support and sometimes we find that a newbie techie has given the customer a wrong answer, thus we do help to resolve the issue if this is the case and usually a higher up Admin will post to confirm that they were given a wrong answer by tech support.
I chose not to become a Mod there when approached, because I would sort of be obligated to be biased in a way, because the forum belongs to the web host company, unlike here where FF isn't affiliated with any particular broker but mainly serves as a means for Forex Traders/Brokers to gather and share/converse/teach/learn/lol, even gripe/etc.
Without forums, many people wouldn't get issues resolved in cases where the techie was wrong and it is frustrating for a customer to be told something is their fault, when in fact, it wasn't. The reverse is also true, where a customer blames the host for their server being down and after some of us test out the access to their site, we can access it with no problems thus we then help them figure out what the problem with their connection might be (usually it's a caching of an old IP address after they've switched servers, or a blocked connecting hub along their Internet connection path or whatnot).
I feel forums are very good in that way, so that people have another means to get their issues double-checked and resolved, as well as a learning/sharing tool for those needing help with just overall development skills, etc.
Whether at my web hosting forums or here at FF, the same hold true for both. Even though you could have handled your issue with EFX, I wouldn't have known then about the busted trade and TTO issue myself, so your sharing it was an asset to me.
It was because of these forums that I chose EFX/MBT to be my Broker and learned alot about ECNs vs dealing desks, etc. If it wasn't for people sharing their experiences (good and bad) many people would be left without any clue of what they are getting into.
Because everyone has their own viewpoints on things, each of us gathers the info presented and make our own decisions based on what seems the most reasonable and sound.
Anyway, I did not see your post as unreasonable and like I said, I gained some value and knowledge from the whole busted trade and TTO issue myself, lol.
I hope we can all contribute productively to each other, as well as just have some good fun sometimes, too (hopefully there's people here with great sense-of-humors, lol)!
Having a friendly and inviting forum community always generates a lot of wonderful energy and vitality, which will then, hopefully, transpose to our trading success!
Good luck to you and hope to bump into you again on the forums
, so I'd say that I have a lot of experience with helping in handling issues ) and I try to be rational, reasonable and fair in my judgements and comments to both sides of the argument (but we also joke a lot there and have a lot of fun, as well, so our sarcasm is more due to good humor and wit amongst friends, lol). I've seen people post there after having received an unfavorable answer from tech support and sometimes we find that a newbie techie has given the customer a wrong answer, thus we do help to resolve the issue if this is the case and usually a higher up Admin will post to confirm that they were given a wrong answer by tech support.
I chose not to become a Mod there when approached, because I would sort of be obligated to be biased in a way, because the forum belongs to the web host company, unlike here where FF isn't affiliated with any particular broker but mainly serves as a means for Forex Traders/Brokers to gather and share/converse/teach/learn/lol, even gripe/etc.
Without forums, many people wouldn't get issues resolved in cases where the techie was wrong and it is frustrating for a customer to be told something is their fault, when in fact, it wasn't. The reverse is also true, where a customer blames the host for their server being down and after some of us test out the access to their site, we can access it with no problems thus we then help them figure out what the problem with their connection might be (usually it's a caching of an old IP address after they've switched servers, or a blocked connecting hub along their Internet connection path or whatnot).
I feel forums are very good in that way, so that people have another means to get their issues double-checked and resolved, as well as a learning/sharing tool for those needing help with just overall development skills, etc.
Whether at my web hosting forums or here at FF, the same hold true for both. Even though you could have handled your issue with EFX, I wouldn't have known then about the busted trade and TTO issue myself, so your sharing it was an asset to me.
It was because of these forums that I chose EFX/MBT to be my Broker and learned alot about ECNs vs dealing desks, etc. If it wasn't for people sharing their experiences (good and bad) many people would be left without any clue of what they are getting into.
Because everyone has their own viewpoints on things, each of us gathers the info presented and make our own decisions based on what seems the most reasonable and sound.
Anyway, I did not see your post as unreasonable and like I said, I gained some value and knowledge from the whole busted trade and TTO issue myself, lol.
I hope we can all contribute productively to each other, as well as just have some good fun sometimes, too (hopefully there's people here with great sense-of-humors, lol)!
Having a friendly and inviting forum community always generates a lot of wonderful energy and vitality, which will then, hopefully, transpose to our trading success!
Good luck to you and hope to bump into you again on the forums
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- Last Post: Aug 23, 2007 7:23am Aug 23, 2007 7:23am
Well, I've helped out at a web hosting forum for many years (lol, I have 13,000+ posts there
I've seen people post there after having received an unfavorable answer from tech support and sometimes we find that a newbie techie has given the customer a wrong answer, thus we do help to resolve the issue if this is the case and usually a higher up Admin will post to confirm that they were given a wrong answer by tech support.
I chose not to become a Mod there when approached, because I would sort of be obligated to be biased in a way, because the forum belongs to the web host company, unlike here where FF isn't affiliated with any particular broker but mainly serves as a means for Forex Traders/Brokers to gather and share/converse/teach/learn/lol, even gripe/etc.
Without forums, many people wouldn't get issues resolved in cases where the techie was wrong and it is frustrating for a customer to be told something is their fault, when in fact, it wasn't. The reverse is also true, where a customer blames the host for their server being down and after some of us test out the access to their site, we can access it with no problems thus we then help them figure out what the problem with their connection might be (usually it's a caching of an old IP address after they've switched servers, or a blocked connecting hub along their Internet connection path or whatnot).
I feel forums are very good in that way, so that people have another means to get their issues double-checked and resolved, as well as a learning/sharing tool for those needing help with just overall development skills, etc.
Whether at my web hosting forums or here at FF, the same hold true for both. Even though you could have handled your issue with EFX, I wouldn't have known then about the busted trade and TTO issue myself, so your sharing it was an asset to me.
It was because of these forums that I chose EFX/MBT to be my Broker and learned alot about ECNs vs dealing desks, etc. If it wasn't for people sharing their experiences (good and bad) many people would be left without any clue of what they are getting into.
Because everyone has their own viewpoints on things, each of us gathers the info presented and make our own decisions based on what seems the most reasonable and sound.
Anyway, I did not see your post as unreasonable and like I said, I gained some value and knowledge from the whole busted trade and TTO issue myself, lol.
I hope we can all contribute productively to each other, as well as just have some good fun sometimes, too (hopefully there's people here with great sense-of-humors, lol)!
Having a friendly and inviting forum community always generates a lot of wonderful energy and vitality, which will then, hopefully, transpose to our trading success!
Good luck to you and hope to bump into you again on the forums
all others - good luck and keep safe out there, no hard feelings i hope...